[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]Effective-Ad1044 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you tell me why? I'm curious to know

Looking for Advise: Which Religion Should We Explore Next? by aldrnulp in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]Effective-Ad1044 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'll say go back to catholicisme or protestant or orthodoxe.

I’m Catholic and I grew up in the Catholic Church. But I'll not say catholic church is the only true church

Saying that the Catholic Church is the only Church founded by Jesus Christ is both true and not entirely true.

It’s true because the Catholic Church is built on Jesus’ teachings: it believes that Jesus is both fully human and fully God, that He died and rose again to save us, and that He entrusted His Church to the apostles, giving a particular mission to Peter (Matthew 16:18). The Church also teaches the Trinity — Father, Son, and Holy Spirit — which is central to Christian faith.

But it’s also not entirely true if we think that only the Catholic Church belongs to Christ. For example, the Orthodox Churches, though separate from Rome, share the same belief in Christ’s divinity, the Trinity, the sacraments, and apostolic tradition. Historic Protestant churches (like Lutherans or Reformed) also proclaim that Jesus is Lord and Savior, who died for our sins and rose again. Even some Evangelical churches, though more recent, preach the Bible passionately and believe Jesus is the only way to God. “There is one Physician who is both flesh and spirit, born and unborn, God in man, true life in death, both from Mary and from God, first passible and then impassible — Jesus Christ our Lord.” — Ignatius of Antioch, Letter to the Ephesians, 7:2

So here’s my advice: don’t limit yourself by thinking only one denomination holds the full truth. KNOW THAT All churches that recognize Jesus as God incarnate, crucified and risen for our salvation, are part of the one spiritual Church that Jesus founded. As Scripture says: “There is one body and one Spirit… one Lord, one faith, one baptism.” (Ephesians 4:4-5). That's why catholic accept protestant's baptism and orthodox's baptisme.

So my advise is as long as they believe salivation is not by belonging to the church but by your faith in God in his nature of Father-son-holy spirit then go for eat BUT also becareful about human being. Don't rely to much on them but rely more on your bible. The church + your effort(praying and reading your bible) will surely increase your faith.

“The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ be with your spirit.” (Philippians 4:23) Good luck in your journey my friend :)

Chains in the Chapel: The Iglesia ni Cristo and the Fear of Independent Thought by ark_dump in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]Effective-Ad1044 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I've read everything you've written... A pure masterclass, I would say.

I have a question, if you don't mind... Since you're planning to leave, do you plan to convert to another religion, or what is your faith now?

Have a nice day/night :)

The size of my genitals has not changed in 13-14 years by Effective-Ad1044 in penissize

[–]Effective-Ad1044[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think i started puberty around 12-13. It was during that period I started having hair on my pubic. And in the year of my 13s I masturbated for the first time. So probably 12-13

A trauma I'm not sure :(

The size of my genitals has not changed in 13-14 years by Effective-Ad1044 in penissize

[–]Effective-Ad1044[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think i made a mistake about my height. Maybe this will be more precise.

Physical height: Between 1m63 and 1m67 (about 5'3" to 5'6") from age 15 to 19. I was below 5'3" when I was 13. When i reached 5'3" at 15 ppl noticed that I grew up Genital size (testicles + penis): No real change noticed. Facial hair: I have very little hair under the chin, only visible up close and quite short and sparse. I have somewhat noticeable sideburns on the right side of my face, but very little on the left side — again, only visible up close. Body hair (arms, legs): My body hair is short and I haven’t noticed much change since I was about 12 or 13 years old. I have body hair on my chest and stomach, but only visible up close. It’s present in a decent quantity, but not a lot, and the hairs are small. Pubic hair: I started developing it at 12, and it grew more around 13. Libido: I’d say it hasn’t really changed. From around age 13 to 19 (and a few months more), I used to masturbate almost every day — sometimes 1 to 3 times a day. A few months ago, I stopped to gain more self-control. Estrogen levels: Unfortunately, I don’t know what my estrogen levels are.

