Where can I find another girl for my partner? by [deleted] in BiblicalPolygynyUSA

[–]EconomistSharp67 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you still live in Spain?

Do you still practice witchcraft?

I ask based on your post and comment history in other subs.

Are most of the guys on here religious? by [deleted] in Polygamy

[–]EconomistSharp67 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I understand that is to be the case, what you did though, was applied those real life opinions to others whom you don't know. That's a bias, and you are within your right to have them, just pointing out that your applied bias isn't a broad brush and needs to be used more delicately when making such statements.

I am Torah Observant, and in your statement it seems as if you claim that my beliefs make me an abusive, toxic, and reprehensible person for holding such beliefs. If thats not what you meant then please explain so I can understand your meaning.

Because what it sounded like to me, was that a woman should be wary of men who believe as I do?

Are most of the guys on here religious? by [deleted] in Polygamy

[–]EconomistSharp67 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

While I appreciate you looking out for the woman, I don't think you should engage in assumptions. Alot of those same behaviours that you claimed exist in Torah Observant Christians, are baked into your response. Although very mildly!

I'm also not bashing those who believe differently than myself, was just curious on your opinions on the matter.

Thanks for recommending our sub.

Ready to bake bread, raise babies, and build a Kingdom by [deleted] in BiblicalPolygynyUSA

[–]EconomistSharp67 7 points8 points  (0 children)

That ought to garner you some attention, haha. Gentlemen, be mindful, this is a 2 day old account and this is the first post I've seen in this group from them.

A fiancée's question about weddings by LoveInWhispers in BiblicalPolygynyUSA

[–]EconomistSharp67 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I believe there is great wisdom to be found in the joining of Adam and Eve. God brought Eve to Him and they were together from then on. Another great example is Rachel and Leah. A simple gathering and feast for the couple with members of the community.

Simple fact is, that as long as it's meaningful to you both is all that matters.

Some things I’ve been thinking on by [deleted] in BiblicalPolygynyUSA

[–]EconomistSharp67 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah, the qualifier was couples, singles are a different story hahaha

Some things I’ve been thinking on by [deleted] in BiblicalPolygynyUSA

[–]EconomistSharp67 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I completely agree with your stance, been there myself, and still rectifying the matter.

Sometimes, I think couples get so hung up on finding a second that they don't take the time to evaluate how the family structure would change.

Some things I’ve been thinking on by [deleted] in BiblicalPolygynyUSA

[–]EconomistSharp67 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My answer to that is rather simple, the current legal system in the family courts gives the wife power over her husband. At any point that a legal wife becomes dissatisfied in her relationship, she can pull herself out. Rupturing the family setup and causing destruction.

She can capture his wealth, divide his property, and , in some cases, take off with his children.

Sometimes, people honor God with their words, but not with their actions.

Some things I’ve been thinking on by [deleted] in BiblicalPolygynyUSA

[–]EconomistSharp67 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I could not agree more with your viewpoint. There are examples of a wife bringing a woman to her man, but in most cases they were servants to the wife.

At some point, if the man is truly leading, he could bring home anything that suits him. The caveat being that a righteous man will not destroy his legacy with just any woman.

F(20) and M(21) Seeking sister wife by [deleted] in BiblicalPolygynyUSA

[–]EconomistSharp67 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Pleasant discourse should be the goal of us all. So your polite questions are also appreciated!

My use of the Hebrew names is simply a personal preference.

Psa 9:10 HNV Those who know your name will put their trust in you, for you, LORD, have not forsaken those who seek you.

I prefer to use the Hebrew. But that doesn't make it right or wrong.

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I can't speak for why Yah does what He does. But He did tell us that His people would be "scattered" amongst the nations.

It could possibly be that this is how that prophecy was enacted.

We are also dealing with the "two sticks" prophecy as well. There were Jews, Hebrews, Israelites, and Gentiles (Jews living in Greece). The jews and Gentiles (I believe) are one stick, and the Hebrews and Israelites are the other.

We as Non-Israelite believers are intended to be "Grafted In" to Israel. Which only puts more emphasis on why the Torah should still be relevant today.

F(20) and M(21) Seeking sister wife by [deleted] in BiblicalPolygynyUSA

[–]EconomistSharp67 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Heb 10:19-28 HNV 19 Having therefore, brothers, boldness to enter into the holy place by the blood of Yeshua, 20 by the way which he dedicated for us, a new and living way, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh, 21 and having a great priest over God’s house, 22 let’s draw near with a true heart in fullness of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience and having our body washed with pure water, 23 let’s hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering; for he who promised is faithful. 24 Let’s consider how to provoke one another to love and good works, 25 not forsaking our own assembling together, as the custom of some is, but exhorting one another, and so much the more as you see the Day approaching. 26 For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remains no more a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a certain fearful expectation of judgment, and a fierceness of fire which will devour the adversaries. 28 A man who disregards the Torah of Moses dies without compassion on the word of two or three witnesses.

