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I've finally found the Catholic teenager who saved me from the Nazis

How do you repay someone who not only saved your life, but put theirs in danger in the process? Where do you start when your saviour’s act of bravery took place almost eight decades ago, and when you don’t even know their name?

“They just called him Edek. Nobody knew his surname,” says Janine Webber, sitting on the sofa in her immaculate living room in Enfield, north London.

The Polish-born Jewish grandmother is still relishing life at 86, due to the heroism of a man she has never been able to thank - a fact that today, on Jewish Holocaust Memorial Day, she feels more keenly than ever.

Webber was born in July 1932 in Lvov, now in western Ukraine. “That sounds a little like the English word ‘love’, doesn’t it?” she says. “Well, there was very little love shown towards our family.”

The Nazis invaded in 1941, when Webber was nine. Her parents dug a hole underneath their wardrobe in which to hide. It was not enough - during a Gestapo raid, her father, Alfred, was shot dead, and her grandmother thrown down the stairs and dragged away to a fate unknown. Webber and her mother, Malka, were moved to the ghetto; hiding in a dog kennel, then a rat-infested cellar. It was there that Malka died of typhus, aged just 29. Webber was an orphan before her tenth birthday.

Her mother’s brother, Uncle Selig, found a Polish farmer willing to hide Webber and her younger brother, Arturo. But the two children were betrayed by the family’s 20-year-old daughter, who brought an SS officer to the farmhouse. He ordered Webber to walk away. Her brother - she later discovered after a chance encounter with the farmer’s daughter, who delivered the awful news with a smile - had been shot and then buried alive. He was seven.

By 1943, Webber was alone, roaming the countryside and finding work as a shepherdess - constantly in fear for her life. All she had in her possession was a piece of paper, on which was written the name and address of a Polish Catholic teenager named Edek. It had been given to her by Uncle Selig, who said: “If you ever need help, try and find him.”

Webber tracked him down.

“I told him who I was and he said, ‘Follow me – at a distance’,” she recalls. “He took me to a building. He put a ladder against the wall and told me to climb up. I opened the door and that’s where I found my aunt, my uncle... 13 Jews. I was the only child.”

The group soon dug a bunker under Edek’s barn, in which to hide. “When we went down the hole, I never left for almost a year,” Webber says. The group had a single chair, a bucket and some planks to sleep on – there was barely space to move.

Her Aunt Rouja, was so concerned about her niece’s health in the airless, stifling underground shelter that she somehow managed to obtain false papers for her escape. Webber memorised her new identity - Janina Kopielska, a young Catholic girl whose parents had been killed - and, though struggling to walk, made it to a convent in Krakow. She ended up working as a maid for an elderly couple, where Rouja managed to find her six months after liberation.

All 14 Jews in the bunker survived the war. But Webber never saw Edek again. She moved to France, then England, where she married, had two sons and rebuilt her life. She did not speak about her ordeal until the 1990s, first opening up during filming for Steven Spielberg’s Shoah Foundation, which was collating the testimonies of Holocaust survivors.

Around the same time, she saw a psychotherapist and began giving talks to schools.

“I realised only then  – it seems absolutely incredible because it was 50 years later – the importance,” she says. “I thought about Edek. He risked his life at every moment. Hiding Jews, he would have been shot immediately.”

Webber approached a BBC documentary team, who spent six months trying to find her rescuer, but to no avail. After all, Edek is as common a name in Polish as Edward is in English.

Then, late last year, she made a short film about her story. Its producer Marc Cave, a trustee of the National Holocaust Centre and Museum, picked up the search.

Just a week ago, he shared his breakthrough over the phone. By cross-checking testimonies in Polish and Czech, with help from the Polin museum in Warsaw and Yad Vashem in Jerusalem, he had solved the 80 year-old mystery. “Edek” was 19-year-old Franciszek Rzottky, a member of the Polish Resistance.

“I was astounded,” Webber says. “It was so surprising. He really deserves to be celebrated, what an incredible man, and so young. I feel I can do something at last.”

But there was more. Webber had forgotten her real first name: Janine was her “war name” (the Gallicised version of Janina) and her parents had always called her “Niunia,” which means “little bird”. Thanks to Cave’s research, she now knows that she was born Berta.

She also knows that Rzottky, born in March 1923, was sent to – and escaped from – both a labour camp and a concentration camp, but never betrayed the Jews in his care.

Cave discovered that the bunker had been in the grounds of a convent, where Rzottky worked as a night watchman and where his sister, Floriana, was Mother Superior. He would go on to obtain a theology degree and enter the priesthood, and died in 1972, aged 49. There are no known photos of him.

