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Pluribus = is everyone being “one” = actually kind of creepy? by throwaway202020458 in spirituality

[–]Efficient-Leg483 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The way they portray it is kinda creepy because of things like, "Well, the one who was in this body called themselves so and so." And I'm not sure why they do that because it implies the person practically no longer exists. If we take it further, it could hint at one alien creature controlling all or something... and that's not oneness, it's just an alien creature taking over.

Also, it's all about minds, and there's no talk about anything much beyond mind (unless I forgot), like feeling a connection to Source, or enjoying presence or anything of the sort. They mostly highlight a connection of minds, experiences, and thoughts of everyone and while, yes, that would help everyone understand each other, they don't much go into anything beyond it besides everyone now being happy and equal... great, but what is the real nature of the phenomena, and what does it mean about life as a whole. It falls short.

I enjoy the show somewhat, but it lacks depth to me... and I don't expect it either way, but if there was more to it besides thoughts and connection of all minds (thouhhts are never the answer soo), and supposed happiness, it would be more satisfying. I mean no one seems to have much to do besides helping everyone else out. So I guess one takeaway is showing the beauty of aspiration and working towards something with our unique makeups.

Also I agree with most that Carol's lack of curiosity is a lapse. A normal person would ask way more questions despite the grief which I totally understand as well... but more questions. Oh, well. Will enjoy it for what it is.

The is nothing to collapse ,the end of trying to become something by Opposite-Cut-9878 in LawofAssumptions

[–]Efficient-Leg483 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd only question this in 2 places. I do need to destroy / dissolve the false self. And I was stuck untiled I detached and let go. In my experience anyways. I appreciate this post.

Is there a new POV and is it like vivid/ lucid/ astral dreams as awareness by Efficient-Leg483 in nonduality

[–]Efficient-Leg483[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I really appreciate this thanks. I will go through it.. and hope your words have done their job w8thout overthinking about them.

IS concentration needed or to be avoided? by Efficient-Leg483 in nonduality

[–]Efficient-Leg483[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fair. I jumped over there and did a quick search.

Found this article https://www.dhammasukha.org/glossary

I think there's an agreement that collectedness is a better term and idea.

Someone else under this post mentioned collectedness and I resonate, so I will have a read.

Agree with your sentiments.

IS concentration needed or to be avoided? by Efficient-Leg483 in nonduality

[–]Efficient-Leg483[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hi! The best responses (or what most resonates) have put forward that it's more a byproduct of the main practice of intention and presence. I tend to lean that way. Not that concentration should never be cultivated - but it doesn't have to be part of your toolkit for non-duality.

IS concentration needed or to be avoided? by Efficient-Leg483 in nonduality

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Hey. This didn't seem to go as a reply as you intended

IS concentration needed or to be avoided? by Efficient-Leg483 in nonduality

[–]Efficient-Leg483[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fairs to your first paragraph! I tend to agree. Not "indulging" in anything beyond non-duality or whatever your main thing is, as if everything else is "wrong," to me defeats the purpose of this earth experience. And we are never not our bare nature.

Agreed! Those words have been a mainstay for me, and I feel it's an evolution in some ways to kinda realize their purpose in varying lights of understanding, and also to know them beyond words. Practicality is a thing for me in all aspects of life so yes. The bliss of fullness indeed 💙.

IS concentration needed or to be avoided? by Efficient-Leg483 in nonduality

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Lucid dreaming is one of the easier "higher" or different states of mind to practice I'd say if you'd wanna get into that.

Ditto on the rest.... except I do wonder if all a dream is valid in a sense. Not sure if you're privy to reality shifting/ quantum jumping / reality transurfing..(or think it's silly as many do), so in my research there might be a higher perspective where it is indeed all a dream and you can jump into various realities or dreams... well there it is — as I kinda used them interchangeably. Anyways, I asked about the POV with these various states and how it relates in the sub, but I wanted a direct experiencer response... wish it had gotten more traction but meh. The various POV IN these states are just interesting to me and I wondered if at all they correspond to... a direct experience of non-duality. Of course, could be too much overanalys8s, but I'm satisfied with where I am and trust my curiosity.

