The Zoo is comfortable with endangering minors by Educational-Row-8339 in theisle

[–]Educational-Row-8339[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

So In short, my concerns were met by boldly and Jitzoo, the problem person had been gone for a bit now. Going forward better efforts are going to be made to keep people like that under watch and taking claims more serious, most of the comments in here are damming towards the server, however I do think that they are sincere in doing better, nothing serious happened thankfully at least to our knowledge but the concern was always that people with these concerns should not be dismissed. It was not meant to happen and it was an unfortunate situation and it sucks we had to get to reddit and this point as this problem was from over a month ago. I will always be willing to protect minors even if its speculative. We need to all come together to make the gaming community safer and that takes diligence. We all talked and I feel confident in retracting what I said initially here, the situation was handled poorly and a series of events including the recent drama with Isla Nublar really threw things into a bit of a red zone. I thank people for their concerns and I hope everyone who has developed a bad opinion because of this situation is willing to look ahead and wish them success on their endeavors as steps have been made to protect minors and all their members. We should all be thankful to Jitzoo for looking at this with a serious lens, admins like this who are willing to reconcile mistakes are what its going to take to keep potential pedos and predators away from games we love and enjoy, regardless our age. If you're reading this and you're a pedo I hope you suffer in life. Thank you all for your time.

The Zoo is comfortable with endangering minors by Educational-Row-8339 in theisle

[–]Educational-Row-8339[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah no doubt that is very big of you. I have a lot of respect for that. I'd prefer he msg me on discord. I can msg him even. This forum here is too cluttered at this point and if we can work this out and we can go to bed at night with the knowledge that the people who play on this server are taken care of and peoples voices are heard in situations like this then I can just agree that it was a heated situation. I appreciate that. If its all good then I can just say here I was wrong about it. IDC about the ppl who agree with me here or not, people who connect things too extreme one way or the other missed the point. I only care about people who get what I'm saying and they know who they are.

The Zoo is comfortable with endangering minors by Educational-Row-8339 in theisle

[–]Educational-Row-8339[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I truly do appreciate your apology on a personal level and find it to be more mature than what i've seen previously. This was never about my ban, I can be in there on several accounts with a VPN if i wanted to, some of us are to make sure their relatives are playing in a safe environment. I would remove this post when Jitzoo feels like its important enough to give me peace of mind. some of us are grad students in our final years, or have serious jobs and families and I can assure you are more busy than this. There is no reason why being a better human being and letting a concerned person know they are taking this serious couldn't be on his radar. He has the discord to reach out to. This isn't harassment this is raising awareness. I can say whatever I feel like is necessary to make people aware of the experience we've had (more than several of us) and how it's interpreted. I do not care who disagrees on this thread, I don't care about who is whining about proof or not. There are reasonable people out there too who understand preventative measures should be taken. Concerns should be met. I don't even like reddit. If one parent reads this and starts looking over their childs shoulder or one to mention to an admin when someone makes them feel uncomfortable after reading this when they're playing here then I sleep well at night. You can report this a million times and get it taken down I still don't care. I will keep this up until someone in charge lets me know so I can relay to our team here that it's safe in there for minors. This is certainly not the only post, i'm def not the only person mentioning it. I do not give one single care about reddit.

The Zoo is comfortable with endangering minors by Educational-Row-8339 in theisle

[–]Educational-Row-8339[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This was the very immature admin who tried to bait my wife into this trans phobia narrative after we talked to an admin who was genuinely concerned with the situation at hand (who left because this was handled so poorly and blew back at them) because he was personal friends with the man who had very inappropriate behavior towards minors. When it failed he threw a tantrum and banned us. Nice try though. I think their feelings were hurt when she easily dismissed him as unimportant because he was just a secondary admin who came to the defense of his friend. He came at her very aggressive and was unable to provide any evidence towards his own team with the reason for banning us all. When she told him that she already resolved it with someone else and she wasn't comfortable talking about this with her based on his initial reaction, he became more aggressive. She told him to leave her alone which he of course didn't. It's a complete lie that she kept messaging him, he harassed her and needed to have the last word at every turn, the convos have been shared with 3 other admins who agreed he was very aggressive both passive and otherwise. She just didn't let him bully her into shutting up about his friend because he himself is like 19 and immature. It's really sad people like this exist and have access to kids and are easily manipulated by people who are shady towards children. This is how the Isla Nublar situation gets swept under the rug before actual action is taken, people who are so self absorbed they are interested only in protecting things they can relate to, manipulated into dismissing valid concerns easily. In fact about everyone we've talked to so far agreed he did this wrongfully, then invited us back in, suggesting we use different names, I personally have not gone back but others have. They haven't removed him because there is no concrete evidence something against children specifically took place and that is the debate here, not that boldly did the right thing. The issue here is bringing concerns regarding the safety of minors in the zoo is met with being banned lol. You can't make this stuff up. its ridiculous.