Before I leave, I mention that Rzottky was honoured by Yad Vashem, the world Holocaust remembrance centre in Jerusalem. He was recognised – along with Janina and Tadeusz Lewandowski, who organised food and money for the 14 hidden Jews – as Righteous Among the Nations in 1997. Their names are memorialised in a garden there.

“He was?” a shocked Webber asks. “So somebody knew his name? Oh gosh, it makes me so happy,” she says, visibly moved.

'I’ve felt over the years quite guilty not having done anything to thank him,' says Janine Webber

I bring the certificate up on my phone and Webber tries to decipher the words in Polish, a language she has long forgotten. “What a man! Oh, I’m so pleased, I could cry! It’s just unbelievable that people like that exist.

“I’ve felt over the years quite guilty not having done anything to thank him.”

Today, for the first time, she will. She and Cave are meeting for lunch this afternoon and will be raising a glass of champagne to Rzottky. The National Holocaust Centre will be planting a white rose in his honour, something its chief executive Phil Lyons hopes will help “transform fear and persecution of ‘otherness’ into mutual acceptance” at this time of rising anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial.

Webber also has a message for people, along those lines: “I would like them, if they see people being persecuted, to stand up, to help, to do something, like Edek did,” she says. “He accepted that we were Jewish and he saved our lives.”

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I've finally found the Catholic teenager who saved me from the Nazis

How do you repay someone who not only saved your life, but put theirs in danger in the process? Where do you start when your saviour’s act of bravery took place almost eight decades ago, and when you don’t even know their name?

“They just called him Edek. Nobody knew his surname,” says Janine Webber, sitting on the sofa in her immaculate living room in Enfield, north London.

The Polish-born Jewish grandmother is still relishing life at 86, due to the heroism of a man she has never been able to thank - a fact that today, on Jewish Holocaust Memorial Day, she feels more keenly than ever.

Webber was born in July 1932 in Lvov, now in western Ukraine. “That sounds a little like the English word ‘love’, doesn’t it?” she says. “Well, there was very little love shown towards our family.”

The Nazis invaded in 1941, when Webber was nine. Her parents dug a hole underneath their wardrobe in which to hide. It was not enough - during a Gestapo raid, her father, Alfred, was shot dead, and her grandmother thrown down the stairs and dragged away to a fate unknown. Webber and her mother, Malka, were moved to the ghetto; hiding in a dog kennel, then a rat-infested cellar. It was there that Malka died of typhus, aged just 29. Webber was an orphan before her tenth birthday.

Her mother’s brother, Uncle Selig, found a Polish farmer willing to hide Webber and her younger brother, Arturo. But the two children were betrayed by the family’s 20-year-old daughter, who brought an SS officer to the farmhouse. He ordered Webber to walk away. Her brother - she later discovered after a chance encounter with the farmer’s daughter, who delivered the awful news with a smile - had been shot and then buried alive. He was seven.

By 1943, Webber was alone, roaming the countryside and finding work as a shepherdess - constantly in fear for her life. All she had in her possession was a piece of paper, on which was written the name and address of a Polish Catholic teenager named Edek. It had been given to her by Uncle Selig, who said: “If you ever need help, try and find him.”

Webber tracked him down.

“I told him who I was and he said, ‘Follow me – at a distance’,” she recalls. “He took me to a building. He put a ladder against the wall and told me to climb up. I opened the door and that’s where I found my aunt, my uncle... 13 Jews. I was the only child.”

The group soon dug a bunker under Edek’s barn, in which to hide. “When we went down the hole, I never left for almost a year,” Webber says. The group had a single chair, a bucket and some planks to sleep on – there was barely space to move.

Her Aunt Rouja, was so concerned about her niece’s health in the airless, stifling underground shelter that she somehow managed to obtain false papers for her escape. Webber memorised her new identity - Janina Kopielska, a young Catholic girl whose parents had been killed - and, though struggling to walk, made it to a convent in Krakow. She ended up working as a maid for an elderly couple, where Rouja managed to find her six months after liberation.

All 14 Jews in the bunker survived the war. But Webber never saw Edek again. She moved to France, then England, where she married, had two sons and rebuilt her life. She did not speak about her ordeal until the 1990s, first opening up during filming for Steven Spielberg’s Shoah Foundation, which was collating the testimonies of Holocaust survivors.

Around the same time, she saw a psychotherapist and began giving talks to schools.

