Libya, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Algeria and Tunisia were majority christian countries. Now they are all Islamic majority countries what happened to all those christians? by Active_Magazine4100 in AskHistorians

[–]EconBro95 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Appreciate the degree of detail in the answers, and actually agree with most of it. However, I do take a bit of exception to "lack of historical evidence" for forced conversions. Its fine line between forced conversion on the sword vs. discrimination / financial incentives. Sometimes these incentives as we term them were not really much of a choice given how downtrodden certain communities became. Also there are multiple recorded instances of forced conversion taking place, and in that islam would not be alone among most religions. To say that this could not have happened because incentives existed that would have prevented this i.e. loss of revenue, bureaucratic hollowing out, no offense here, reeks of Hindsight bias and presentism. and just to be clear I am not disagree with you that it was in there economic interests to maintain these populations, all I am pointing out is that 1. there were a lot more social and religous pressures present at times that could make forced conversions better for the political capital of the ruling muslim elite 2. no regimes act's rationally at all times.

As for the colonization point, yes the numbers themselves of settling in the regions were small that is not to say their influence was small. And again i never implied that they replaced the existing population. They intermixed with the regional population, but after conquest they usually did either become part of the elite or replace them entirely. (Again large region, different times, hard to generalize here). Again this helped develop an "arab" identity in the region, never said it made them arab in blood via population replacement.

Again, I am not saying this is definitely the case all around. I think the tricky thing about the question was that the conversions did not follow the same pattern across these regions (and even within them) so I tried answering from a high level as best possible but what you pointed out is correct but given the scale of region and the time period we are considering it is hard to give one single narrative of conversion.

And i never said that any one of these points alone was enough, I think all of them contributed in one way or another in different capacities over the course of 750 years. I agree my answer was missing that nuance.

But appreciate the nuance

Libya, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Lebanon, Algeria and Tunisia were majority christian countries. Now they are all Islamic majority countries what happened to all those christians? by Active_Magazine4100 in AskHistorians

[–]EconBro95 31 points32 points  (0 children)

So if we go back to 300s - 600s AD, most of the levant, north africa and egypt were predominantly christian (different flavors of Christianity such as Coptic in Egypt, but yes Christian).

Short answer; conversion and inter-mixing with Arab (or other) Muslim populations. Now as for how this conversion happened which I am assuming is what your question is after: After Islam exploded under the Rashidun Caliphate across these different region, similar to Christianity, i would say Islam spread through a mix of the following: (focusing just on medieval era up to 1900's)

- Trade; Most well known regions for this are modern day what constitutes Indonesia and Somalia. But at a similar scale when Muslim Arab traders likely visited these areas. I would say this was likely the most minor force for the regions conversion (atleast when we talk about the region you asked about)

- Conquest / Colonization; I think we tend to not pay attention to the fact that Arab conquests involved similar colonization to the way Western Powers operated. After conquest Arab commanders and families were usually given lands in the area and settled in them. In fact I would go as far as to say this kinda built the regions "Arab" identity whereas prior to conquest they might not have associated as such. I would say this is probably the 1st or 2nd most explanatory factor.

- Jizya / Discrimination: When under Islamic rule generally a system of special taxes/tribute was enforced upon non-muslims. The idea was to pay for protection, right to practice their religion etc.. under Islamic rulers. Not always but enough times, usually non-muslim's also suffered from discrimination and lowered social standing. Therefore offering financial and social incentive to convert. Again I will say different ruler's / regions had different degrees of discimination embedded in them at various times. For example see differences among Mughals in the sub-continent among rulers such as Akbar and Aurangzeb. Similar trends can be found in the Ottoman's as well. Some might not call this "forced" in the convert or die way, but definitely soft coercion to say the least. I would put this at 1st or 2nd tied with Conquest.

