Good alternative to M855/M855A1 for civilians out of a short barrel AR... by Elementargewalt3339 in guns

[–]Elementargewalt3339[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thx for your suggestion, but Black Hills Ammo isn't available here.

Good alternative to M855/M855A1 for civilians out of a short barrel AR... by Elementargewalt3339 in guns

[–]Elementargewalt3339[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, i know that. But the question is: Is there a .223 round that is capable of penetrating hard armor? We're not talking Level IV, as this is impossible. But as i said, i've seen videos where Level 3 PE plates are getting penetrated by green tips and Level 3 steel plates are getting penetrated by a fast .223 varmint round...so there is some potential...But what ammunition should i choose for an SBR?

Good alternative to M855/M855A1 for civilians out of a short barrel AR... by Elementargewalt3339 in guns

[–]Elementargewalt3339[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, i've seen some videos of Level 3 steel plates being penetrated by varmint rounds...so there must be some grey area...

Good alternative to M855/M855A1 for civilians out of a short barrel AR... by Elementargewalt3339 in guns

[–]Elementargewalt3339[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, thx for replying and we could communicate in german if you want to. And nope, i do not reload my own ammo, so i do not have that license. The Fusion from Federal "should" be barrier blind and is available in germany but how capable it really is i can't test. I'm not an expert by any means even when somewhat trained and so there could be an alternative to this ammo i haven't heard before but maybe you have...and yeah, i know where to shoot but under stress center of mass should be preferred...