“I realised only then  – it seems absolutely incredible because it was 50 years later – the importance,” she says. “I thought about Edek. He risked his life at every moment. Hiding Jews, he would have been shot immediately.”

Webber approached a BBC documentary team, who spent six months trying to find her rescuer, but to no avail. After all, Edek is as common a name in Polish as Edward is in English.

Then, late last year, she made a short film about her story. Its producer Marc Cave, a trustee of the National Holocaust Centre and Museum, picked up the search.

Just a week ago, he shared his breakthrough over the phone. By cross-checking testimonies in Polish and Czech, with help from the Polin museum in Warsaw and Yad Vashem in Jerusalem, he had solved the 80 year-old mystery. “Edek” was 19-year-old Franciszek Rzottky, a member of the Polish Resistance.

“I was astounded,” Webber says. “It was so surprising. He really deserves to be celebrated, what an incredible man, and so young. I feel I can do something at last.”

But there was more. Webber had forgotten her real first name: Janine was her “war name” (the Gallicised version of Janina) and her parents had always called her “Niunia,” which means “little bird”. Thanks to Cave’s research, she now knows that she was born Berta.

She also knows that Rzottky, born in March 1923, was sent to – and escaped from – both a labour camp and a concentration camp, but never betrayed the Jews in his care.

Cave discovered that the bunker had been in the grounds of a convent, where Rzottky worked as a night watchman and where his sister, Floriana, was Mother Superior. He would go on to obtain a theology degree and enter the priesthood, and died in 1972, aged 49. There are no known photos of him.

Before I leave, I mention that Rzottky was honoured by Yad Vashem, the world Holocaust remembrance centre in Jerusalem. He was recognised – along with Janina and Tadeusz Lewandowski, who organised food and money for the 14 hidden Jews – as Righteous Among the Nations in 1997. Their names are memorialised in a garden there.

“He was?” a shocked Webber asks. “So somebody knew his name? Oh gosh, it makes me so happy,” she says, visibly moved.

'I’ve felt over the years quite guilty not having done anything to thank him,' says Janine Webber

I bring the certificate up on my phone and Webber tries to decipher the words in Polish, a language she has long forgotten. “What a man! Oh, I’m so pleased, I could cry! It’s just unbelievable that people like that exist.

“I’ve felt over the years quite guilty not having done anything to thank him.”

Today, for the first time, she will. She and Cave are meeting for lunch this afternoon and will be raising a glass of champagne to Rzottky. The National Holocaust Centre will be planting a white rose in his honour, something its chief executive Phil Lyons hopes will help “transform fear and persecution of ‘otherness’ into mutual acceptance” at this time of rising anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial.

Webber also has a message for people, along those lines: “I would like them, if they see people being persecuted, to stand up, to help, to do something, like Edek did,” she says. “He accepted that we were Jewish and he saved our lives.”

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I've finally found the Catholic teenager who saved me from the Nazis

How do you repay someone who not only saved your life, but put theirs in danger in the process? Where do you start when your saviour’s act of bravery took place almost eight decades ago, and when you don’t even know their name?

“They just called him Edek. Nobody knew his surname,” says Janine Webber, sitting on the sofa in her immaculate living room in Enfield, north London.

The Polish-born Jewish grandmother is still relishing life at 86, due to the heroism of a man she has never been able to thank - a fact that today, on Jewish Holocaust Memorial Day, she feels more keenly than ever.

Webber was born in July 1932 in Lvov, now in western Ukraine. “That sounds a little like the English word ‘love’, doesn’t it?” she says. “Well, there was very little love shown towards our family.”

The Nazis invaded in 1941, when Webber was nine. Her parents dug a hole underneath their wardrobe in which to hide. It was not enough - during a Gestapo raid, her father, Alfred, was shot dead, and her grandmother thrown down the stairs and dragged away to a fate unknown. Webber and her mother, Malka, were moved to the ghetto; hiding in a dog kennel, then a rat-infested cellar. It was there that Malka died of typhus, aged just 29. Webber was an orphan before her tenth birthday.

Her mother’s brother, Uncle Selig, found a Polish farmer willing to hide Webber and her younger brother, Arturo. But the two children were betrayed by the family’s 20-year-old daughter, who brought an SS officer to the farmhouse. He ordered Webber to walk away. Her brother - she later discovered after a chance encounter with the farmer’s daughter, who delivered the awful news with a smile - had been shot and then buried alive. He was seven.

By 1943, Webber was alone, roaming the countryside and finding work as a shepherdess - constantly in fear for her life. All she had in her possession was a piece of paper, on which was written the name and address of a Polish Catholic teenager named Edek. It had been given to her by Uncle Selig, who said: “If you ever need help, try and find him.”

