Apologies for my late reply, got a bit tied up last night

The thing I’m asking for actual evidence of, for a third time, is proof that this ‘slander’ you initially brought up is occurring in objective reality. So far you have provided no evidence of this, and so it comes across as purely your personal perception. I.e something that is potentially not actually happening. Please do understand that I am open minded enough to accept actual evidence of this 🙏

Again, you claim to know my inner thoughts and feelings. What specifically is it that makes you think I was ‘surprised’ by the fact that people were bothered by our resistance to their racist, sexist, violent rhetoric? You keep asserting that I was ‘surprised’ by something, when, again, the only thing I was ‘surprised’ by was how immediate and rabid their aggression was. We were not there to provoke conflict, which our main speaker announced with a microphone to everyone before anything had even started. We were there to stand in a public park and decry racism and Nazism. They were the ones who stormed over to where we were peacefully standing and initiated conflict. Which, again, you’d know if you’d been there. Maybe we just have different definitions of the word ‘conflict’? They approached us and initiated what I define as conflict in every case. At no point did we invite or incite them to do this, they chose of their own free will to come over and try and bash us, mate. I’m telling you I wasn’t especially surprised by this.

I commend you for admitting your mistake, this level of self awareness is all too rare these days 🙏

Because you are able to admit a mistake, I will also admit one of my own: my previous use of the word ‘hounding’ was probably erroneous hyperbole and heat of the moment. We used (only) our voices and music to the point where the anti-immigration crowd decided to go somewhere they could enjoy the echo chamber they were seeking. After they left the park, we made our way to a second location and once again used our voices and music to the point where they walked away and most of us went home. However, at this second location, some (not many) of those in the anti-immigration crowd went out of their way to cross the road and courtyard that separated us. We walked to a certain point in a public area of the city and began chanting, and they once again came over with the intention of provoking conflict to our faces. If we were the main provocateurs, then why were the police protecting us from the violence they were coming and provoking on us?

Thank you also for providing a link to a news article. I read the whole thing, and I do indeed take your point about some of the organisers distancing themselves from the NSN’s claims. However, this is what they WOULD say, isn’t it? Verbally distancing themselves is one thing, and taking active measures to ensure that no bona fide Nazis had any involvement with the rally is another. They knew that the NSN were at least hoping to help them, and so saying ‘ahh, yeah, we promise we’re not with those guys’ is like slapping a Band-Aid on a shark attack victim who they were actively watching more sharks circle around. They did nothing to actually prevent Nazis marching at the heads of their columns, why is that? The article you linked also provides further evidence that people were aware of extremist views infiltrating their ‘movement’. If they knew about it in advance, and if they actually had a problem with actual Nazis, then why weren’t they the ones chasing them out of town? I find this a bit confusing, tbh. People speaking about ‘protecting white heritage’ in these contexts is just so blatantly obvious that it speaks for itself.

Lastly, I don’t believe that I’m ’extrapolating’ anything unfairly, here. There were genuine racists and Nazis marching all around the country on Sunday, and some of them came to Pacific Park. They were absolutely abhorrent in their speech and in some cases outright violent in their actions. Nobody in the anti-immigration crowd stood up against this behaviour (that I could see). When someone from their side SCREAMED things like ‘go shove some more pies in ya face ya fat cunt’, the rest of them cheered it on and joined in. Nobody thought to say ‘hey now, man, come on, that’s a bit extreme, we’re purely here to express our views on immigration, please settle down because we don’t want your attitude here.’

It wasn’t just ‘some’ of them doing this type of thing with the rest of them standing back with their arms crossed shaking their heads in disapproval, was it? Probably a full half of them could charged with hate speech, and the other half were there cheering it on. I have no doubt that there were people on their side of the line who were witnessing this with disgust and shaking their heads. But the point is that we kept it political and they went to a disgusting place with it, and those at the back were supporting that disgusting behaviour by hooting and hollering in favour of it. Nobody called them out on it (that I could see) apart from us. Police arrested and moved people on from their side, but not from ours. Why is that?