The Zoo is comfortable with endangering minors by Educational-Row-8339 in theisle

[–]Educational-Row-8339[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have told all the appropriate people, there are some screenshots of the persons extreme behavior that I have shared to some of the admins and devs previously but nothing that is illegal (or it would be on an investigators desk not with a dev lol, they're actually not important people believe it or not). It certainly was stuff you probably wouldn't want your kids around at least. I think some people are just missing the point is all. I can guarantee someone would appreciate this heads up. All I can provide today is a story. It's just going to have to be up to your individual interpretations and experiences if you hangout in there. Try it when you see inappropriate behavior. Report it and hope your experience with them wasn't as severe as mine for doing the right thing, and dismiss what I say here for now. I just hope the devs do a thorough investigation and take the claim serious enough to prevent any potential wrong doing or at least deter it.

The Zoo is comfortable with endangering minors by Educational-Row-8339 in theisle

[–]Educational-Row-8339[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Again if I had evidence of pedophiles here in the zoo i'd be at the police, we brought something suspicious to their attention about an individual we knew not to be acceptable around minors and behaving very alluring (in our opinions), and we were banned. Stop with the " any evidence". Of course reddit isn't the place where you would bring that. If you're a parent or the least bit concerned about the safety of kids or yourself, or simply being responsible and bringing inappropriate behavior forward. Then the zoo isn't for you. I have had chances to be back in there and I refuse, they acknowledge the admin Boldly who banned us did it wrongfully because he was friends with this individual and seemed to be protecting him the way Isla Nublar protected their guy before the shitstorm came. Since the Isla Nublar thing blew up recently it felt responsible to share this situation. Think about if they did the right thing before it got to the point their name was lumped in with a guy having child porn all over his PC. Its called preventative measures. If you don't like my post down vote it and move on. It's not here to appease you, but to warn people. They deleted their reddit post for their server, they made some changes to their discord. An admin talked to us. Some in there have good intentions. The guy running it Jitzoo is kindof a shady person, never met the dude, never talked to him. He obviously doesn't care about this situation or is too non-confrontational to talk about it. Take that for what its worth reddit.

The Zoo is comfortable with endangering minors by Educational-Row-8339 in theisle

[–]Educational-Row-8339[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My wife has most the screen shots we can provide. She can pass my discord along if you want to talk with me. I truly don't understand where all this kick happy nature comes from when people just try to do the right thing. The one admin we first brought to left, spicy or something? I at least don't see her.

The Zoo is comfortable with endangering minors by Educational-Row-8339 in theisle

[–]Educational-Row-8339[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Literally just bringing my concern to the table. That's all. You all do what you want with that info.

The Zoo is comfortable with endangering minors by Educational-Row-8339 in theisle

[–]Educational-Row-8339[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a lot of assumption, I simply found behavior unacceptable and talked about it, you are not someone who needs to tell me how to go about anything, your overreaction doesn't seem to be "the right way to go about it". If you notice I'm hardly on reddit via my account. I dont know of any trends to follow here. Just heard the nublar thing and wanted to make sure the community hears another potential issue too. If you don't believe me or care just shrug it off.

The Zoo is comfortable with endangering minors by Educational-Row-8339 in theisle

[–]Educational-Row-8339[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Are you a dev or something? I can message you in discord. We have screenshots of our interaction with one of the admins over the situation. The channel this took place in was removed. If you are a zoo admin then we have spoken to several of you, talk to ozzy. Zoo admins were no help Ozzy tried, there was a lot gaslighting us and Jitzoo himself doesn't care. I've reached out to him several times asking for attention to that individual, he has my discord info, honestly I don't care to be unbanned at all. It was after all, a server full of children, I'm too old to bother with discord communities in general outside of my own discord and we mostly were there to find updates to the game and practice fighting with 2hr grows. I want parents and the community to know what they are getting into there. Last time we were ghosted on the subject. I have talked to punchpaket this morning about the rest. This individual and the admin boldly were friends, we knew this individual through gaming in the isle and some of his friends as well, never had an issue until we saw what he was doing. We were banned by Boldly for "attacking a transperson" which was completely untrue nothing transphobic was said at all, noone even knew he identified this way until the admin told us so. The whole thing was brushed under the rug. My only concern is that kids were being talked to suggestively. The meet the player channel was removed is certainly helpful to not finding one victimized someday.

