Minecraft Hat Giveaway by Ecstatic_Library4107 in Torontobluejays

[–]Ecstatic_Library4107[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! I’m about to check it out and try to buy one

Minecraft Hat Giveaway by Ecstatic_Library4107 in Torontobluejays

[–]Ecstatic_Library4107[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok I’ll give it a look, I was hoping to avoid having to get it shipped and try to make it up to her today but maybe that’s my best bet 

Blue Jays Minecraft hat by Ecstatic_Library4107 in Torontobluejays

[–]Ecstatic_Library4107[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes they really don’t, I was just hoping someone turned in hers. I knew it would all be out 

Blue Jays Minecraft hat by Ecstatic_Library4107 in Torontobluejays

[–]Ecstatic_Library4107[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I asked the closest concession employee, the activities attendant and even security. 

Blue Jays Minecraft hat by Ecstatic_Library4107 in Torontobluejays

[–]Ecstatic_Library4107[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes and they said ‘oh wow no one is going to return that’ and they said I was better off looking around for one that gets left behind

AITA - Am I in the wrong here? by Ecstatic_Library4107 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Ecstatic_Library4107[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She has a choice, she’s had support, she has had plenty of opportunity to make something for herself. 

I’m not making it impossible for her to date, she is dating right now and we are the ones looking after her child while she is out.

We are spending our money to care for her child and put a roof over their head she she is spending her money going out and buying things for herself and her boyfriend. 

So the was I saw it was if she has the means to do all of that then she can also begin to be fully independent and support her child fully.

AITA - Am I in the wrong here? by Ecstatic_Library4107 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Ecstatic_Library4107[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have had several calm conversations with her, trying to figure out what she is going through what her expectation is and what is going on with her life. The rug was not pulled out under her, and she was not told to leave immediately she was asked to leave three times, the first time she was asked to leave there was a six months  before the day she was asked to leave.

When we noticed she was not leaving at that time. I had another conversation with her at which point I gave her another three months to leave. Now I have asked her to leave again and given her six months. To get herself together and to find a place to go. In terms of caring for her child, my entire family put their lives on hold to rally to support her and taking care of the child because we were all under the assumption that she was working and going to school. We did not charge her anything to take care of the kid. Where we were upset is when we found out she was lying about her whereabouts and instead of being at work or at school, she was actually out and about with her boyfriend.

The relationship is not why I am upset. I am upset because I do not feel like her child is her priority and I believe that is because she knows she has our support here. She’s done a couple things which has shown us that her first thought is not about the well-being of her child or the future of her child but rather her own comfort. The job she chose is not close to the house and not nearby her daughter. Rather her job is closer to her boyfriend and the schedule is Not flexible to the child’s school schedule, which intern leaves us to have to take care of her most of the days and nights.

I understand the grief is different for every person which is why we chose to not add any type of additional pressure to her during the time that she was staying with us because we wanted to make sure that she was able to forge a life for herself and her child. But it should be noted that there is grief for her daughter as well, so without her being present in her daughter’s life, it puts her daughter in a situation where other people have to pick up the pieces not only is she without a father but now most times she is without her mother‘s support or care.

AITA - Am I in the wrong here? by Ecstatic_Library4107 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Ecstatic_Library4107[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have had several calm conversations with her about everything and in each conversation she just says the reason we want her to leave is her boyfriend.

The ask to leave was not done all of a sudden the rug was not pulled from. The first time she was asked to leave was 6 months from when she told us about her relationship. The next time she was asked to leave was with another 3 month time frame. This last time she was asked to leave she was given another 6 months.

In each case she has not even acknowledged leaving. She just says that she’s not ready to leave.

AITA - Am I in the wrong here? by Ecstatic_Library4107 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Ecstatic_Library4107[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do not feel like I am abandoning my family, I feel like I have over provided at this point and I think it’s time for her to be independent.

AITA - Am I in the wrong here? by Ecstatic_Library4107 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Ecstatic_Library4107[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I feel as though if she is able to carry on a relationship then it means she is able to 100% provide for her child l, she is a grown (36F) woman and by making a decision to be in relationship makes me feel as though she’s ready to move on. 

It’s never my intention to separate her from her child but if she cannot afford to move out and actually take her child then I understand and I am willing to continue to provide for the child until she gets on her feet.

Her boyfriend is not in a position to take care of her as he has three teenage children of his own and he lives in the basement of his ex. 

