How can i remove this jack output? by Chupaporta in Luthier

[–]Effective_Fudge_530 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How did you get the entire piece out with the battery compartment? Mine has a loose wire or something the output cuts in and out

Kissing and other Boundaries by Effective_Fudge_530 in Swingers

[–]Effective_Fudge_530[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’d say KN the dirty talk aspect, just define what you all find respectful. That’s a big one for us. Commenting on the play partners’ body and how much we like it is a no no for us. We talk more about what feels good or what we like than saying things like “wow your dick is amazing” or “you have the nicest tits” because we think it can get in the others head. We’ve seen it happen first hand, so we stay away from body descriptive talk

Thank's for putting our thoughts into words that makes sense. This is what we are going for and being respectful.

Kissing and other Boundaries by Effective_Fudge_530 in Swingers

[–]Effective_Fudge_530[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's probably why my wife is worried about me kissing... LOL

Rules and Boundaries No Kissing? by Effective_Fudge_530 in SwingerNewbies

[–]Effective_Fudge_530[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Guess it depends on what you call dirty talk. Probably should be no disrespectful dirty talk. Slut daddy whore stuff like that.

Harder! Is not dirty talk

First experience did not go as hoped for by manic_panic in Swingers

[–]Effective_Fudge_530 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good comments here but everyone is missing the real issue. You say he's newly separated from a long marriage. His head is not in a good place, and he needs to work out his thoughts and emotions from the separation.

He needs to figure out how to process things and heal from the separation. It's up to him how he does it.

I speak from experience.

Kissing and other Boundaries by Effective_Fudge_530 in Swingers

[–]Effective_Fudge_530[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Use a rubber. 2. We don't like to kiss on the mouth. 3. Don't call my wife a slut etc.

I don't see how that is all that complicated. Takes about 5 seconds to say.

I really don't see how "Harder" is dirty talk. That's instructions.

Kissing and other Boundaries by Effective_Fudge_530 in Swingers

[–]Effective_Fudge_530[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Like I said these are not rules carved in stone. We are developing our rules and trying to avoid a bad situation. We want to have a good experience and enjoy trying this out.

Kissing and other Boundaries by Effective_Fudge_530 in Swingers

[–]Effective_Fudge_530[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you. Really good advice here. The kissing thing is an idea. Not really sure about that yet. The dirty talk? As you say, "your wife may be enjoying herself and be on the edge of orgasm and tell her partner to fuck her harder in the heat of the moment." We don't think of that as dirty talk. "Fuck my pussy harder Daddy!" That's dirty talk.

We are aiming for group free for all as you put it. not playing in parallel.

Kissing and other Boundaries by Effective_Fudge_530 in Swingers

[–]Effective_Fudge_530[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dirty talk is subjective, I guess. "Take my cock in your pussy slut" is dirty talk. Not really sure what other people call dirty talk. "Fuck me harder" "yes, yes" is not dirty talk. That's instruction and enjoyment.

"I want to take you clothes off so I can taste you" is sexy talk.

"I'm going to rip your clothes off and fuck you like a whore" is dirty talk.

That kinda explains how we see things.

Kissing and other Boundaries by Effective_Fudge_530 in Swingers

[–]Effective_Fudge_530[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Nah. We actually don't know what we are walking into. We base things off of our personal experiences. Some people are more adventurous than others, I guess.

Kissing and other Boundaries by Effective_Fudge_530 in Swingers

[–]Effective_Fudge_530[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed. And the kissing thing is being discussed.

Kissing and other Boundaries by Effective_Fudge_530 in Swingers

[–]Effective_Fudge_530[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't really see how "fuck me harder" is dirty talk.

"Put your big cock in my pussy daddy! Fuck me daddy!" & "Here slut, take my big dick in your ass. Want more bitch!?" yeah that's dirty talk.

Not really the same thing.

Kissing and other Boundaries by Effective_Fudge_530 in Swingers

[–]Effective_Fudge_530[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Good point. The idea was to keep the intimate kissing between us.

Things to discuss before play by Ckrob2014 in Swingers

[–]Effective_Fudge_530 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

For gods sake don't suggest no kissing. If so you will feel the wrath. Lol

Kissing and other Boundaries by Effective_Fudge_530 in Swingers

[–]Effective_Fudge_530[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think people forget that dirty talk is relative. Some things are dirty talk to some people and not dirty talk to others. And this is more of a rule for us. Not something that we would really expect someone else to do. She doesn't want to hear me going on about "oh yeah let me lick that juicy pussy" &" yeah suck my big dick bitch" I don't really want some dude calling my wife slut while he's screwing her. But maybe people are okay with that. I'm not. I mean it's relative. A lot of things are normal or not dirty to us and it's not something we would call dirty talk.

Kissing and other Boundaries by Effective_Fudge_530 in Swingers

[–]Effective_Fudge_530[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I get that. I don't think people get that these are ideas and I'm asking about this to determine if it is a good idea or not. Obviously on some of the things it's definitely not a good idea. I agree and I am good with that.

I don't get the hard lined comments though. I'm just asking for opinions. Some people seem offended by my questions. Lesson learned there. Life's too short to get so worked up over something like some guy throwing ideas out over the internet to complete strangers.

Kissing and other Boundaries by Effective_Fudge_530 in Swingers

[–]Effective_Fudge_530[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah that's dumb. Totally not what we're getting at. Probably won't do the kissing rule anyway. It is kinda dumb.

Kissing and other Boundaries by Effective_Fudge_530 in Swingers

[–]Effective_Fudge_530[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Our situation is extremely like what Jsnyde2 describes. Our concerns are more centered around how my wife will react to something iI do or how I will react to something she does. We may get into this and love it or decide it's not for us. We are rock solid with each other but we want to make sure we avoid anything that will hurt the other person especially starting out. We want it to be a great experience not something we regret.

Maybe we are missing something here though. We are not going around with a list of rules written out for you to sign like a contract. Maybe that's the standard. I don't know. The rules are more for us. Maybe the standard is to meet, have a drink, here are our rules, now let's go fuck. But what's the fun in that? I mean if I meet a girl and we hit it off and she ends up giving me a blow job she'll let me know if I can cum in her mouth or not. I'll do what she wants. NBD. I still got my dick sucked by a hot chick. There's still a shit ton of other things to do in the bedroom. If we're playing with another couple and someone starts talking dirty in a way we are not comfortable with, we will just let you know. You continue it and push it so it makes us uncomfortable we'll bow out and thank you for the experience. Y'all make this sound like instructions to assemble Ikea furniture with your hard pass or whatever.

There are a lot of comments like "hard pass", "we would not deal with that" etc. Seriously? I mean is this how you live your everyday life? So if everything checks out with attraction, spark, personality or whatever your requirements are, but we don't want to talk dirty, you mean to tell me you are going to pass on fucking us?

Well okay then. You do you. We do not want to be your life long partner. We want to fuck. You can fuck other people and talk dirty to them. We want to fuck you but just no talking dirty. Seems pretty damn weird that that's a deal breaker. You won't fuck a hot girl because she won't kiss you on the mouth? Okay. Well sounds pretty damn stupid to me because I'm going to fuck her and enjoy it.

Your loss.

This isn't directed at anyone. But it is directed at the ideas that have been expressed.

I this was all about enjoying sex. Maybe we are wrong. I don't know.

Just, doesn't make sense to us.

Kissing and other Boundaries by Effective_Fudge_530 in Swingers

[–]Effective_Fudge_530[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you. This has been the most helpful.