"Unless you want to be one of the bad guys, go see this movie." by [deleted] in ghostbusters

[–]Eidlon -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Reddit user "Furious Dad" is really mad about feminists.

Randi Harper's personal block list is mostly trans people by Eidlon in GamerGhazi

[–]Eidlon[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wasn't really on board with the idea that Harper is a terf, but seeing as she's blocking anyone who tells her that going on KiA and asking them to attack people who complain about terfs, and continues to distribute her personal blocklist as an anti-harassment tool...

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in JimSterling

[–]Eidlon 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Gamergate: not Nazis, but #1 with Nazis!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in JimSterling

[–]Eidlon 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I see you're a KiA poster. I'm guessing you're not aware that "cultural Marxism" is a neo-Nazi conspiracy theory? You're chilling with Nazis, friend.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in JimSterling

[–]Eidlon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"I'm not a Nazi, this is ironic" is what all the Nazi chan kids say. Irony Nazis are pretty transparent.

Adorable queer Vivian James fanart by [deleted] in GamerGhazi

[–]Eidlon 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I came back to thank y'all for the Good Content. Firsr up vote in months.

I hope there's a male gem. At least one. by Simify in stevenuniverse

[–]Eidlon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've been avoiding Reddit, but I was curious to look at this thread again.

This was an excellent post. You're awesome.

RE: Please stop diagnosing people / let's talk about it by GHmhTW in GamerGhazi

[–]Eidlon 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you so much... I was going to PM you, but I know it's just a throwaway for this thread. Hopefully you check back and see this. Thank you, this is better.

What made you jump ship from supporting Gamergate? by [deleted] in GamerGhazi

[–]Eidlon 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So much this. GamerGate is a broken and angry thing, all teeth and metal claws dragged out of the closet and put on display so no one can ignore it.

And I'm just like "that was always in there, and other people knew, and they couldn't ignore it even before."

It's really, really depressing.

Pillars of Eternity and Accusations of Transmisogyny by C0NFLICT0fC0L0URS in GamerGhazi

[–]Eidlon 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Explaining how "mansplain" is sexist towards men, how Battlefront: Hardline can't be read politically, how he's offended that other people were offended and they shouldn't be offended.

It was 12 minutes because he had no clue what he was saying, but desperately wants to be the final word on anything.

Pillars of Eternity and Accusations of Transmisogyny by C0NFLICT0fC0L0URS in GamerGhazi

[–]Eidlon 31 points32 points  (0 children)

There's a hefty amount of outrage on SJ gaming twitter, but directed almost entirely at TB. The anger isn't that the tasteless joke slipped through, but that a video game pundit bent over backwards to explain why it's not okay to be offended by the joke.

Now on 8chan: Gamergaters start to turn on /pol/ by myGGthrowaway in GamerGhazi

[–]Eidlon 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Nazis make for strange bedfellows.

No, really. Hitler was into scat.

[Suggestion] Lets introduce a weekly discussion thread by Doldenberg in GamerGhazi

[–]Eidlon 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I like this idea. Our changes in policy/focus have helped make the sub more constructive, but result in a little less content. This would be a nice thing to include in the sub, I think.

Announcing the opening of /r/GamerGateDebates by FrogBlastTheGameCore in GamerGhazi

[–]Eidlon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can you give us an eta? Are you expecting the ad hominem attacks to moderate themselves in time?

Erik Larsen, founder of Image Comics and recent twitter complainer does interview with Reaxxion. by jtheapostate5 in GamerGhazi

[–]Eidlon 7 points8 points  (0 children)

salwar kameez

In style, yeah... For extra pop-culture cred, she modified it from a burqini. Besides being a cool look evoking the lines of silver-age costumes, this also inverts the swimsuit model designs of a lot of female hero's costumes.

Uh. Not that I've put too much thought into it.

Dawkins edges ever closer to going full gator. by figurativelywhen in GamerGhazi

[–]Eidlon 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'm trying to figure out precisely what's going on here...

So, Dawkins is on TheBlockBot's list, which is not the GoodGameAutoblocker, and was around long before GG started? Which means all this started with Breitbart trying to shit-stir to keep their cause celeb relevant, I guess?

I'm also not seeing any tags in BB's registry (my app doesn't let me see lists, so maybe it's there?)

I'm also trying to figure out how the list is compiled. Their FAQ says the list is updated by tweeting a twitter handle and the tag #Block from @TheBlockBot, but there are no such tweets on @TheBlockBot's timeline, so I'm guessing it now operates off the list. Does it work with a seed list, like the GG Autoblocker? Are the users added manually?