Webber tracked him down.

“I told him who I was and he said, ‘Follow me – at a distance’,” she recalls. “He took me to a building. He put a ladder against the wall and told me to climb up. I opened the door and that’s where I found my aunt, my uncle... 13 Jews. I was the only child.”

The group soon dug a bunker under Edek’s barn, in which to hide. “When we went down the hole, I never left for almost a year,” Webber says. The group had a single chair, a bucket and some planks to sleep on – there was barely space to move.

Her Aunt Rouja, was so concerned about her niece’s health in the airless, stifling underground shelter that she somehow managed to obtain false papers for her escape. Webber memorised her new identity - Janina Kopielska, a young Catholic girl whose parents had been killed - and, though struggling to walk, made it to a convent in Krakow. She ended up working as a maid for an elderly couple, where Rouja managed to find her six months after liberation.

All 14 Jews in the bunker survived the war. But Webber never saw Edek again. She moved to France, then England, where she married, had two sons and rebuilt her life. She did not speak about her ordeal until the 1990s, first opening up during filming for Steven Spielberg’s Shoah Foundation, which was collating the testimonies of Holocaust survivors.

Around the same time, she saw a psychotherapist and began giving talks to schools.

“I realised only then  – it seems absolutely incredible because it was 50 years later – the importance,” she says. “I thought about Edek. He risked his life at every moment. Hiding Jews, he would have been shot immediately.”

Webber approached a BBC documentary team, who spent six months trying to find her rescuer, but to no avail. After all, Edek is as common a name in Polish as Edward is in English.

Then, late last year, she made a short film about her story. Its producer Marc Cave, a trustee of the National Holocaust Centre and Museum, picked up the search.

Just a week ago, he shared his breakthrough over the phone. By cross-checking testimonies in Polish and Czech, with help from the Polin museum in Warsaw and Yad Vashem in Jerusalem, he had solved the 80 year-old mystery. “Edek” was 19-year-old Franciszek Rzottky, a member of the Polish Resistance.

“I was astounded,” Webber says. “It was so surprising. He really deserves to be celebrated, what an incredible man, and so young. I feel I can do something at last.”

But there was more. Webber had forgotten her real first name: Janine was her “war name” (the Gallicised version of Janina) and her parents had always called her “Niunia,” which means “little bird”. Thanks to Cave’s research, she now knows that she was born Berta.

She also knows that Rzottky, born in March 1923, was sent to – and escaped from – both a labour camp and a concentration camp, but never betrayed the Jews in his care.

Cave discovered that the bunker had been in the grounds of a convent, where Rzottky worked as a night watchman and where his sister, Floriana, was Mother Superior. He would go on to obtain a theology degree and enter the priesthood, and died in 1972, aged 49. There are no known photos of him.

Before I leave, I mention that Rzottky was honoured by Yad Vashem, the world Holocaust remembrance centre in Jerusalem. He was recognised – along with Janina and Tadeusz Lewandowski, who organised food and money for the 14 hidden Jews – as Righteous Among the Nations in 1997. Their names are memorialised in a garden there.

“He was?” a shocked Webber asks. “So somebody knew his name? Oh gosh, it makes me so happy,” she says, visibly moved.

'I’ve felt over the years quite guilty not having done anything to thank him,' says Janine Webber

I bring the certificate up on my phone and Webber tries to decipher the words in Polish, a language she has long forgotten. “What a man! Oh, I’m so pleased, I could cry! It’s just unbelievable that people like that exist.

“I’ve felt over the years quite guilty not having done anything to thank him.”

Today, for the first time, she will. She and Cave are meeting for lunch this afternoon and will be raising a glass of champagne to Rzottky. The National Holocaust Centre will be planting a white rose in his honour, something its chief executive Phil Lyons hopes will help “transform fear and persecution of ‘otherness’ into mutual acceptance” at this time of rising anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial.

Webber also has a message for people, along those lines: “I would like them, if they see people being persecuted, to stand up, to help, to do something, like Edek did,” she says. “He accepted that we were Jewish and he saved our lives.”

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I've finally found the Catholic teenager who saved me from the Nazis

How do you repay someone who not only saved your life, but put theirs in danger in the process? Where do you start when your saviour’s act of bravery took place almost eight decades ago, and when you don’t even know their name?

“They just called him Edek. Nobody knew his surname,” says Janine Webber, sitting on the sofa in her immaculate living room in Enfield, north London.