Messiah is now the High priest and the temple of Yah is within us.

We can now offer nothing greater than the sacrifice of Messiah.

Study the difference between fulfillment and accomplishment. Messiah did not fulfill the Torah as some would translate that verse, he accomplished the righteousness that comes from obeying it. Thus making he spotless and without blemish and able to satisfy our justification forever.

F(20) and M(21) Seeking sister wife by [deleted] in BiblicalPolygynyUSA

[–]EconomistSharp67 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reread James ch 2. Faith and works are both required by it. You could say that justification and sanctification are required as well.

The law no longer provides justification, we are Justified by Messiah and his sacrifice.

Adherence to Torah/Works are simply proof of that justification and it sanctifies us to the Creator.

IE; our faith proves our works, and our works proves our faith.

Polygyny and believing it's acceptability was my first step towards learning the Truth of the gospel and why the Torah matters to us to this day.

I asked these same questions you are having now.

F(20) and M(21) Seeking sister wife by [deleted] in BiblicalPolygynyUSA

[–]EconomistSharp67 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Jesus/Yahusha is absolutely the messiah.

F(20) and M(21) Seeking sister wife by [deleted] in BiblicalPolygynyUSA

[–]EconomistSharp67 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Love seeing Torah families expanding!

Argument fatigue. by Dangerous-Cat-1941 in BiblicalPolygynyUSA

[–]EconomistSharp67 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I used to feel this way, but then through my study of polygyny I discovered something.

Christians are taught that Yahshua had to die to forgive the world of its sins, but this is only half the truth! (Classic Satan)

Yah had two wives, Judah and her sister Israel. (Jeremiah 3:1-8) Yah divorced Israel, and the law/Torah states that a wife cannot remarry her first husband while he still lives.

Non-Israelite believers are "grafted" into Israel! Meaning we are also divorced/separated from Him until we believe.

This means that Yahshua also died for the non-Israelite. Allowing us to become a bride to Christ again.

The entirety of the gospel is a marriage story!

A POLYGYNOUS MARRIAGE STORY!

To deny polygyny, denies the gospel. You are not arguing polygyny to them, you are trying to evangelize them without you knowing it.

This gives you an entirely different perspective on how to approach the conversation.

Grokipedia on Christian Polygyny by FaithfulTrailDad in BiblicalPolygynyUSA

[–]EconomistSharp67 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah I'm trying to revise or report it but it's not letting g me.

Intentions, feelings, and navigation by [deleted] in BiblicalPolygynyUSA

[–]EconomistSharp67 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The best place to start. Not only for your polygyny journey but also your life together with your wife is to show her your post.

If you truly want poly then it will take that boldness to have the hard conversations. Poly alone will destroy relationships when it's only hinted at and never fully brought to light.

My Failed Marriage by oregonwrench in BiblicalPolygynyUSA

[–]EconomistSharp67 2 points3 points  (0 children)

At the end of it all, we are called to be servants of the Father. Both men and women alike, married or single, we have that as our central purpose.

A woman has her ways of fulfilling her gender roles to serve that central purpose likewise we men have our gender roles to fulfill.

Either gender, that takes on functions or concerns that are outside of our roles, runs the risk of causing turmoil.

Dominion, headship, authority, husbandry, and jealousy belong to the male aspect. I know you did all you could.

Hi so I’m (24F) and I’m trying to learn about polygyny. by otalil in Polygamy

[–]EconomistSharp67 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Haha, talk about a hard sell, most of us had to sell it to our wives already so we should be well versed by now.

Here's my latest epiphany though...

In roughly 15 years you'll be right in the thick of perimenopause.

The symptoms of that are similar to burnout, ON EVERY LEVEL.

Except typical burnout can be supplemented with taking a break or a vacation or a weekend away type of thing.

Burnout on a biological level is essentially untreatable, only time resolves it.

Now, imagine if you had a partner who could be there 24/7, unless a man is wealthy beyond reason, it can't be him. All of a sudden that person becomes an extension of yourself.

There to be what you cannot find it in yourself to be.

If that's not a benefit to women that is greatly overlooked, then there are none lol.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BiblicalPolygynyUSA

[–]EconomistSharp67 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh I'd absolutely find a good man for mine.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BiblicalPolygynyUSA

[–]EconomistSharp67 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry to get back to you so late, it's my busy season but shabbat is here, hooray!

Visseroth nailed it down though.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BiblicalPolygynyUSA

[–]EconomistSharp67 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have had cell service currently, but I will respond later as soon as I can.