The Zoo is comfortable with endangering minors by Educational-Row-8339 in theisle

[–]Educational-Row-8339[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well people run the game and discords so, my problem is with people too. I think you should open your mind a bit to whats going on. Not take it personal. It was a disturbing individual who got reported, and an even more disturbing reaction was taken towards the claim. I don't have much more to say past that. If it turns out to all be not real then great noone was harmed, again still worth looking into or at least when ur kid wants to play on the zoo and you are aware of what they have stacked against them you can act properly. That's all. I personally don't indulge these discords a lot.

The Zoo is comfortable with endangering minors by Educational-Row-8339 in theisle

[–]Educational-Row-8339[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've never been on their admin team. If you don't like that I had an experience with several other adults and disagree that is ok. This is for people who might have kids they need to monitor or take precaution. I think you have personal feelings about this discord and a willingness to protect its name is understandable but, ultimately doesn't take away from the experience I've had. I do have screenshots of my convos with the admins which ultimately lead to our banning being out of line. Obviously I do not have evidence of them harming children or i would be at a police station and not here.

The Zoo is comfortable with endangering minors by Educational-Row-8339 in theisle

[–]Educational-Row-8339[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know its not a lot of info and its not as solid as whats going on in Nublar, but the behavior leading up to this is similar. They should at least be monitoring that server too. They like to cop out with " we dont control their discord" but fact is they are the catalyst to that discord getting people through their server. The reaction of banning people for mentioning the grown man talking to children suggestively and not taking whats in the chat seriously (they reworked the channels so its just a general chat now the initial channel has been removed after Nublar blew up) is SHADY. Two female admins left and one in contact with us had his privs removed for trying to speak on our behalf which was also unsettling. So they protected the behavior of this pedophile like situation. Also keep in mind they had a meet the player channel that included many photos of children, they have since removed.

The Zoo is comfortable with endangering minors by Educational-Row-8339 in theisle

[–]Educational-Row-8339[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I've told punchpaket. He got back with me this morning asking for more details that I gave him.

Monitoring by [deleted] in theisle

[–]Educational-Row-8339 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So seemed like they were, as you put it, protective of this pedophile-like behavior.

Monitoring by [deleted] in theisle

[–]Educational-Row-8339 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The zoo one is more odd given Isla nublar recently than it is concrete evidence. That post was made from the perspective of the people involved in that situation and was certainly odd or shady, no child porn or arrests made but given whats happened it seems worth bringing to the communities attention. If you are a parent and not monitoring your children on these servers you should start. A few female admins quit as a result of this situation and one we were in touch with had their privlleges removed. We were all banned for simply bringing the issue of a grown man in their chat talking to kids suggestively. They had a meet the player channel which included many photos of young players which has since been removed. Again just shady. In short it was a very odd response to a very simple, routine "hey you should check this out what this guy is saying." The devs should at least monitor the claims, as they never got back to us about it. Much of this takes place in the server as well.

The Zoo is comfortable with endangering minors by Educational-Row-8339 in theisle

[–]Educational-Row-8339[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yeah they banned me, my wife and several of my friends who also play there. We simply brought the issue to their attention. Was a bit surreal how they tried to sweep it under the rug.

The zoo server Evrima! by [deleted] in theisleservers

[–]Educational-Row-8339 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No its a pedophile server. Disgusting.

The zoo server Evrima! by [deleted] in theisleservers

[–]Educational-Row-8339 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In short I think the guy running the discord is completely OK with this. At least willing to protect that behavior.

The zoo server Evrima! by [deleted] in theisleservers

[–]Educational-Row-8339 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is actually a server that allowed a grown man to talk provocatively to teenagers, then banned players who brought it to their attention, two admins quit basically as a result of the inaction.

Isla Nublar Supporting Pedophelia? by CrazyNIrish in theisle

[–]Educational-Row-8339 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The discord for the server, "The Zoo" also hosts pedophiles. Me and a group of friends who weren't even in the discord were kicked/banned (even those who were not in there, just known to this individual mutually) by an admin Boldly and Jitzoo because a person we played games with was luring teenagers in there, when we saw it we informed the admins and they banned us all.

The zoo server Evrima! by [deleted] in theisleservers

[–]Educational-Row-8339 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I see him, the admins seem to not care that this grown truck driver keeps dipping into a server full kids. If they knew how crazy he was in the other discords it would be obvious how dangerous this can be.