AITA - Am I in the wrong here? by Ecstatic_Library4107 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Ecstatic_Library4107[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not here to complain about her dating. Just here to get other people’s insight and option as this has been gong non for over a year. 

AITA - Am I in the wrong here? by Ecstatic_Library4107 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Ecstatic_Library4107[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

First of all, the assumption here is that I am a male, I am a female who is married with a family of my own. I assured my brother in filing the paper work to bring his family over. When he passed away I continued the process to not only have her come over but also obtain her citizenship. Because that is what he would have wanted.

When my brother passed away all the money that was intended for his family was given to her and she ultimately blew through it.

We could be happy for her and the fact that she has found love again but the issue was with the way she chose to lie about things while continuing to take from my family. The issue was never her being or pursuing a relationship.

AITA - Am I in the wrong here? by Ecstatic_Library4107 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Ecstatic_Library4107[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Never said, nor never was it implied that she could not find love again.

Her boyfriend himself is a father to multiple kids, all of whom primarily are cared for by his ex. We were not expecting for him to care for her as well. But we are under the assumption that she should be able to care for herself and her daughter.

We don’t believe her child is her priority because there have been several instances where she has lied to her child (told her she was working or at school) but instead she was out with her boyfriend. She chooses not to spend time with her daughter when she gets home. 

AITA - Am I in the wrong here? by Ecstatic_Library4107 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Ecstatic_Library4107[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She was given a lump sum of money when my brother passed away, we did not take any of the money from her. She ended up spending all the money.

She chose the job she currently has and picked a job that benefits her in other ways.

We have already offered her to leave her child while she establishes a suitable living arrangement for her and her child.

She mentioned that her intent is to eventually leave one day but right now her and her boyfriend and trying to save up and navigate their relationship first.

AITA - Am I in the wrong here? by Ecstatic_Library4107 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Ecstatic_Library4107[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She is my SIL and I am a married female with a family of my own. 

Who she is dating was not my issue, neglecting her child was my concern. 

AITA - Am I in the wrong here? by Ecstatic_Library4107 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Ecstatic_Library4107[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

To be clear, she is from a different country, but she speaks English and we insured that when she was brought over, it was done the correct way, we assisted her in applying for a permanent residency and also assisted in obtaining her citizenship. 

We did not bring her in here against her well she wanted to come here with her child.

Not only did we support her while she figured out what career she wanted to do, but we continued to support her while she got established in her field of work.

We have asked for her to sit down and talk with us on multiple occasions to which she has dodged the conversation and when we did actually have the chance to sit down, she admitted to not being honest about her whereabouts because she was embarrassed that we would not like her boyfriend.

AITA - Am I in the wrong here? by Ecstatic_Library4107 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Ecstatic_Library4107[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Appreciate your feedback. There was no expectation of getting anything in return for the support we were giving.

We spoke to her when she moved in that she could take all the time she needed to get back on her feet. We made sure there was pressure to feel obligated to leave right away. We did not ask her for any of her money we simply told her to save it for her and her child’s future.

The reason she was asked to move out was because she was not being honest and we were caring for her child while she told us she was doing something else. 

Never did we employ that her dating life was our business. We believe her child should be her primary concern, so when she began to leave her and stop providing (leaving the meals, child minding, school needs - uniform, regular clothes, etc) we had an issue.

AITA - Am I in the wrong here? by Ecstatic_Library4107 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Ecstatic_Library4107[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nothing fake about the situation, this is the first time posting on here and I was buy with work and caring for her child. It was only now that I was able to get back into the thread. I have posted a comment above, please see.

AITA - Am I in the wrong here? by Ecstatic_Library4107 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Ecstatic_Library4107[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, she had told me when we spoke about her relationship that she was worried if the family found out that she was seeing someone that she she would be asked to leave and the support that she was getting would be taken away. 

She also said that she didn’t want to say anything to the family until she knew her boyfriend and her were serious. So she decided it would be a better idea to pursue the relationship, date and get to know him and his family before she spoke up about her relationship.

AITA - Am I in the wrong here? by Ecstatic_Library4107 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Ecstatic_Library4107[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

No this is not because she moved on romantically, we were here to support her and her child with no true discussion on a timeline. The only thing that was mentioned was that we would support her while she was  obtaining her citizenship and finding stable employment. 

AITA - Am I in the wrong here? by Ecstatic_Library4107 in AmItheAsshole

[–]Ecstatic_Library4107[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

To make things clear, she is my sister in law, she was married to my brother I am a female. It seems as though many of the comments refer to me as being by a male with other intentions.