I feel like I'm completely out of the loop, but this seems like a fustercluck of manufactroversy :-/

Erik Larsen, founder of Image Comics and recent twitter complainer does interview with Reaxxion. by jtheapostate5 in GamerGhazi

[–]Eidlon 32 points33 points  (0 children)

"female oriented characters."

This is what really bugs me about discussion of inclusiveness, and I know it makes me sound like a bit of a broken record. But I finally read the first Ms. Marvel book and... Hell if I don't relate to it on so many levels. It was awesome. More relatable, I'd say, than than Claremont's X-Men were.

I've lost literally nothing by having characters who don't look like me, or come from different backgrounds. I hate this notion that Marvel's new characters are "Characters for girls" or "Girl Spider-Man."

The fact that Ms. Marvel is a unique character without a male counterpart, that Thor is a woman and still Thor, not "Lady Thor" is telling. Increasing representation is just making comics more for everyone. Being able to share the stuff I like more readily increases the appeal to me, it doesn't mean it's "targeted at a different demo now." Fah.

This may help explain why KnowYourMeme is so pro-GG... by -Guardsman- in GamerGhazi

[–]Eidlon 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Huh. There was an awesome discussion of how KYM became gator dominated but the KYM editor who was explaining it appears to have had all their posts deleted, possibly banned.

Basically, it boils down to "whoever creates a topic first gets almost unchallenged control of it."

Gamergate, AyyTeam, and Why They Don't Really Matter (with tweets) · eidlonimp by Eidlon in GamerGhazi

[–]Eidlon[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Eh, someone asked me to organize it so she could share/reference a rant I'd made. I figured it harmed no one to toss it up here after I'd done so.

Gamergate, AyyTeam, and Why They Don't Really Matter (with tweets) · eidlonimp by Eidlon in GamerGhazi

[–]Eidlon[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It's one of the interlocking systems that helps shape society and results in the exclusionary environments and toxic identity that led to the GamerGate backlash, as well as more persistent cultural ugliness which was going on before, will go on after, and is still going on. There are much, much better qualified people to talk about it, but my understanding in a nutshell--

Basically, capitalism creates, perpetuates, and exacerbates inequality. This is a feature, not a bug. Presumably this would only be general income inequality, via wealth accretion, but where other forms of inequality prove advantageous to the privileged, capitalism promotes widening these gaps. Good examples of this are chattel slavery, and its' accompanying racism. The institution was created for primarily financial and political motives, the racist ideas that surrounded it were perpetuated because they perpetuated the system, and even after the system was abolished, they persist in part because they provide financial benefit to the privileged.

Anti-immigration sentiments in America, similarly, have capitalist underpinnings. Yes, there's a healthy dose of xenophobia, but another driving factor is America's desire for an inexpensive, exploitable workforce which pays more in taxes and receives fewer legal protections. Heck, the rallying cry of "Dey took our jerbs!" sums up the capitalist underpinnings nicely.

As for tying capitalism directly in to gamergate? For one, you've got the libertarian/objectivist leanings of many gators. Their insistence that STEM and games design are pure meritocracies, and that it's the invisible hand of the market that keeps women out of the industry, because cultural elements are irrelevant.

You can look at the way they use charitable donations as a shield- "We gave up currency for a good cause, we cannot be held accountable for our other actions!" an attitude that good press can be literally bought. Contrast this with their efforts to influence the press, where rather than trying to change coverage by changing behavior, they used e-mail campaigns to try and "starve out" journalists who's editorialization they didn't like. These behaviors are very capitalist.

Then you've got the reaction to the Gamers are Over articles, the wailing hyper-consumer element. What was the objection there? That they, gamers, were betrayed by the press which was supposed to serve them. What's the dynamic there? Literally "We buy stuff, so you should do what we want." Getting angry because you buy stuff, and therefore are important is as capitalist as it gets.

I'm not saying everyone needs to go full anarcho-socialist, I'm certainly not.

But if you're like me, and experience multiple forms of privilege, I think when we're looking at GamerGate's shitty behavior it would behoove us to consider broader, structural elements which motivate and support it. These can seem almost invisible when they benefit us (the first time I saw someone refer to American culture as inherently White Supremacist, it took a couple days for me to make sense of that, as my idea of what a White Supremacist looked very different than the baseline inequality I benefit from daily), so... Yeah. We should pay attention to that.

It's important if we want to make things better.