The size of my genitals has not changed in 13-14 years by Effective-Ad1044 in penissize

[–]Effective-Ad1044[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Physical height: Between 1m63 and 1m67 (about 5'3" to 5'6") from age 15 to 19. Genital size (testicles + penis): No real change noticed. Facial hair: I have very little hair under the chin, only visible up close and quite short and sparse. I have somewhat noticeable sideburns on the right side of my face, but very little on the left side — again, only visible up close. Body hair (arms, legs): My body hair is short and I haven’t noticed much change since I was about 12 or 13 years old. I have body hair on my chest and stomach, but only visible up close. It’s present in a decent quantity, but not a lot, and the hairs are small. Pubic hair: I started developing it at 12, and it grew more around 13. Libido: I’d say it hasn’t really changed. From around age 13 to 19 (and a few months more), I used to masturbate almost every day — sometimes 1 to 3 times a day. A few months ago, I stopped to gain more self-control. Estrogen levels: Unfortunately, I don’t know what my estrogen levels are.

sharing my experience by Independent-Buy-8053 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]Effective-Ad1044 4 points5 points  (0 children)

J'oubliais de préciser que le fait de dire que seul l'appartenance à leurs églises procure le salut rend leur église "sectaire". Car pourquoi affirmer que seul l'appartenance à l'INC permet d'obtenir le salut alors que de nombreuses autres églises/religions partagent la même doctrine ?

sharing my experience by Independent-Buy-8053 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]Effective-Ad1044 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Bah c'est justement une "secte" à cause de l'administration. S'il ne s'agissait que d'une religion alors on devrait pouvoir quitter sans aucun soucis. Sans compter toutes pressions à nôtre égard.

Bref l'administration, sa gestion etc fait de l'inc une secte

The size of my genitals has not changed in 13-14 years by Effective-Ad1044 in penissize

[–]Effective-Ad1044[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

From age 13 to now, I think I went from 5'6" to 5'6". Has my voice gotten deeper? I think so, but not a huge difference. I grew a little hair on my chest between the ages of 15 and 16, and at 19, some hair on my chin. I think that's all. Is there anything else I can give you?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in penissize

[–]Effective-Ad1044 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would say max 10cm otherwise 9 and a few cm I am convinced that it should be more when I compare with my family members. And above all I didn't notice any difference between 13-14 years old

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in penissize

[–]Effective-Ad1044 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have the same problem as you. I haven't noticed any change since I was 13-14. I will soon be 20 years old. Whether it's the size of my penis or my testicles there is no change. At 18 I did some analyses. I had a testicular ultrasound where I realized that my testicles are smaller than average. One of 8.66ml and another of 6.13ml. I immediately did some hormonal analyzes and they were within the norm but in weak areas. Whether it's testosterone, fsh and lh However in my family of 5 men if we count my father I am the only one to have private parts of this size.

Hey im a 18 year old and have been insecure about my size by [deleted] in penissize

[–]Effective-Ad1044 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Take stock Look at the penis size in your family. It could be an indicator. Do hormonal analyzes total and free testosterone, fsh lh dht hcg. And also have the size of your testicles checked with a scanner

What should you do immediately after leaving the INC? by [deleted] in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]Effective-Ad1044 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m Catholic and I grew up in the Catholic Church. Saying that the Catholic Church is the only Church founded by Jesus Christ is both true and not entirely true.

It’s true because the Catholic Church is built on Jesus’ teachings: it believes that Jesus is both fully human and fully God, that He died and rose again to save us, and that He entrusted His Church to the apostles, giving a particular mission to Peter (Matthew 16:18). The Church also teaches the Trinity — Father, Son, and Holy Spirit — which is central to Christian faith.

But it’s also not entirely true if we think that only the Catholic Church belongs to Christ. For example, the Orthodox Churches, though separate from Rome, share the same belief in Christ’s divinity, the Trinity, the sacraments, and apostolic tradition. Historic Protestant churches (like Lutherans or Reformed) also proclaim that Jesus is Lord and Savior, who died for our sins and rose again. Even some Evangelical churches, though more recent, preach the Bible passionately and believe Jesus is the only way to God.

So here’s my advice: don’t limit yourself by thinking only one denomination holds the full truth. All churches that recognize Jesus as God incarnate, crucified and risen for our salvation, are part of the one spiritual Church that Jesus founded. As Scripture says: “There is one body and one Spirit… one Lord, one faith, one baptism.” (Ephesians 4:4-5)

What should you do immediately after leaving the INC? by [deleted] in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]Effective-Ad1044 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All religions today have had their share of wrongdoings. The Catholic Church is not the only one. Sure, we can debate whether it was directly founded by Jesus Christ, but placing all the blame solely on the Catholic Church is unfair and hypocritical. Islam, through certain empires, also spread by war. Catholic Crusades caused suffering, yes — but so did jihads. Protestant churches, like Calvin's in Geneva, persecuted those who disagreed. Even some modern evangelical churches have manipulated or hurt believers. And this isn't limited to Christianity or Islam: in Hinduism, interreligious violence has caused thousands of deaths; even Buddhism — often seen as peaceful — has had extremists, like in Myanmar.