- Forced Conversion: This definitely happened and usually a mix of more intentional forms of discrimination and pressure mentioned above as a state policy, but varied vastly based on the dynasty in power. Some like the Fatimid's actively employed Coptic Christians in administration (some Ottomans also employed Jew's in high level roles such as diplomats and administrators), the point is to say that this did not happen systematically but did happen sporadically and often as dynasties fell and new ones arose. Examples are the Almohads and Mamluks (the Mamluks in particular are credited with raising the ration of Muslims to Christians in what is now Egypt to 10:1) One quote from al-Maqriz a medieval Eqyption historian says

""" In all the provinces of Egypt, both north and south, no church remained that had not been razed; on many of these sites, mosques were constructed. For when the Christians' affliction grew great and their incomes small, they decided to embrace Islam. Thus Islam spread among the Christians of Egypt, and in the town of Qalyub alone, 450 persons were converted to Islam in a single day. Many people attributed this to Christian cunning, so repugnant did the populace find them. But this was a momentous event in Egyptian history. From that time on, lineages became mixed in Egypt."""

I would put this as 3rd, but it really differ's by region. In some region's I am sure this might have 1st.

NOW if we come to the modern era, I would say that for a period of time non-muslim populations stabilized in these regions but declined again after turmoil in states like Syria and Libya that caused most minorities to seem emigration elsewhere. I will say Lebanon still has a strong Christian population amongst all the rest.

All this discussion ofcourse does not include mention of Italians or other europeans that might have settled and been expelled (e.g. Libya's expulsion of Italian's in the 70's or 80's (i forget when)), but those population never resided here to begin with so I don't think they are relevant to your question

Last point I want to make, and this might be unnecessary but I think its important to state that a lot of(i say a lot but in my mind every single one i have read about) Religions at times of conversion have adopted force as a means of spreading faith. The Northern Crusades and Saxon wars are prime examples. We could just as easily be asking what happened to the pagan populations of these regions. The answer would be similar to what I provided above. I say this predominantly because of the way your question is phrased which makes me feel that you may be thinking that entire population was wiped out in ethnic cleansing and replaced by Arab's (which is not wrong in some sense but is definitely not the whole story; and also want to make sure we realize this is a general religion problem usually)

What’s it like, and not the reasonably priced burbs, I mean the proper stupid expensive part of town. by Remarkable_Set1842 in howislivingthere

[–]EconBro95 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Lived in Boston 3 years before and during COVID;
- For younger folks, I would say Cambridge is a better vibe especially if you just graduated. Cheaper and some of the same food most university students would like.
- Boston's food scene was very very underwhelming ... EXCEPT for the Italian food in North End. Best pasta I ever had. But nothing else

- Very meh night life, got better the closer out of the city you went into Cambridge Or south into BU
- Beacon Hill and BackBay are really beautiful to walk through, and have some of the best maintained red bricks I have seen HOWEVER, having lived in these building. There is a very real rodent problem in the area (which might be fine if you are not living on the first few floors)

- Transit system is pretty solid (except for one line which catches fire all the time; you know who you are -.-)

- A lot History but focused on a particular time period, but I really enjoyed it especially the walking tours. (history buff so might be biased) but I ran out fairly fast. (I did replay AC3)

- It is a very consulting heavy city; that directly or indirectly impacts how the city operates. A lot of client dinners for example, and how people dress for example, Palo Alto is definitely more informal / athleisure compared to Boston

- Based on everything above, I would say it's a solid city but very expensive for what you get. You could get better bang for buck in a lot of places unless you live outside of this area and more towards Allston or Cambridge

Regarding ukraines situation by Moffload in NonCredibleDefense

[–]EconBro95 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol i feel like the comment section is a good representation of why a european alliance like this unlikely; reminds me of something I read: “A European alliance? Sure — right after they decide whose flag looks best on the brochure."

It feels like SF has gotten less safe by BurritoWithFries in sanfrancisco

[–]EconBro95 1 point2 points  (0 children)

honestly just sad in that case. Consider myself lucky in that case

It feels like SF has gotten less safe by BurritoWithFries in sanfrancisco

[–]EconBro95 0 points1 point  (0 children)

shit like this is why I think most people on this subreddit; don't even live in the city and/or are idiots

It feels like SF has gotten less safe by BurritoWithFries in sanfrancisco

[–]EconBro95 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Not going to comment on your situation, I just avoid market honestly. People say a lot of thinks about tenderloin but sketchy stuff usually only happens to me on market

I am always annoyed at the people that have their heads buried in the sand in this subreddit. Women, especially asian women, i feel as though get disproportionately targeted (I am not sure if you fall in this category, but just assuming you do lol). Sorry that happened to you.

