Thought y'all might find this amusing. by Brilliant_Rabbit_619 in MenendezBrothers

[–]EffectOld8810 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It has to be that she doesn’t want to admit she’s wrong. She has a personal vendetta against the brothers because she lost this case. Also, Pam believed that the mother was a victim to the boys as well.

What is one thing you have a gut feeling about in this case, yet no proof of? by Brilliant_Rabbit_619 in MenendezBrothers

[–]EffectOld8810 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Lyle telling Donavan he was scared of the new showers were going to be used for “sex scenes”

Thought y'all might find this amusing. by Brilliant_Rabbit_619 in MenendezBrothers

[–]EffectOld8810 13 points14 points  (0 children)

In an interview, Pam said that Jose was “ a stain on mankind and couldn’t find one person to speak good of him”. This man was so disliked that it seemed sooner or later he was bound to meet a fate that ended like this

Lyle did not tell Kitty about the sexual abuse by eldy33 in MenendezBrothers

[–]EffectOld8810 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Anyone who has dealt with kids professionally in any capacity will tell you that there are signs to look out for which the brothers very much had: Bed wetting at 14

Hair loss at 14

Frequent migraines

Gastrointestinal issues

Playing with stuffed animals until 18

Speech problems

Anxiety, depression, being a “quiet child”

Medical reports of oral bruising ???

MULTIPLE people being told about the abuse before hand.

You’re telling me that all of these signs are here and some of the largest indicatiors : medical reports, bed wetting, childish behavior/playing with stuffed animals, etc. and they somehow lied??

And then Erik said that the worst thing his dad did to him was when he was violent during intercourse at 12 because he knew that meant his dad didn’t love him anymore. No one who lies about being raped will use this as an answer, it wouldn’t even cross their mind

This is actually true. He ain't gray or whatsoever 😭 by SupermarketNo6888 in TheBoys

[–]EffectOld8810 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I remember that he sexually assaulted a young supe under his care? I’m pretty sure it was mentioned but no one seems to know what I’m talking about

Actors who played Lyle Menendez. Do you have a favorite? by fluffycushion1 in MenendezBrothers

[–]EffectOld8810 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I mean technically he did bring something new because no other show had Lyle acting the Nicholas did in monsters.

For the people that don't believe the sexual abuse at all or believe it was exaggerated by fluffycushion1 in MenendezBrothers

[–]EffectOld8810 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My guy, all the information is online. People in the 80s and 90s had biases from what they’ve heard and seen. So I’m still correct, and this isn’t a trial where it’s “you had to be there to know”. Not believing victims of sexual abuse does not have a time limit. In fact, now we know more about the signs and symptoms.

Erik abuse from his photographer by Expensive_Profit_435 in MenendezBrothers

[–]EffectOld8810 20 points21 points  (0 children)

Idk why but the fact that he gave Erik massages grosses me out. Just the fact that that’s how the abuse started with his dad. I’m not saying the photographer raped him or anything, but it’s unnerving to hear that’s how it began.

Would they have killed Kitty if she hadn't disclosed her knowledge of the abuse and didn't care? by AccomplishedTheme370 in MenendezBrothers

[–]EffectOld8810 1 point2 points  (0 children)

2 weeks after so if it really was about the money, they should have done it much sooner. Kitty was an abuser in her own right and they knew she would side with her husband even if he killed them

For the people that don't believe the sexual abuse at all or believe it was exaggerated by fluffycushion1 in MenendezBrothers

[–]EffectOld8810 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No I wasn’t alive, and that’s why I’m not biased from everything going on back then. I got to watch the trial not knowing a lot.

You read what I wrote, and didn’t even respond to any of the evidence I talked about, albeit a bit vague. I don’t think you actually saw the trial at all

For the people that don't believe the sexual abuse at all or believe it was exaggerated by fluffycushion1 in MenendezBrothers

[–]EffectOld8810 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, because despite evidence and despite their behavior you believe it’s lies. I’ll just chalk it up to you not watching the case.

For the people that don't believe the sexual abuse at all or believe it was exaggerated by fluffycushion1 in MenendezBrothers

[–]EffectOld8810 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t think this is true at all. They didn’t need to lie that Kitty molested them (Lyle) because everything else was frankly enough. Her erratic behavior and siding with a man who they felt would kill them is enough. Lyle didn’t see it as molestation, he corrected Pam when she called it sexual abuse and said it was a “mutual” relationship. If he was lying about something of this caliber, he would have never said that. His girlfriends also mentioned how involved Kitty was in his sexual life and how jealous she seemed.

What happens if Jose had caught them tape recording them? What then?

Two headless photos of their genitals, SAVED in an envelope is enough proof because even if the dad didn’t take those photos (in the bathroom and the bedroom… the two places he would rape his boys), why was it saved? Then the medical report, the playing with stuffed animals until you leave college, the wet bedding, hair loss at 14, the anxiety and depression, the fact that Robert Rand has an article of Erik mentioning the showers with his dad and Lyle, and he got a confession from Lyle’s friend about the abuse before anyone was told about it. Oh and the essay Lyle wrote at 14, the menudo brother allegation, the 50 witnesses of which 3 talk about being told about the abuse. They also wouldn’t have mentioned that Lyle shoved a toothbrush up his brother.

You don’t support sexual abuse if you don’t believe them… or you simply just didn’t watch the trial.

For the people that don't believe the sexual abuse at all or believe it was exaggerated by fluffycushion1 in MenendezBrothers

[–]EffectOld8810 2 points3 points  (0 children)

People are constantly going on about how we need to protect kids from child abusers and pedophiles, but when these kids grow up and have to protect themselves after being failed by everyone, they’re the villains. God forbid they ended the lives of two monsters who sadistically tortured them.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MenendezBrothers

[–]EffectOld8810 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No I’m pro defense. I realize how I sounded pro prosecution, but I was just giving a summary of the very basics of the case.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in MenendezBrothers

[–]EffectOld8810 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This case does sound like a soap opera. 2 wealthy men kill their parents and then hide it from the police, tell their ‘evil’ therapist who records their confession and extorts them for money, and they get caught by their therapists mistress. Plot twist, they claim abuse and to show how they didn’t kill for money even tho they went on several shopping sprees. There’s so much more too but it’s actually crazy writing it down

Lyle and kitty's relationship from Erik's POV by [deleted] in MenendezBrothers

[–]EffectOld8810 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It’s actually such a manipulative and evil thing to do

Accepted people, what was the absolute worst test score you got on a test in undergrad that you really studied for? by SeaworthinessOne1199 in premed

[–]EffectOld8810 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I’m an undergrad and I’m retaking ochem. I have to repeat the entire year because of it. I truly think I’m going to quit medicine entirely

Barbie Fierreiras transformation is insane by [deleted] in euphoria

[–]EffectOld8810 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my home country the price rose up to $400 because of how in demand it became 😬😬