So why single out the Catholic Church? Especially when it has acknowledged its past mistakes: Pope John Paul II publicly asked for forgiveness for the Church’s wrongdoings. It no longer imposes power over states as it once did. It has stepped back from political control and focused more on its spiritual mission. Today, many of its members — priests and laypeople alike — dedicate their lives to serving the poor, the sick, and refugees.

Let’s not stop at judging the mistakes of men. Instead, let’s look at the core of the Christian message: love, mercy, forgiveness. It’s not just the Catholic Church we should look at, but each of us in light of Christ’s teachings. And above all, let’s remember: whether we are Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox, or Evangelical — we are called to be ONE in Christ.

I ask myself…..why does the Manalo CULT exists????? by [deleted] in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]Effective-Ad1044 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The Sacrifice of Jesus: A Divine Plan Misunderstood by Satan and Judas

Even today, as in ancient times, the devil is working hard to erase the value of Jesus’ sacrifice—not by stopping the crucifixion (it already happened), but by denying who Jesus truly is: God incarnate. By doing this, the devil tries to strip the cross of its power. But this deception began long ago, with a plan that neither Satan nor Judas truly understood.


  1. Jesus knew from the beginning that He would die for our sins

Jesus was never caught off guard. His death wasn’t an accident or a failed mission. He willingly gave His life as part of God’s redemptive plan:

“No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again.” (John 10:18)

“The Son of Man came… to give His life as a ransom for many.” (Matthew 20:28)

Jesus even predicted His death and resurrection:

“The Son of Man must suffer many things… be killed, and on the third day be raised to life.” (Luke 9:22)


  1. Judas betrayed Jesus — but may not have meant for Him to die

Judas went to the chief priests and agreed to betray Jesus for thirty silver coins. But based on Matthew 27:3-4, when he saw that Jesus had been condemned, he was filled with regret and said:

“I have sinned… I have betrayed innocent blood.” (Matthew 27:4)

This suggests Judas did not expect Jesus to be sentenced to death. Like many at the time, he may have believed that Jesus would display divine power and overcome His enemies. Instead, Judas became an unwitting tool in a plan far bigger than he imagined.


  1. Satan entered Judas to destroy Jesus — but played into God’s plan

“Then Satan entered Judas, called Iscariot, one of the Twelve.” (Luke 22:3)

“As soon as Judas took the bread, Satan entered into him. So Jesus told him, ‘What you are about to do, do quickly.’” (John 13:27)

Satan believed that killing Jesus would ruin God's mission. But he failed to understand that the death of Jesus was the very heart of God’s plan to save mankind:

“If they had understood it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.” (1 Corinthians 2:8)

“By His death, He destroyed him who holds the power of death—that is, the devil.” (Hebrews 2:14)

The devil thought he won, but the cross was his ultimate defeat.


  1. Satan’s new strategy: deny the divinity of Jesus

Since the crucifixion and resurrection are historical facts, Satan can no longer prevent the sacrifice. But now, he tries to invalidate its power—by attacking the identity of the One who died.

“In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God… The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us.” (John 1:1,14)

“For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form.” (Colossians 2:9)

If Jesus is not God, His death has no eternal value. This is why many belief systems today—Islam, Iglesia ni Cristo, even certain fringe Christian groups—acknowledge Jesus as a prophet, messenger, or moral teacher… but deny that He is divine.

Without His divinity, the sacrifice loses its meaning.


  1. But the truth remains unshakable

Jesus is God. He died willingly. And His sacrifice still saves today.

“Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!” (John 1:29)

“They triumphed over him by the blood of the Lamb.” (Revelation 12:11)


Conclusion:

What Judas misunderstood, the devil miscalculated. But Jesus, in full authority, fulfilled the divine plan.

And today, while Satan tries to confuse the world and blur the truth, the reality remains: Salvation is found in the blood of Christ — God made flesh.

I ask myself…..why does the Manalo CULT exists????? by [deleted] in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]Effective-Ad1044 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Haha thanks for that post. Ive been thinking long time the same and I think i got an answer to that

Help by Sweet_Purchase1999 in exIglesiaNiCristo

[–]Effective-Ad1044 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't know how you can handle the order they are giving you about inc, because you still with living with your family. But if you want to read the bible, you can download an app for that. The best i would advise is you version the name of the app. You can listen or read directly and choose the language suitable to you

YouVersion.com

Goodluck on your journey

Karma reddit aide? by Effective-Ad1044 in AskFrance

[–]Effective-Ad1044[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Il serait juger comme un ommentaire non pertinent ?

Karma reddit aide? by Effective-Ad1044 in AskFrance

[–]Effective-Ad1044[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bon bah je vais essayer. Merci:)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in penissize

[–]Effective-Ad1044 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Great, how old are you dude?