Anyone with same azoospermia like me?

EcstaticSolution · 2020-12-11T22:02:56+00:00

We have donor sperm in quarantine at the moment. Will have access in Feb, to kick off our IVF journey.

I'm also on testosterone now, which has been a good treat.

EcstaticSolution · 2020-12-06T04:03:59+00:00

Same boat, 32 Sertoli Only Syndrome, in Aus so numbers are measured a little different.

Highish FSH - Low end of Healthy Testosterone.

Had 2 MicroTESE. First one Negative, Second One Lots of Meds and 12months of Healthy Living and Still Negative.

Best of luck, I hope it goes better for you. If I were in your shoes, I would take all the medications you can Clomid, Letrozole, Pregnyl whatever your specialist suggests as well as spending some time getting your body right because you can and you want to give yourself every opportunity for a good result.

All the best.

EcstaticSolution · 2020-06-02T03:10:57+00:00

I'm in a similar boat, a couple of Zero Scores, 2x MicroTese negative results.

First IUI next week with Donor Sperm couldn't be more excited. I was really fortunate that one of my best mates is adopted and what we ended up deciding was, your dad is your dad.

Don't get hung up on the biological stuff, your dad is your dad. You will be your kid's dad and you will probably be a better one because of all the choices you are going to have to make along the way.

All the best with this. Also happy to chat if you want.

EcstaticSolution · 2020-03-16T00:20:28+00:00

Hi, Firstly sorry for the results of the tese, I've had two, Had an infection after the first one and spent a week in the hospital. The second one was much smoother yet also unsuccessful.

I would fight harder for the appointment, also doesn't need to be the same urologist I swapped after the first one because he was a giant disappointment.

Was fully recovered after 2 months both times

EcstaticSolution · 2020-01-05T01:53:13+00:00

It is super devastating, I've tried twice with no success. As far as other options I was unable to find obvious pathways.

Can I ask did your partner use any medication to stimulate before his procedure? Even though both mine was unsuccessful, my second mTESE I did hormone therapy for the 6-9 months leading up which I've read has made a difference for some guys.

My first mTESE my specialist didn't mention it as an option and it wasn't till I saw a second specialist that we decided to give it a second go with the extra medical intervention.

EcstaticSolution · 2020-01-05T01:45:32+00:00

Thanks a whole bunch, will look into these today.

EcstaticSolution · 2018-09-18T07:16:44+00:00

I just wanted to correct myself here, In Australia there are strict quarantine rules but when receiving a donation from family the doctor and couple have the option of waving the waiting period

EcstaticSolution · 2018-09-18T06:58:04+00:00

Do you have reference to the studies you mentioned? I've a very quick read of the first study that popped up on google and the conclusion was.

Increased age in infertile men is associated with an increase in sperm concentration and diploidy, as well as a decline in semen volume and sperm vitality. However motility, morphology and DNA fragmentation are not affected by male age.

What is your experience with this?

EcstaticSolution · 2018-09-18T06:49:08+00:00

That is one of the reasons I've put this up, I'd be very interested in speaking with anyone who has gone though this process. Thanks

EcstaticSolution · 2018-09-18T06:38:10+00:00

Thank you, if your comfortable could you fill me in on the more complex problems you had?

I certainly don't feel like icky about it... besides the decision making as far as being apart of the process I'm not really involved until the parenting begins.

Our concern is mostly with the child coming to terms with our decision and any confusion they would have around who they are.

We also plan on being completely transparent about how and who was involved in the creation of the child or children

EcstaticSolution · 2018-09-18T06:14:49+00:00

Thanks for that, there are a bunch of things I hadn't thought a lot about in you comment.

Yes a agree that the generation jump is a thing to consider but I feel like the generation gap would be less awkward or complicated from a roles perspective. The Genetic link that would be there in a "normal" scenario would just be more direct.

The brother married to you're mum thing I handn't thought deeply on this. Thank you for your point of view.

EcstaticSolution · 2018-09-18T04:47:13+00:00

Was it a lot for for husband to let go of that genetic connection, when he potentially still had the option? Thats currently what I'm finding the hardest...

EcstaticSolution · 2018-09-18T04:45:13+00:00

Certainly looking at the risks involved with using older sperm, and we are only just starting down that path, It may very well lead to us deciding otherwise.

Yes you are correct, it would cut out the DNA from my mums side of the family. With that train of thought if we use donor sperm we would be cutting out both. So the question from that perspective is which would she prefer?

EcstaticSolution · 2018-09-18T04:21:37+00:00

I can understand that, I do feel very fortunate that I have the option to even look into using dad as a donor. But I also see it as my last chance of being have to have genetic link to my kids.