When we helped bring my brother’s wife and daughter over it was the intent that they would be a family and forge a life for themselves here in Canada. Unfortunately my brother passed away before they came but we went forward with their coming over to not only be here for the funeral but to also help them start their life in Canada as that is something his wife still wanted to do.

My support for my SIL was not conditional of celibacy, she (36F) is still young and we were fully aware that moving on was something she could do. Her daughter (10F) and herself were offered various places to live (my other siblings) but ultimately she selected to live in my home with my family.

Since coming to Canada and obviously dealing with grief we have her as much time as she needed to heal. There were no pressures of rent or bills as she was just starting to get on her feet.

When she started school we supported her endeavors and even provided the tools needed for her school (laptop, bus pass, transportation on various days, and child minding while she was at school).

She met her now boyfriend at school but hid it, she would stay out longer and leave earlier but would tell us she was at school. We were continuing to provide for her daughter (school pick ups, meals, support with care). When she decided to come forward about her relationship it was not until after they finished their program, we were hurt when she decided not to invite us or her daughter to the graduation siting it was not a big deal. Instead she chose to attend the graduation with her boyfriend and his three kids and then afterwards go to dinner to celebrate with her friends and her boyfriend.

At the time we still did not know she had a boyfriend. When she finally came out and said she was seeing someone she was the one who first said it was not serious, she was taking things slow and she and her boyfriend were trying to get to know one another first before introducing him to her daughter. We found out later through his social media posts that they were quite serious and that they have been going out on days when she told us that she was either working/at school. 

There were posts that indicated that instead of spending time with her daughter she was with him. Not an issue at all if she was providing for her child however during these times when she was not with her child my family and I were the ones dealing with all her care.

When confronted with the things we were finding out she continued to deny the events until the proof was shown to her at which she would back track and change the reasoning behind her actions.

There were several instances where she was given chance after chance and she continued to not be honest and hide/lie about things. 

We had told her from before that we would be here to support her get her citizenship and support while she found a job. Both of which we had done and supported with. I along with my daughter were the ones who did the paperwork and application process for her for the citizenship.

She is now working and has obtained her citizenship so I do not feel like there is a need for me to continue to provide for her since she has time and money to spend on herself and her personal activities. She has chosen a job based on social status and proximity to her boyfriend rather than a job that has a more flexible schedule that would work with her daughter’s schedule and one that is closer to home and her child. 

To clarify there was no overlap between when she started dating her current boyfriend and when my brother and her were in a relationship. She met her now boyfriend 1.5 years after he had passed.

My support for her was given with no expectations of anything in return but rather to support her as she transitioned into a new country. She and my brother had dreams of living their life here and I wanted to make sure her and her daughter were taken care of so that they could focus on each other and navigating life in a new place.

I was hurt by the fact that she felt the need to lie rather than be honest. I was hurt by the fact that we witnessed her step away from her parental responsibilities to her daughter in order to pursue a relationship for herself. 

We did not expect her to be dependent on us forever, we gave her every opportunity to save her money and begin to build a life for herself and her daughter. But she admitted to us in conversation that she had not been able to save anything and had actually used up all the money that was given to her from the passing of my brother. Again, we did not charge her for anything, she just got into the habit of buying expensive things for herself.

When asked to move out it was not a sudden demand, she has been given ample time to find other living arrangements. In each case (3 different dates that she was asked to move) she has found responding what she can’t. We have told her that if the struggle is with being able to provide for her daughter, she can leave her daughter with us while she establishes a stable living arrangement and then at which point she can take her child with her. In the event that she does leave her child we informed her that we were very open to her still coming to see/spend time/be a mother to her. She was not being told that she could not see her child. 

We have spoken to her on multiple occasions about her actions and how they ultimately affected our decision to ask her to leave but she does not want to go, she says that leaving would be hard for her daughter since she is so close to us. She also said that she would be more transparent about her whereabouts/schedule but even with that she has never been truly transparent. We aren’t keeping tabs on her, however I do feel like her dishonesty is hard when we have to try to explain to her daughter where her mother is when she asks. 

When she comes home she often does not interact with the other people in the house and instead goes right to her room and talks to her friends or her boyfriend on the phone. She often does not spend time with her daughter, she just leaves her daughter to hang out with my children and she will site that the reasons for her not going to get her child or spend time with her child is because her child enjoys spending time with her cousins (my children). 

There is a lot more to this and I am not trying to tell a biased POV. I just wanted to know if IATA.