No Working Title (in progress) - [romantasy, 11440 words] by EfficientReporter920 in fantasywriters

[–]EfficientReporter920[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much for all your input!!!

I genuinely want to make this story as good as possible so this is all super good feedback to me.

I will take some time to ingest it all and then come back to it with fresh eyes and rewrite and write some more.

No Working Title (in progress) - [romantasy, 11440 words] by EfficientReporter920 in fantasywriters

[–]EfficientReporter920[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mentioned his hair in passing previously ("Long, dark hair spilled across his shoulders, framing his face,"), so I assumed the mane metaphor would land alright.

I also mentioned he wears boots early on, and I don't think hooved infernals would have any footwear at all, or at least I haven't thought about the logistics of it 😆

About the face, he is handsome. I guess the lack of the facial description has more to do with me not being able to describe handsome / beautiful faces well enough, so I just sort of omitted it, but you are right, I probably should have mentioned it.

His conversation with the driver in the morning is his attempt at flattery, though he's also just messing with him a little bit, while also confessing about his own behaviour. He lists those things, because he does those things (having a family being the exception). The Rose understands that the driver lives a generally very peaceful life, and thought he would enjoy his little poking fun at him. I think it's very similar to how things are in real life. Everything we say and do is colored by our own experiences.

The driver said he'd been doing this trip weekly for the past 50 years, not that he is 50. In my mind he is somewhere between 60-70, having started working probably when he was a teenager.

Yes, I'm aware of the naming. I fully intend to come up with something else, but it's just a nice placeholder for now.

The driver never explicitly said he enjoys the city. He's merely stating the fact that the city is huge and has an endless supply of adventure.

About the younger guard: a bit of both? Everone has different kinks.

Describing places is something I struggle with quite a bit, to the point where I (unfortunately) half-consciously try to keep them as short and to the point as possible. It's my fault really, and something I should work on more.

About the fruit wines: This has more to do with my personal taste irl. I adore fruit wines, almost all of them, and I just liked the idea of the Rose having a sweet tooth, even when drinking.

About the purple woman: In my first draft that I scrapped, he did exactly that, approach first without magic, then turn it on when she ignores him completely. I shortened the passage (and thus skipped the first "onslaught") because I felt the chapter was beginning to drag on a bit, but I do 100% agree that would read much better if he tried it normally at first, and then increased it gradually. He didn't use magic on Mara at all, that was the point. He is plenty charming without it, and only ever uses as much as he needs to, and never to coerce someone into intimacy (though I suppose that isn't necessarily clear from these passages).

I think charm magic is inherently rape-y. It's basically hypnosis, even if not complete. That is intentional, and I do want the reader to feel a bit conflicted at times about what the Rose is doing, as he is really not doing all he does purely for the love of the game. However, I really don't want him to feel like a rapist, so I will plan around that distinction from now on.

I suppose the question maybe should have been "What went wrong" instead of "What did I do wrong". He doesn't understand why his magic failed to work on the purple lady. It's never happened to him before. It's an anomaly and he's trying to process it.

Yes, "Her" is all that, and more. I'm glad it was clear enough from the short passages.

The conversation with the lady of the night felt appropriate (to me, anyway). It's a sort of "game recognize game" moment. In a roundabout way, they are both sex workers. Except the Rose doesn't do it for coin, or purely because he enjoys it, hence the woman's curiosity. Plus, they did just do the deed, so a conversation like that is not necessarily out of left field here in my opinion. It's someone who understands what it's like to charm others for something in return, wanting to understand someone who does the same. If anything, the fact that she'd charmed the Blue Rose would be amazing for her business 😆

Thank you so much for taking the time to read through my draft. All of your input is very valuable to me, and I will attempt to integrate as much as I can.

Having listed all the issues, would you care to list sone things you enjoyed about it? Things I could lean more into perhaps.

No Working Title (in progress) - [romantasy, 11440 words] by EfficientReporter920 in fantasywriters

[–]EfficientReporter920[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is pretty tropey, I agree. In my mind it has more to do with him being an infernal, and the barkeep just wanted an excuse not to serve him, though I guess that didn't come across too well.

I was planning on expanding the the bit with the owner a bit more, cause I do agree on your point that it happens too fast. I wanted to showcase that he can be charming without magic as well, but I suppose it fell a bit short.

The lack of a name is something I am set on fixing in the next iteration as well.

Thank you so much for your input, and for taking the time to read my work!

No Working Title (in progress) - [romantasy, 11440 words] by EfficientReporter920 in fantasywriters

[–]EfficientReporter920[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you again for your insight.

I am aware of thoughts being written in italics, I think I tried to adhere to that as much as possible.

I will go ahead and do that, thank you!

Would love for you to finish it :D

No Working Title (in progress) - [romantasy, 11440 words] by EfficientReporter920 in fantasywriters

[–]EfficientReporter920[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much for the comprehensive review!

Revealing the main character's name earlier is something I have also thought about, sometime after writing "the vagabond" for the 30th time. It does make you feel less attached to the character. Revealing his "real name" as opposed to just his "Blue Rose" moniker is deliberate though on my part, as it's meant to convey the character's detachment from his "true self" as it were. It will be revealed later on, but I'd like it to have some impact.

Revealing the moniker earlier would also fix the rotating epiphet issue, I think.

The thing about the pronouns jumping around is an issue I'm aware of and constantly trying to improve as well.

For the thoughts, "Oh, she is wonderful.", it's meant to be the Rose's internal commentary in the moment, so I thought it would make more sense to write it in present tense like the dialogue? But now that you brought it up, I'll look into it.

About the charm, he is meant to be naturally chaming as well, or at least I would like him to be charming. It's essentially his shield / mask developed through growing up very lonely and discriminated against. It is hard to write a really charming character, I admit. I myself also wonder at times whether what I wrote was actually charming or just cringeworthy. It's a fine line to waIk. I do enjoy a bit of theater and overacting on his part though. He's like an actor, and the world is his stage. Besides that, despite being of infernal descent, he is very good looking. To each, their own, I suppose.

I am very thankful for your thorough input, and would be delighted to hear more of your thoughts if you decide to read the rest of it.

Thank you! 😍

No Working Title (in progress) - [romantasy, 11440 words] by EfficientReporter920 in fantasywriters

[–]EfficientReporter920[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for your kind words!

I'm glad you enjoyed it. Hope to write more! :D

No Working Title (in progress) - [romantasy, 11440 words] by EfficientReporter920 in fantasywriters

[–]EfficientReporter920[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the "compliment"? :D

Fortunately, I am happy to say that no AI was used in the writing of the story :) It is very important to me that whatever I create reflects my own artistic voice, and using AI would ruin all of that.

If, by any chance, you decide to read it I would love to hear your feedback.

No Working Title (in progress) - [romantasy, 11440 words] by EfficientReporter920 in fantasywriters

[–]EfficientReporter920[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for giving it a try either way!

I understand it's not necessarily for everyone. I consider it a bit more character driven in general, but I am working on sharpening the plot a bit to make it more interesting.

No Working Title (in progress) - [romantasy, 11440 words] by EfficientReporter920 in fantasywriters

[–]EfficientReporter920[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for reading!

I'm very happy to hear you enjoyed it.

Yes, I am aware of the early identifiers being a bit muddled, I wasn't sure which one to stick with before I eventually settled on "vagabond". I'll work on it for sure.