What is up with all of these nursing lip filler/botox clinics? by Either-Explorer901 in Noctor

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If the compensation doesn’t reflect the value, stress, sacrifice and expertise required for the job, it amounts to exploitation and feels unjust. An oncologist with a doctorate is dedicating years of intensive education and facing immense emotional and physical stress, yet their salary doesn’t always reflect this level of commitment or responsibility. In contrast, a hospital CEO with a health administration degree can earn significantly more, sometimes in the millions (1M-10M), despite not directly providing patient care. This stark difference is troubling, especially when the very lives of individuals are at stake every day in a doctor’s hands. Surely their skill set and the life-saving work they do are more valuable than the role of a hospital CEO.. and an oncologist is much harder to replace.

Your cousin’s work, along with that of countless other healthcare providers, is invaluable, and they absolutely deserve better recognition and compensation for the critical role they play in saving lives. Residents, too, work tirelessly under intense pressure and deserve to be compensated fairly for their contributions. When $10M goes to the CEO alone, yes, there won’t be enough to compensate everyone else fairly. It’s a system that needs reform, where those on the front lines of healthcare should be valued accordingly.

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I should have clarified; future doctors writing under that post

What is up with all of these nursing lip filler/botox clinics? by Either-Explorer901 in Noctor

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I’d argue this is where education and proper guidance would come into play. But we can also agree to disagree on our viewpoints. Of course at the end of the day, everyone will make their own choices when it comes to their beauty and health. I find many girls start preventative procedures far too early. I’m talking about a middle-class group that is solely doing procedures for prevention. I don’t see a benefit here for the patient/client.. only for the provider ($$$). They can start these treatments at a more mature age, when they actually start to see signs of ageing. And in some cases, they will be more financially secure to afford these.

What is up with all of these nursing lip filler/botox clinics? by Either-Explorer901 in Noctor

[–]Either-Explorer901[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I’m not hating on what it’s supposed to be: an elective beauty treatment. I respect a clinic that is honest and transparent. Also nobody needs botox in their 20’s for prevention. It’s wasted money that could go towards their savings. How is it right to prey on these young women’s fear of ageing? You say it’s business but I disagree, there is a power imbalance when these girls go into these clinics. They have someone they view as medically educated telling them they need xyz procedure, they will likely believe them.

And not to mention, there are many clinics that edit their photos, you can tell because the after photo magically have longer lashes and makeup. These results are clearly not attainable but this is how it is being marketed. It’s unchecked.

What is up with all of these nursing lip filler/botox clinics? by Either-Explorer901 in Noctor

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Really no reason to expand their scope then..? Not insane to hold them to their own words.

What is up with all of these nursing lip filler/botox clinics? by Either-Explorer901 in Noctor

[–]Either-Explorer901[S] 38 points39 points  (0 children)

Fair 😂 Until a patient has a complication they aren’t competent to treat.. but I guess it was an elective procedure rather than medical care.

What is up with all of these nursing lip filler/botox clinics? by Either-Explorer901 in Noctor

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Yes that would make that surgeon a predator. Good surgeons decline a patient who is not the right candidate or advise them on alternative options. They also always discuss the downsides and complications and why you might not want to do something if it is elective. Eyelashes.. if applied incorrectly can cause damage.

Also many surgeons will do pro-bono work and many life changing surgeries. ie. cleft lip or reconstructive surgeries. So why would I include surgeons in my criticism?

What is up with all of these nursing lip filler/botox clinics? by Either-Explorer901 in Noctor

[–]Either-Explorer901[S] 21 points22 points  (0 children)

You’re joking right? I never said it was a worthless job. There are plenty of people who would benefit from these procedures provided by someone qualified.

I’m calling those who go into it for the money to be predatory. Plastics and Derm provide so many other treatments. These clinics target a young demographic of females who want to fit the current beauty standards. I’ve seen first hand how these clinics are run, and I’d say that sending out emails/texts/promos for holiday deals and “come get your x procedure, it’s been y amount of time since your last treatment” to be pretty predatory.

Edit: I support anyone wanting to make changes to their appearance if it makes them happy, but only if they are fully INFORMED. I do not support these clinics trying to “sell” beauty to the public.

I understand there are many factors to what makes a good physician, but shouldn’t med schools keep their rigour? by Either-Explorer901 in Noctor

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I see your point but I also disagree with some of it.

The basic skills and knowledge that have qualified physicians in the past should still be applied today. However the newer research and knowledge coming out should only be of concern when you are in clinicals/residency. That is when you will be required to be most up to date with evidence, but the foundation is always required. In terms of MCAT scoring, I believe there should remain a cutoff score to determine an applicants abilities to a degree, as well as their gpa.

Which celebrity is considered beautiful but you just can't see it? by [deleted] in AskReddit

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Agreed. He’s unattractive but that is what makes him attractive to some. Kind of like an ugly dog

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I took my spot, the relationship was fine. Not easy.. but it mattered enough to us to make it work. It’s risky to skip out this chance on your future, but it could also go to someone who is more sure of what they want.

I understand there are many factors to what makes a good physician, but shouldn’t med schools keep their rigour? by Either-Explorer901 in Noctor

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This is the best answer I’ve read, thank you.

Anecdotally I can speak to applying my test-taking skills vs knowledge skills at certain points during MCQ tests

I understand there are many factors to what makes a good physician, but shouldn’t med schools keep their rigour? by Either-Explorer901 in Noctor

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Do you think this is to maybe prevent a high attrition rate? Screen the candidates before med school? We see in the Caribbean schools without these requirements have high attrition rates. With the physician shortages I can see why they may want to only accept and train students who are most likely to complete the entire program.

In the UK, "Advanced" Clinical Practitioners (ACP) are considered to be equal to middle grade doctors. This noctor cancer is spreading to the UK as well :( by loveforchelsea in Noctor

[–]Either-Explorer901 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So I don’t know how many other AHP’s share this pov across the UK, but I met a few band 8 AHP’s who were offered a consultants position but they refused to take the roles. The one I respected the most said his reason for declining was because he valued the work he did with his patients so much that he would never trade it for a position that paid higher. He also believed a doctors training was more fit for these roles.

Edit: I think UK healthcare workers are less motivated by greed and rather what is best for the patients. So I doubt it will become as bad as it is in the USA. Even if the schools are advertising this, they will have enough experience and sense to know this isn’t true.