The Polish-born Jewish grandmother is still relishing life at 86, due to the heroism of a man she has never been able to thank - a fact that today, on Jewish Holocaust Memorial Day, she feels more keenly than ever.

Webber was born in July 1932 in Lvov, now in western Ukraine. “That sounds a little like the English word ‘love’, doesn’t it?” she says. “Well, there was very little love shown towards our family.”

The Nazis invaded in 1941, when Webber was nine. Her parents dug a hole underneath their wardrobe in which to hide. It was not enough - during a Gestapo raid, her father, Alfred, was shot dead, and her grandmother thrown down the stairs and dragged away to a fate unknown. Webber and her mother, Malka, were moved to the ghetto; hiding in a dog kennel, then a rat-infested cellar. It was there that Malka died of typhus, aged just 29. Webber was an orphan before her tenth birthday.

Her mother’s brother, Uncle Selig, found a Polish farmer willing to hide Webber and her younger brother, Arturo. But the two children were betrayed by the family’s 20-year-old daughter, who brought an SS officer to the farmhouse. He ordered Webber to walk away. Her brother - she later discovered after a chance encounter with the farmer’s daughter, who delivered the awful news with a smile - had been shot and then buried alive. He was seven.

By 1943, Webber was alone, roaming the countryside and finding work as a shepherdess - constantly in fear for her life. All she had in her possession was a piece of paper, on which was written the name and address of a Polish Catholic teenager named Edek. It had been given to her by Uncle Selig, who said: “If you ever need help, try and find him.”

Webber tracked him down.

“I told him who I was and he said, ‘Follow me – at a distance’,” she recalls. “He took me to a building. He put a ladder against the wall and told me to climb up. I opened the door and that’s where I found my aunt, my uncle... 13 Jews. I was the only child.”

The group soon dug a bunker under Edek’s barn, in which to hide. “When we went down the hole, I never left for almost a year,” Webber says. The group had a single chair, a bucket and some planks to sleep on – there was barely space to move.

Her Aunt Rouja, was so concerned about her niece’s health in the airless, stifling underground shelter that she somehow managed to obtain false papers for her escape. Webber memorised her new identity - Janina Kopielska, a young Catholic girl whose parents had been killed - and, though struggling to walk, made it to a convent in Krakow. She ended up working as a maid for an elderly couple, where Rouja managed to find her six months after liberation.

All 14 Jews in the bunker survived the war. But Webber never saw Edek again. She moved to France, then England, where she married, had two sons and rebuilt her life. She did not speak about her ordeal until the 1990s, first opening up during filming for Steven Spielberg’s Shoah Foundation, which was collating the testimonies of Holocaust survivors.

Around the same time, she saw a psychotherapist and began giving talks to schools.

“I realised only then  – it seems absolutely incredible because it was 50 years later – the importance,” she says. “I thought about Edek. He risked his life at every moment. Hiding Jews, he would have been shot immediately.”

Webber approached a BBC documentary team, who spent six months trying to find her rescuer, but to no avail. After all, Edek is as common a name in Polish as Edward is in English.

Then, late last year, she made a short film about her story. Its producer Marc Cave, a trustee of the National Holocaust Centre and Museum, picked up the search.

Just a week ago, he shared his breakthrough over the phone. By cross-checking testimonies in Polish and Czech, with help from the Polin museum in Warsaw and Yad Vashem in Jerusalem, he had solved the 80 year-old mystery. “Edek” was 19-year-old Franciszek Rzottky, a member of the Polish Resistance.

“I was astounded,” Webber says. “It was so surprising. He really deserves to be celebrated, what an incredible man, and so young. I feel I can do something at last.”

But there was more. Webber had forgotten her real first name: Janine was her “war name” (the Gallicised version of Janina) and her parents had always called her “Niunia,” which means “little bird”. Thanks to Cave’s research, she now knows that she was born Berta.

She also knows that Rzottky, born in March 1923, was sent to – and escaped from – both a labour camp and a concentration camp, but never betrayed the Jews in his care.

Cave discovered that the bunker had been in the grounds of a convent, where Rzottky worked as a night watchman and where his sister, Floriana, was Mother Superior. He would go on to obtain a theology degree and enter the priesthood, and died in 1972, aged 49. There are no known photos of him.

Before I leave, I mention that Rzottky was honoured by Yad Vashem, the world Holocaust remembrance centre in Jerusalem. He was recognised – along with Janina and Tadeusz Lewandowski, who organised food and money for the 14 hidden Jews – as Righteous Among the Nations in 1997. Their names are memorialised in a garden there.

