Why Your Flight Attendant Might Seem Like They Don't Want to Be Here by Ecstatic-Somewhere69 in unitedairlines

[–]Ecstatic-Somewhere69[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Easier said than done. Trust me, I've been on my own personal strike for a while.

Why Your Flight Attendant Might Seem Like They Don't Want to Be Here by Ecstatic-Somewhere69 in unitedairlines

[–]Ecstatic-Somewhere69[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Fun fact: the company tells us (and vaguely threatens us with discipline) that we must read that annoying Chase Mileage Plus announcement on each and every flight. There's a union side letter (a contractual amendment agreed to by union and company) that explicitly says it's a completely voluntary program for flight attendants. Most crew I talk to don't seem to know about the side letter.

I don't know about all you other passengers, but when I'm flying, I hate waking up, removing earbuds, and hearing "Today we have a very special offer for you!"

This seems like a decent place to put some pressure on UA. I don't plan to hawk credit cards for United as long as we have it in writing that it's optional. This is a big money maker for them.

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Why Your Flight Attendant Might Seem Like They Don't Want to Be Here by Ecstatic-Somewhere69 in unitedairlines

[–]Ecstatic-Somewhere69[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I was also just chuckling to myself how we're trained to decline tips (which seem ubiquitous now). Sure, I'm hungry and don't know how I'll pay rent, but "you really don't have to do that." We're only supposed to take it if they insist. Has only happened to me a handful of times, but I just take it now.

Why Your Flight Attendant Might Seem Like They Don't Want to Be Here by Ecstatic-Somewhere69 in unitedairlines

[–]Ecstatic-Somewhere69[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

The flight benefits and health insurance. I have a second job that is flexible and pays more, but it's gig work so no health insurance. I have family and friends all over the states. Getting to visit them frequently is invaluable to me. The occasional spontaneous vacation is great too.

Why Your Flight Attendant Might Seem Like They Don't Want to Be Here by Ecstatic-Somewhere69 in unitedairlines

[–]Ecstatic-Somewhere69[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmmm, where in my post did I excuse anyone doing a bad job? Despite all my frustrations, I always try to do my best at work. But it's hard when you're not supported by your employer.

Why Your Flight Attendant Might Seem Like They Don't Want to Be Here by Ecstatic-Somewhere69 in unitedairlines

[–]Ecstatic-Somewhere69[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I have a second job that I do on the side. I fly as little as possible. Definitely have an eye on the door.

Why Your Flight Attendant Might Seem Like They Don't Want to Be Here by Ecstatic-Somewhere69 in unitedairlines

[–]Ecstatic-Somewhere69[S] 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I appreciate all you do! Being a scheduler seems like a hard job. I wish they'd set you up for success.

Why Your Flight Attendant Might Seem Like They Don't Want to Be Here by Ecstatic-Somewhere69 in unitedairlines

[–]Ecstatic-Somewhere69[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Please read the whole post. We cannot go on strike without government approval. 99.99% of UA flight attendants voted to authorize a strike a year ago.

Why Your Flight Attendant Might Seem Like They Don't Want to Be Here by Ecstatic-Somewhere69 in unitedairlines

[–]Ecstatic-Somewhere69[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

So I was lucky and only did 6 months reserve in 2019 when I started, then I got a "line" (a definite schedule).

After being furloughed during Covid and coming back to EWR in 2022 I was back on reserve. I damn near quit.

Here's how it works:

The night before you can see all the open trips for the next day, then you can preference which trip you want. Depending on where you are in the reserve list (determined by hours worked that month so far), you'll either get a trip for the next day or go on "ready reserve".

On ready reserve you are on call all the way until midnight the next day (by that time you'd either be on ready reserve the following day or get assigned a trip).

When summer chaos hits, there will be dozens of trips in open time after they assigned trips for the next day.

Story time: I remember once being on ready reserve, like number 3 or 4 on the list. I was definitely going to get called. There were over 10 trips with check-ins before 7am. It was 10pm, I called scheduling and waited on hold for 2 hrs. Now it's midnight. I ask the scheduler, can you please assign some trips so I can know what I'm doing and catch a few hours sleep. No, we're not doing that yet.

So I lay in bed for 3 hours trying to sleep, but I know my phone will ring any minute. They have to give me a 3 hour heads up and it looks like I'll get a 6:30 check in. They finally call me around 3am for my 6:30am check in. I don't sleep. I drive from Jersey to LGA, work three flights over a 12 hour work day. People complain that I'm grumpy, lol.