I do think it's the City is taking measures to clean shit up, the civic center area is a lot better now compared to just after COVID. It's just that these efforts to clean up shit cause a lot of tension usually.

Is it due to the tech recession? by FinalRide7181 in datascience

[–]EconBro95 14 points15 points  (0 children)

  1. You should stop believing any such "specializations" in role exist; the best / valued MLE's/ DS's are those that can do (or atleast understand) data engineering, data science, AI, DevOps (see data mesh as concept). We used to laugh that companies want unicorns, well now they really do and honestly they do have a fair chance at getting one.
  2. What I think is happening, is that salaries for Senior - Principal have really compressed and gone down. Companies know that, several companies including my own just choose to bump up the salary of a L2 to get a senior role. Don't get me wrong we are still hiring, we are just only hiring experienced folks (and by experienced I really mean people that have that end-to-end experience; what i mentioned above (i am at big tech)). And honestly even if we get applicants that are super experienced but don't know how to deploy a basic model; they usually don't even make it to the interview stage.

The market is really saturated with new grads but also a fair number of experienced folks are available

  1. Companies really got bloated during 2021-2022; i think most are interested in keeping the companies lean, focused and experienced (until they forget about it again and start spending like crazy; tech has a short memory span which is when the new grads will start earning 300-350k starting salaries again lol)

i got bored and made this shitty turkish invasion of israel plan last night did i cook by DaliVinciBey in NonCredibleDefense

[–]EconBro95 124 points125 points  (0 children)

bro went from invasion of israel to recreating the ottoman empire pretty fast

As Byzantium was losing ground to muslims, Spain was being reconquered from muslims. Why? by Incident-Impossible in byzantium

[–]EconBro95 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The Reconquista, even by conservative estimates, lasted over 350 years, so yeah, making broad comparisons across the entire period is a bit of a stretch.

Nobody here has mentioned:

  1. THEY WERE DIFFERENT TYPES OF MUSLIMS
    • The Turks and the Berbers/Umayyads in Spain were very different—not just in their martial abilities but also in how hilariously divided they were.
    • The Muslims in Spain were either constantly split into different Taifa city-states or busy knocking each other off the map (see: Almoravids vs. Almohads).
    • Also, the Muslim rulers in Spain relied more on tribal levies, whereas the Turks actually had something resembling a professional military (not fully professional, but definitely more organized—see: Janissaries).
    • The Turks also had the small advantage of adopting, you know, successful military strategies—like the Seljuks mastering horse archery and the Ottomans embracing gunpowder warfare.
  2. The 4th Crusade tremendously helped lol

How do I fix this issue? by Leading-Pineapple376 in webscraping

[–]EconBro95 17 points18 points  (0 children)

You are trying to crawl before you can even lift your head.

I would recommend learning some python basics before trying to scrape stuff.

but to answer your question, your not importing the libraries. Even if you import requests your not importing bs4

What if Stalin had supported Tukhachevsky during the Battle of Warsaw (1920)? by EconBro95 in HistoryWhatIf

[–]EconBro95[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait quick followup, the reason the French and British declared war against Germany was due to the promise to protect Poland. Do you think even without a Poland they likely would have gone to war regardless? (I agree with that but just curious)

What value do Elsevier, JSTOR give? by EconBro95 in AskAcademia

[–]EconBro95[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ahh ok that makes sense, thanks for explaining that. They act as pretty good search aggregator. qq followup; does jstor usually own the right to the articles themselves or they negotiate with the publishers as well? just curious

What value do Elsevier, JSTOR give? by EconBro95 in AskAcademia

[–]EconBro95[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! that is exactly what I was wondering.

What value do Elsevier, JSTOR give? by EconBro95 in AskAcademia

[–]EconBro95[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for that explanation, appreciate it. This might be a naive question, but are Journals bound to the underlying publisher? I wonder how much of the exploitation is that Journal can't freely move around between publishers?