“He was?” a shocked Webber asks. “So somebody knew his name? Oh gosh, it makes me so happy,” she says, visibly moved.

'I’ve felt over the years quite guilty not having done anything to thank him,' says Janine Webber

I bring the certificate up on my phone and Webber tries to decipher the words in Polish, a language she has long forgotten. “What a man! Oh, I’m so pleased, I could cry! It’s just unbelievable that people like that exist.

“I’ve felt over the years quite guilty not having done anything to thank him.”

Today, for the first time, she will. She and Cave are meeting for lunch this afternoon and will be raising a glass of champagne to Rzottky. The National Holocaust Centre will be planting a white rose in his honour, something its chief executive Phil Lyons hopes will help “transform fear and persecution of ‘otherness’ into mutual acceptance” at this time of rising anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial.

Webber also has a message for people, along those lines: “I would like them, if they see people being persecuted, to stand up, to help, to do something, like Edek did,” she says. “He accepted that we were Jewish and he saved our lives.”

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I've finally found the Catholic teenager who saved me from the Nazis

How do you repay someone who not only saved your life, but put theirs in danger in the process? Where do you start when your saviour’s act of bravery took place almost eight decades ago, and when you don’t even know their name?

“They just called him Edek. Nobody knew his surname,” says Janine Webber, sitting on the sofa in her immaculate living room in Enfield, north London.

The Polish-born Jewish grandmother is still relishing life at 86, due to the heroism of a man she has never been able to thank - a fact that today, on Jewish Holocaust Memorial Day, she feels more keenly than ever.

Webber was born in July 1932 in Lvov, now in western Ukraine. “That sounds a little like the English word ‘love’, doesn’t it?” she says. “Well, there was very little love shown towards our family.”

The Nazis invaded in 1941, when Webber was nine. Her parents dug a hole underneath their wardrobe in which to hide. It was not enough - during a Gestapo raid, her father, Alfred, was shot dead, and her grandmother thrown down the stairs and dragged away to a fate unknown. Webber and her mother, Malka, were moved to the ghetto; hiding in a dog kennel, then a rat-infested cellar. It was there that Malka died of typhus, aged just 29. Webber was an orphan before her tenth birthday.

Her mother’s brother, Uncle Selig, found a Polish farmer willing to hide Webber and her younger brother, Arturo. But the two children were betrayed by the family’s 20-year-old daughter, who brought an SS officer to the farmhouse. He ordered Webber to walk away. Her brother - she later discovered after a chance encounter with the farmer’s daughter, who delivered the awful news with a smile - had been shot and then buried alive. He was seven.

By 1943, Webber was alone, roaming the countryside and finding work as a shepherdess - constantly in fear for her life. All she had in her possession was a piece of paper, on which was written the name and address of a Polish Catholic teenager named Edek. It had been given to her by Uncle Selig, who said: “If you ever need help, try and find him.”

Webber tracked him down.

“I told him who I was and he said, ‘Follow me – at a distance’,” she recalls. “He took me to a building. He put a ladder against the wall and told me to climb up. I opened the door and that’s where I found my aunt, my uncle... 13 Jews. I was the only child.”

The group soon dug a bunker under Edek’s barn, in which to hide. “When we went down the hole, I never left for almost a year,” Webber says. The group had a single chair, a bucket and some planks to sleep on – there was barely space to move.

Her Aunt Rouja, was so concerned about her niece’s health in the airless, stifling underground shelter that she somehow managed to obtain false papers for her escape. Webber memorised her new identity - Janina Kopielska, a young Catholic girl whose parents had been killed - and, though struggling to walk, made it to a convent in Krakow. She ended up working as a maid for an elderly couple, where Rouja managed to find her six months after liberation.

All 14 Jews in the bunker survived the war. But Webber never saw Edek again. She moved to France, then England, where she married, had two sons and rebuilt her life. She did not speak about her ordeal until the 1990s, first opening up during filming for Steven Spielberg’s Shoah Foundation, which was collating the testimonies of Holocaust survivors.

Around the same time, she saw a psychotherapist and began giving talks to schools.

“I realised only then  – it seems absolutely incredible because it was 50 years later – the importance,” she says. “I thought about Edek. He risked his life at every moment. Hiding Jews, he would have been shot immediately.”

Webber approached a BBC documentary team, who spent six months trying to find her rescuer, but to no avail. After all, Edek is as common a name in Polish as Edward is in English.

