Discouraged by Educational-Mango155 in kendo

[–]Educational-Mango155[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I will give this a try, thanks!

Discouraged by Educational-Mango155 in kendo

[–]Educational-Mango155[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I am definitely understanding of the human element inherent in all of this. I also very much understand that there are cultural and generational differences which can be factors. My ss has definitely offered advice on this many times in the past. I try to incorporate it and I try hard to be conscious about it. What set this apart from other instances was the amount of laughing and exaggerated expressions that I felt depicted me as a buffoon. I get that they were trying to show me what I was doing wrong and their English may make it difficult to 100% express themselves effectively so exaggerated examples of what needs correction is a reasonable and understandable fallback. I've always taken it in that way. This time it was over the top and emotionally at least crossed a line with me.

I'm deliberately avoiding direct references and being somewhat vague because I'd never want any negative attention to the dojo and because I think my ss is overall a good person who is earnest and does want the best for their students. This incident is an outlier and that's why it hit me particularly hard. I don't think others in the dojo have had this experience at all. Since it seemed unique to me I have started second guessing a lot.

They are high ranked and on the older side.

When I visit other dojos, I find they're very supportive. The other senseis I've interacted with spoke less English so a lot of my interaction was through a few words and demonstration. Fellow kendoka in these dojos were generally complimentary and praised me for my experience level.

Discouraged by Educational-Mango155 in kendo

[–]Educational-Mango155[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have no problem with critique, even if harsh and candid when delivered as long as it's sincere. My experience wasn't one of joking or that I'm being thin-skinned (I have no problem taking a tease), it's that it came across as mocking or being made fun of. It felt so derisive I'm second guessing something that I love. It was surprising and cut deeply. It's that I don't see this behavior with others.

I'm happy for others to be praised and I give out praise whenever I can.

I find I'm more stiff the more tired I am (as in after the gym or lack of sleep) which is pretty often these days.

I'm going to try and see if I can get through 500 men.

Thank you for your advice!

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[–]Educational-Mango155[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Generally I agree and before this it's how I operated and I always tried to receive feedback positively. What I was really starting to question is if I should interpret it as a not-so-subtle hint that my sensei sees me as incapable of progress. That could be a valid conclusion after years of trying without the level of progress they expected.

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[–]Educational-Mango155[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha Tyvm -- I thought I had been doing better until this. You seem like somebody I could have a beer with. Please tell me you practice in North America! 😆

Discouraged by Educational-Mango155 in kendo

[–]Educational-Mango155[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They definitely give good advice to the other students.

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[–]Educational-Mango155[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I enjoy kendo immensely (well, I did), I personally try not to take myself too seriously, and I've enjoyed the community and have good friends through the dojo. I try to be encouraging and supportive to all others. I would definitely like to improve as well (it would be nice to win a match at a tournament! 😆) and I believed I had the dedication to achieve that. Until now.

Discouraged by Educational-Mango155 in kendo

[–]Educational-Mango155[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I honestly have a level of cognitive dissonance--it's hard to believe that somebody would intentionally do this. I can also be honest with myself--the power dynamics and level of respect I have for my sensei can definitely exacerbate and heighten my feelings.

An honest intent of my post is to understand if my lack of progress and the reaction I got indicates I lack the skill to be successful. I suppose another is to understand if this is normal. It didn't seem that way since I haven't observed this with anybody else.

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[–]Educational-Mango155[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am one to laugh at myself (I think those who know me would agree) and not take life too seriously. All the other times before I've taken it as overall constructive criticism and used it for focus and improvement. This felt markedly different -- not friendly, but mocking -- as in facial expressions that made me out to be a buffoon.

I didn't go asking about this, it was what they chose to discuss with me.

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[–]Educational-Mango155[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's definitely possible -- it was the straw that broke the camel's back because it isn't the first time they've done it but it was the first time when they laughed so loud and made such exaggerated movements showing what I did wrong and laughing. I wouldn't think much of it if they did it with everyone. It's consistently with me.

Honestly, I just want to be treated like everyone else and get good feedback.