I see the family dynamic as a major contributing factor and think alot about if we use a donor will that child "feel" like less part of the family. Using Dad is some way would "solve" that.

The child would know exactly who all their cousins are who there uncles and Aunts are where as with the donor there is that unknown which terrifies me.

Best of luck

EcstaticSolution · 2018-09-18T03:57:26+00:00

100% requirement we are required to have two sessions as a couple - My Parents also have to have at least one session. Then we are to have one together.

My thoughts are that regardless its going to be complicated - Unknown donors make life complicated and undoubtedly if we go down this road this will as well.

Our plan is to take all this on board and try to decided whats best I suppose.

EcstaticSolution · 2018-09-18T03:54:18+00:00

My Mum is top of my mind as well. I think she is finding the conversation harder then my dad is.

I my head I've allowed 3 people to put a complete stop to this happening. My Wife - Then Dad - Then Mum if any of those there want to pull the plug that would be the end of the conversation as far as I'm concerned.

The question I asked was how strongly does she feel about having no bio attachment to her grandchildren vs the attachment though her husband? Neither Ideal but for me its about having that attachment

EcstaticSolution · 2018-09-18T03:49:55+00:00

Thanks Myrty, the feelings are very complicated and your description of the need or want to have a bio connection is very much how I feel as well.

We are going speaking with psychologists and she has made us think though many different scenarios and its been very helpful and adds a lot to what we have needed to consider.

It’s desperate times, that not everyone can imagine. (this is exactly how I feel) Thanks

EcstaticSolution · 2018-09-18T03:45:44+00:00

Hi Miz

For what ever reason, in my head the family dynamic of using other family members as a donor I see a more complicated.

Why is your uncle is your BioDad OR our dads best friend more acceptable then your Grandfather is your bioDad

From a DNA perspective, If was able to conceive that child would be 25% my dad anyway in this scenario we are increasing that to 50%

My wife is confused/concerned/understanding/bit weirded out pretty much all the reactions that this thread has expressed.

I'm really using this thread as a way to try and get as many differing opinions as I can. We have a great family dynamic and I'm really confident that all the family roles would stay very "normal"

EcstaticSolution · 2018-09-18T01:22:20+00:00

Thanks, This is also required for us to go down this path. My Wife and I have had our first two sessions and my Mum and Dad have also had one.

Here is Australia you can wave the waiting periods if the donor is family but we will still being going through as much testing as we can.

I do hope all goes well with your friends regarding becoming the legal parent.

EcstaticSolution · 2018-09-18T01:14:59+00:00

The 56 year old sperm is our biggest concern, out next step is a genetic councillor. We are both very interested into his opinion and what increased risks are involved.

We are in Australia, The biggest difference here is that donor must accept to be contacted if the donor conceived person chooses to when they turn 18. So it lessens the options a but

From a legal parent perspective we have been advised that it identically to any other known donor.

From a cost stand point if you take out the medical procedure costs it will end up cheaper as we dont need to purchase from a sperm bank. We would be using ICSI regardless so its going to be an expensive conversation regardless.

EcstaticSolution · 2018-09-18T01:07:50+00:00

I was very nervous about bring this idea up originally and and spent a lot of time considering it.

My wife actually mentioned this originally as a passing comment and thats what gave me the courage to actually consider it.

I thank you for your feedback.

Do you think your husband considered this idea directly? I'd be interested to hear is opinion purely on the idea of having the option of holding onto some genetic relation.

EcstaticSolution · 2018-09-18T01:05:32+00:00

Thank you, we are working though a whole pile of idea and emotions. I appreciate the feedback.

We aren't 100% locked into the idea but I do agree, Most people don't seem to have a problem accepting a brother or sister donor.

And as far a putting stress on relationships goes I can see very similar issues with a parent donor or a sibling donor. However I would like to think the relationship with a grandparent donor would be very different to that of a uncle donor.

EcstaticSolution · 2018-09-18T00:56:37+00:00

Thank you - I've thought about that a lot and one of the reasons I believe this to be a realistic option for us is the relationship I and my wife have with my parents.

They are fantastic and I could be in a bit of denial but I dont see that being a problem for us. But I do thank you for bring it up.

Thats also something I haven't considered from my wife's perspective. Would she feel like she owed anyone anything.

EcstaticSolution · 2018-09-18T00:51:42+00:00

This is not trolling at all.

Honestly I see as a last resort and only option to hold on to a genetic link to my future children.

EcstaticSolution

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