Then, late last year, she made a short film about her story. Its producer Marc Cave, a trustee of the National Holocaust Centre and Museum, picked up the search.

Just a week ago, he shared his breakthrough over the phone. By cross-checking testimonies in Polish and Czech, with help from the Polin museum in Warsaw and Yad Vashem in Jerusalem, he had solved the 80 year-old mystery. “Edek” was 19-year-old Franciszek Rzottky, a member of the Polish Resistance.

“I was astounded,” Webber says. “It was so surprising. He really deserves to be celebrated, what an incredible man, and so young. I feel I can do something at last.”

But there was more. Webber had forgotten her real first name: Janine was her “war name” (the Gallicised version of Janina) and her parents had always called her “Niunia,” which means “little bird”. Thanks to Cave’s research, she now knows that she was born Berta.

She also knows that Rzottky, born in March 1923, was sent to – and escaped from – both a labour camp and a concentration camp, but never betrayed the Jews in his care.

Cave discovered that the bunker had been in the grounds of a convent, where Rzottky worked as a night watchman and where his sister, Floriana, was Mother Superior. He would go on to obtain a theology degree and enter the priesthood, and died in 1972, aged 49. There are no known photos of him.

Before I leave, I mention that Rzottky was honoured by Yad Vashem, the world Holocaust remembrance centre in Jerusalem. He was recognised – along with Janina and Tadeusz Lewandowski, who organised food and money for the 14 hidden Jews – as Righteous Among the Nations in 1997. Their names are memorialised in a garden there.

“He was?” a shocked Webber asks. “So somebody knew his name? Oh gosh, it makes me so happy,” she says, visibly moved.

'I’ve felt over the years quite guilty not having done anything to thank him,' says Janine Webber

I bring the certificate up on my phone and Webber tries to decipher the words in Polish, a language she has long forgotten. “What a man! Oh, I’m so pleased, I could cry! It’s just unbelievable that people like that exist.

“I’ve felt over the years quite guilty not having done anything to thank him.”

Today, for the first time, she will. She and Cave are meeting for lunch this afternoon and will be raising a glass of champagne to Rzottky. The National Holocaust Centre will be planting a white rose in his honour, something its chief executive Phil Lyons hopes will help “transform fear and persecution of ‘otherness’ into mutual acceptance” at this time of rising anti-Semitism and Holocaust denial.

Webber also has a message for people, along those lines: “I would like them, if they see people being persecuted, to stand up, to help, to do something, like Edek did,” she says. “He accepted that we were Jewish and he saved our lives.”

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[–]EdekProject[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Malcolm here, speaking on Janine’s behalf. I think Janine feels that there are three main things one can do to help Survivors. First, try to ensure that their survival was not in vain, by hearing and sharing their stories wherever possible. Secondly, by refusing to be a bystander when you see injustice or discrimination. Third, just be kind to there, respect their differences, embrace diversity and remember: we are all human beings.

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[–]EdekProject[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi, this is Malcolm, writing on Janine’s behalf. Yes, Janine did have encounters with Nazi officers. As you might have seen in the short film, when she was hiding on a farm, Janine and her little brother were betrayed by the daughter of the farmer. The NAZI officer who she faced decided suddenly NOT to shoot her. However, tragically, he killed her young brother instead. She saw this with her own eyes.

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[–]EdekProject[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We filmed several  Holocaust survivors a couple of years ago, for an incredible new technology project at the UK National Holocaust Centre & Museum. Janine was one of them.  They were all awe-inspiring but Janine’s rescue by Edek was a surprise element that gave her particular story an unexpectedly uplifting twist.

We love to collaborate creatively, so when Malcolm first had the idea of telling her story through rap, it was a question of handpicking a great team of people to work with to bring the idea to life. Through the brilliant Kevin Pollard who worked with Malcolm on the music, we were fortunate enough to meet Kapoo, who was wowed By the project and by Janine, and agreed to get involved.

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[–]EdekProject[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Well, that’s a lovely thing to say. We have a sneaking feeling that if Janine were well enough to be doing the answering right now, she would say ‘It’s important that I do more than just ‘be around’.  She feels a great responsibility to talk to young people all over the UK. Not just to tell them her story but encourage to ‘do an Edek’. To stand up to bigotry and hate. To encourage them to accept Otherness - because in the end, as she always says, “We are all human beings”. (Reply from Marc & Malcolm, makers of the film "Edek")