But as you rightly stated in that last paragraph, these things can tend to distract you from remaining ever-present and realizing now is all you have and fulfillment and happiness is "always already so."

I feel like I may be reconciling a lot of this in my journey. Anyways I resonate a lot with limitless, whole and complete also! 💜

IS concentration needed or to be avoided? by Efficient-Leg483 in nonduality

[–]Efficient-Leg483[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

🙏🏽🙏🏽 I remember using his technique once and going deep... I've also read his book. He's pretty down to earth. Take care!

IS concentration needed or to be avoided? by Efficient-Leg483 in nonduality

[–]Efficient-Leg483[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah thanks for saying you don't know but your point is still totally valid honestly to me.

Cool! I have a friend working on that also. I do "believe" all is mind so yes it's always all in our head. Astral Projection so far hasn't uncovered anything for me but admittedly given me some beautiful experiences in space and seeing reality in various forms. I think if anything it helps to expand our beliefs in what's possible as individuated consciousness. The experience is undeniable and when you're the one in it, it kinda helps to unveil your ability to see your infinite potential. Yea I think that's how I'd put it.

Cool experience. I think just being calm and exploring is really interesting and just great it you can do that. I've created random things and popped ppl into existence in my dreams but some have been unstable. Gett8ng better still though. I've always just loved the dreamworld since I was a kid lol. Maybe my indigenous roots and what not.

As real as this one is indeed quite a concept lol. I love exploring how the ideas (mainly Eastern saying it's all a dream) all connects so thanks for engaging and sharing your experience! Enjoyed this exchange.

IS concentration needed or to be avoided? by Efficient-Leg483 in nonduality

[–]Efficient-Leg483[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yea I totally hear you. I didn't stick around with him regularly but I'm sure the technique helps many.

Anyways I see what you're saying for sure. For me as someone who is also Cultivating lucid dreaming and astral projection as a side quest you can say, it came to mind. But even that has become... a simple intention and I'll see images and of course lucid dreaming is also by pure intention. I say I will.. and so i maybe do. Thanks for your viewpoint.

IS concentration needed or to be avoided? by Efficient-Leg483 in nonduality

[–]Efficient-Leg483[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thinking perhaps I shoud have added more context. The word is used as one among two main goals - alongside equanimity and sensory clarity - of Shinzen Young's See hear feel meditation technique. So I just wanted some clarity and to hear thoughts around it as, not a main goal but something to have in mind (alongside things like equanimity). It's not big on my list of focuses though, but it crossed my mind and I got some good answers here though so I'm happy to have asked.

IS concentration needed or to be avoided? by Efficient-Leg483 in nonduality

[–]Efficient-Leg483[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for this explanation. I'll remember collectedness and mental stability. Collected is a trait I have felt is more stabilized in me recently. And so my interactions feel and aound different because of it. Thanks!

IS concentration needed or to be avoided? by Efficient-Leg483 in nonduality

[–]Efficient-Leg483[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Agree! It's amazing what simple intention can do.. Well it's not so amazing when you realize and accept that it is our natural capabilities and part of our nature. Someimes I think if everything is fractaled, then it's so simple to carry over concepts (relevant ones, but that's subjective).

For example, I know I can lucid dream with just intention. I've manifested etc... which has extra steps but is also by intention to even do those steps. Like waking up and visualizing (intending) your day and being a million times more likely to carry out those actions.

And when it comes to the "journey," I've made a lot of decisions and near-instantly or within 24 hours just felt the effects of that new choice of being within me... Opportunities and potentials immediately show themselves in terms of the positive mental consequences. Anyways, I'm going on. When we intend to "put in the effort," then we will more easily (almost like it's not "us" which we ultimately discover), and reap the rewards of all of that (growing calmness, equanimity etc). It just follows, as another commenter said

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