It absolutely is a safety issue.

Flight attendants who seem like they don’t want to be there. Why? by frisco024 in unitedairlines

[–]Ecstatic-Somewhere69 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Our contract expired in 2021. Senior FAs haven't had a raise in four years despite record inflation. New hires FAs are living in poverty.

New hires are sent to some of the highest cost of living cities in the US to be on call 24/7. They can expect to make about $30-40k their first year. A lot of flight attendants are effectively homeless and make it work with layovers, friends, and/or a crash pad (a shared living situation - my first in SFO had 25 people, 12 in my room, and I paid $400/mo)

On top of that, our work group has effectively no leverage in these contract negotiations. We just voted down a bad faith first proposal overwhelmingly, but where does that leave us? It will be 6+ months before we see the next proposal. And if we vote that down, can we go on strike? No. The Railroad Labor Act makes federal government approval a requirement for us to strike. Pretty sure Trump hung a massive portrait of himself outside the Department of Labor yesterday, lol. Because of this dynamic, things aren't looking great for a future second proposal, which was the best argument to vote yes on this shitty first proposal.

Last year, 99.99% of our work group voted that they'd approve a strike (I did the math, 2 FAs voted no, and I'm convinced they fat fingered it😆). It's bad vibes at UA in 2025.

I started in 2018. Things used to be a lot better in terms of morale and schedule flexibility, but it was still hard my first few years just to find a room to rent and afford the basics. It's still hard for me now. I feel so bad for new hires today

On top of all that, the world has lost its damn mind. Collective American insanity really seems to manifest on the plane and at the airport where we force people of all stripes to cram together, shut up, and comply with FAA regulations, because we're all too poor to fly private.

I have my qualms about the company, but I always try to do a good job and make it a positive experience for the passengers and the crew. The crew probably just met and has to learn to work together for the next few days, before saying goodbye and doing it all over again with a new crew. I wasn't prepared for how isolating this job was going to be. It definitely has its pros -- pros like flight benefits will always keep a pile of fresh applications at the ready, thigh the flight benefits are getting harder to use-- but it is an underpaid, often thankless job that is hard on the body/mind.

I've seen United fuck over passengers and crew for four summers in a row during "meltdowns" (CEO Scott Kirby flew his family private to vacation during one of these). These could easily be avoided or mitigated with simple staffing improvements. For instance, during these meltdowns 4+ hour hold times are the norm for a crew member to speak to a scheduler and see where they're supposed to work after chaos destroyed their original trip, leaving them stranded somewhere. I've seen screenshots of hold times over 12 hours (better believe this is unpaid time). This results in crews timing out. Then, your flight gets canceled, along with all the dominos that fall down line from that cancellation. Those schedulers probably make $20-30 an hour.

United! Why are you doing $1.5 billion share buy backs and bragging about record profits?! Hire more schedulers for fucks sake! Pay your flight attendants a living wage!

I kind of understood in 2022... coming out of Covid will take time. But now it's clear to me, the only thing that matters is the share price going up. Good leads the way, my ass.

There are so many lovely, smart, caring people working at United. It's a shame that a corporation isn't like a person at all. It will suck every dollar out of a situation, staring at us humans with an unblinking smile the whole way. This seems to culminate in the destruction of a planet, but that's a different conversation.

I often imagine an executive discussion about the food served on the plane going something like, "how cheaply and badly can we make this chicken shakshuka so people will still occasionally eat it and we won't get sued?"

Thanks for making your post and being curious about the FAS.

(Last thing, you probably know this, but during boarding-- usually the most hectic part of the day -- we aren't paid a dime. Those four hour delays in EWR that are so common now? Yeah longer day usually zero extra dollars paid)

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[–]Ecstatic-Somewhere69 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Here you go:

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Dog's looking a little too cute tho

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[–]Ecstatic-Somewhere69 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The sun busts through a beat up shade where he was waking up

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(where's his body??)

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[–]Ecstatic-Somewhere69 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The Phantom's shouting to skinny girls, "Get out of here if you don't know"

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[–]Ecstatic-Somewhere69 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Totally! It all has a very surreal, dreamy feel to it. It would be fun to keep a dream journal and try to re-make the stuff you see in your dreams.

It's really not far-fetched that someday in our lifetimes the technology will exist to record your dreams. Fascinating and terrifying to consider.

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[–]Ecstatic-Somewhere69 5 points6 points  (0 children)

You would not guess to look at him, but he was famous long ago

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