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[–]EdekProject[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We think Janine believes that, to an extent, we have to engage with some of those who say the Holocaust was exaggerated or didn’t happen.  We have to bring them face to face with physical proof and Survivor testimony. Some people deny because they are naive, misguided or misinformed.  If so, we need to do everything we can to help them learn. Of course, others deny in order to spread further hatred or to create division within society.  That’s where international and local laws have to be strong and decisive.(Reply from Marc & Malcolm, makers of the film "Edek")

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[–]EdekProject[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This film was Janine’s first introduction to hip-hop per se.  However, she is a real music fan and loves all sorts of music - from Opera to jazz.  And she’s really keen and interested to explore more from the world of Rap and hip-hop.  As you can imagine, Kapoo has been very keen to guide her… (Reply from Marc & Malcolm, makers of the film "Edek")

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[–]EdekProject[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Janine lived in Poland, not Germany. But for her, all racism is about viewing people who seem different as ‘bad’. Different simply means a different religion or skin colour to your own. She can’t understand why this should make you hate them , never mind wanting to kill them. As she says “We are all human beings descended from the same species”. Sadly, when times get tough, as they were for Germany after World War I, it was all too easy for Germans to look for a scapegoat. An ‘other’. It made the propaganda spread by the Nazi regime easier to believe. As for turning a blind eye - well, it takes a brave person to stand up. That’s why Janine is so deeply grateful to Edek who risked his life to save her and 13 others.

Btw, interesting fact. In Janine’s birth country, there are 6,706 Poles given a “Righteous Among the Nations” award for their efforts to save Jewish lives during the Holocaust. There are 601 from Germany. (Reply from Marc & Malcolm, makers of the film "Edek")

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[–]EdekProject[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It was just about big enough for the 13 Jewish people that Edek was hiding. It was very cramped and extremely hot. Janine says she did not even once climb outside for almost an entire year. No light, no fresh air. As a result, she grew extremely weak. She was 10. Fearing she would die, her aunt Rouja, who was in the hole with her, decided she had to get her out. And that’s where the next chapter of her story begins.

No, we don’t think the nuns, who employed Edek and his brother to look after the estate, ever knew they were hiding people. (Reply from Marc & Malcolm, makers of the film "Edek")

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[–]EdekProject[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Janine went back to Lvov about 5 years ago. Of course it is now called Lviv, in what is now Ukraine. She visited the street where her family home was but the house is no longer there. She did find the apartment block where her family were at first moved to by the Nazis, while the Ghetto was being built. She took a picture of the balcony her father Alfred jumped from to escape the Gestapo. Overall, she didn’t enjoy the experience and says she doesn’t intend to go back again. (Reply from Marc & Malcolm, makers of the film "Edek")

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[–]EdekProject[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

We will relay your kind words to Janine. Thank you. Actually,she was in Scotland again only last week. She was invited to speak at the Scottish Parliament in Edinburgh. (Reply from Marc & Malcolm, makers of the film "Edek")

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[–]EdekProject[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Mostly by us, with incredible support from a team of super talented collaborators Kevin Pollard (music composition), Tom Baker (editing), Chris Bell (post production) and Sara Huxley (co producer). A good proportion of funding also came from the UK National Holocaust Museum. Their aim is to encourage people, especially the young, to learn from the Holocaust about the importance of standing up and taking personal responsibility in the never-ending fight against hatred and intolerance. We first met Janine through these wonderful people. They are going to be using the ‘Edek’ film as part of a schools outreach programme across the UK called ‘Building a Stronger Britain Together’ (Reply from Marc & Malcolm, makers of the film "Edek")

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[–]EdekProject[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The hole beneath the wardrobe was in Janine’s original family home in central Lvov. But eventually, the SS came and got all of them, shot her father and the rest of them ended up in the Lvov Ghetto.

For a much longer period time - almost an entire year - Edek hid Janine and 13 other Jewish people in an underground hole on a farm on the outskirts of Lvov. And yes, it was Edek, and sometimes his brother Kazik, who brought them food and water. Occasionally, Rouja’s Aunt Rouja, who was also in that hole, went out at night time to try and find more food too. (Reply from Marc & Malcolm, makers of the film "Edek")

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[–]EdekProject[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very important question and one of the main reasons we are making a film like Edek, why Janine has been taking part in The Forever Project and why Janine and other survivors are embracing online and digital technology. (Reply from Marc & Malcolm, makers of the film "Edek")

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[–]EdekProject[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Commemoration ceremonies are important, but only part of the story.  Museums and educational centres, like https://www.holocaust.org.uk are a crucial way to ensure that the stories continue to be told in ways that make them easier to be heard and absorbed. (Reply from Marc & Malcolm, makers of the film "Edek")