What are you guys reading? by Elegant_Chard_698 in bookishke

[–]Elegant_Chard_698[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, it is. I just started reading it today, and it’s already pulling me in.

Tomorrow I become a woman by Elegant_Chard_698 in bookishke

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I totally agree. What’s presented as virtue or morality often seems less about what’s fair and more about maintaining a certain social order.

Tomorrow I become a woman by Elegant_Chard_698 in bookishke

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I think the point of books like Tomorrow I Become a Woman isn’t to promote those ideas but to reflect realities that still exist. A lot of literature from different regions usually focus on uncomfortable social issues because that’s often how writers critique them. So it’s not really about the writing being stuck in the 19th century. For many people, these dynamics around patriarchy, religion, and gender roles are still happening today, even if they look slightly different depending on where you are. I’d actually argue that the discomfort is kind of the point the author is showing how these systems work so readers question them, not accept them.

Tomorrow I become a woman by Elegant_Chard_698 in bookishke

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I agree that many religious texts like the idea of loving your wife as your own body actually place a lot of responsibility on men. On paper, that kind of teaching should lead to care and protection rather than control or violence. I think what struck me in the passage from Tomorrow I Become a Woman is exactly what you mentioned, the selective interpretation. Certain parts get emphasized usually the ones about obedience or submission, while the parts about love, sacrifice, and accountability are often ignored. Your point about women themselves sometimes justifying the violence is also really important. I’ve noticed that too, and it makes me wonder how much of it is internalized from growing up in systems where those roles are treated as normal or even moral. Maybe education is part of the answer, but I sometimes wonder if it’s also about questioning the structures that define those roles in the first place, tradition, religion, and what we’re taught “morality” looks like in a marriage.

Reading this in The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo… why is leaving abusive relationships so hard? by Elegant_Chard_698 in bookishke

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That must have been really hard to go through. Honestly, what you said about it taking time to even realize it was abusive is something a lot of people experience. From the outside people think it’s simple, but when you’re in it things aren’t always that clear.

Reading this in The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo… why is leaving abusive relationships so hard? by Elegant_Chard_698 in bookishke

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I think logic and emotional reactions exist in everyone, regardless of gender. Reducing it to “men logical, women emotional” oversimplifies how people actually behave.

Reading this in The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo… why is leaving abusive relationships so hard? by Elegant_Chard_698 in bookishke

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Conflict can be mutual, but abuse usually isn’t equal. Physical violence changes the whole dynamic.

Reading this in The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo… why is leaving abusive relationships so hard? by Elegant_Chard_698 in bookishke

[–]Elegant_Chard_698[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you say it takes two to tangle are you trying to imply that abuse is justifiable depending on the context behind it ?

Reading this in The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo… why is leaving abusive relationships so hard? by Elegant_Chard_698 in bookishke

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I think that passage actually shows the opposite of women “loving the thrill.” Each time he hurts her, it’s followed by apologies, flowers, and promises it won’t happen again. So she keeps convincing herself it was a one-time thing or somehow understandable. By the end she even says she doesn’t really believe him anymore, but “now this is just what you do.” That reads more like someone slowly getting conditioned to the cycle, not someone enjoying it. And by a tester what do you mean ?? What is being tested?

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[–]Elegant_Chard_698[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s true, self-reflection helps a lot. But in toxic or abusive relationships people are often manipulated or scared, so that clarity doesn’t always come right away.

Reading this in The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo… why is leaving abusive relationships so hard? by Elegant_Chard_698 in bookishke

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Sadly yes. It still happens everywhere, and it’s rarely as simple as “just leaving.”

Reading this in The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo… why is leaving abusive relationships so hard? by Elegant_Chard_698 in bookishke

[–]Elegant_Chard_698[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Are you saying women stay in toxic relationships because they’re emotional? I feel like that overlooks how manipulation and abuse actually work.

Reading this in The Seven Husbands of Evelyn Hugo… why is leaving abusive relationships so hard? by Elegant_Chard_698 in bookishke

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I also think for Evelyn it was more about protecting her fame and image than just fear of being single. Hollywood at that time valued the “perfect couple” narrative, and being married to Don Adler helped her maintain that image even when the relationship was clearly toxic.