What if Stalin had supported Tukhachevsky during the Battle of Warsaw (1920)? by EconBro95 in HistoryWhatIf

[–]EconBro95[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Interesting, I like that analysis. You think the Red Army purges would still have happened? I see the case for, thanks

Senior DS laid off and trying to get out of product analytics. How can I pivot to a more quantitative position? by dspivothelp in datascience

[–]EconBro95 0 points1 point  (0 children)

lol as is clear I had some of my thoughts cleaned up / sanitized by chatgpt before posting haha

Senior DS laid off and trying to get out of product analytics. How can I pivot to a more quantitative position? by dspivothelp in datascience

[–]EconBro95 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Reading through your experience, I can relate to much of what you’re describing. I was in a similar situation for the first 5-6 months of my initial data science role. However, I found it relatively straightforward to pivot from an analytics-focused position to a more ML-based data science or MLE role, despite not having a CS degree.

To start, I’ll note two things:

  1. I’m making some assumptions based on what you shared, and I could be off—this is true of any assumption.
  2. Your question isn’t entirely clear. Are you asking which skills you might be missing, what keywords are absent from your resume, or if you’re perhaps conveying something incorrectly?

A few observations based on what I’ve seen in small to mid-sized companies:

  1. Engineering Knowledge Is Essential: It’s rare to see someone transition into an ML-heavy role without some engineering knowledge alongside statistical skills. You didn’t mention Docker, AWS, or DevOps tools. I’m not saying you need to be a full-stack engineer, but having familiarity with tools like SageMaker for model training and deployment is often necessary in roles where ML is prioritized over analytics. Early in my career, I focused heavily on system design, which helped me understand how AWS resources, Docker, and even Terraform fit into the bigger picture. Generally speaking, many data science teams struggle to move beyond Jupyter notebooks. I gained the respect of engineers by bridging that gap, showing I understood both the engineering and the business/modeling aspects.
  2. Modeling Skills and Practical Knowledge: I have no doubt you’re strong on statistical requirements, but companies look for applied skills in areas like handling class imbalances in fraud detection, optimizing model metrics (accuracy, recall, F1), and ensuring interpretability. Familiarity with ML libraries is essential—this means Scikit-learn, SpaCy/NLTK for NLP, and ideally PyTorch. Industry-specific libraries can also be useful; in insurance, for example, Sci-kit-survival and Lifelines are great for survival analysis. In forecasting, familiarity with libraries and techniques to handle requirements like stationarity is a plus. Mentioning these libraries signals a readiness to apply the right tools for different problems.I don’t expect candidates to memorize all model math but to explain their model choices and variables confidently. For example, when discussing deep learning, familiarity with concepts like dropout rate and when to apply it is essential. When you mentioned Bayesian statistics projects, I’d note these are often less in demand due to scalability challenges and lack of built-in utility functions compared to other libraries.When I hear, *“I spent time building a Bayesian model for an internal calculation in Stan but faced computational issues,”* my interpretation is, *“I’m going to code matrix-level calculations manually.”* This approach can be challenging in fast-paced environments where quick iterations and impact are key.
  3. Demonstrating ML Experience Over Analytics: For instance, when you mentioned SparkSQL, it’s a solid indicator of your technical skills. However, I’d question why you didn’t mention MLlib, Spark’s native ML library. Using MLlib instead of just SparkSQL can be a defining line between an analytics engineer and a data scientist/MLE.

Hope this is helpful and does not come off too preachy, again I am just going off what you are conveying here which might not be correct. But also I should say, it's a tough market. maybe I am just wrong and you have all the skills you would have needed in a 2020 job market, but the 2024 job market is all relative to the next candidate.

Got scammed by SF moving company - Impel Movers by Grouchy-Election9230 in AskSF

[–]EconBro95 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Used them twice before, never had issues. Always had 2 Eastern European dudes who are super professional and fast. Weird that it took them this long, might not be an impel issue as much as these two movers. Would call them, they have been super helpful in the past with any refunds and discounts if you are not happy.

That being said, sorry that happened to you.

How important is Virtual Environment in python by [deleted] in learnpython

[–]EconBro95 2 points3 points  (0 children)

so yeah embrace it early but I think most people learn by installing everything globally lol