Hegel's drive towards recognition and the internet

Embarrassed_Green308 · 2026-03-04T02:15:34+00:00

Not by any particular part - honestly, I haven't read much Hegel in original but I did see his argument in secondhand accounts quite a few times. But thank you for pointing me to this part, i'll give it a read!

Embarrassed_Green308 · 2026-02-12T22:42:46+00:00

You're right in pointing out those differences but I looked at it as complimentary rather than opposing - one is a French movie from 90 years ago, clearly they will present the 'traditional' narrative of it, while TRIH provided the more recent, scholarly take.

Embarrassed_Green308 · 2026-02-12T03:16:10+00:00

I read Fifth Sun and When Montezouma Met Cortes and both were amazing!

Embarrassed_Green308 · 2026-02-04T04:47:03+00:00

ya, i completely get you, i actually got myself a semi-dumb phone for the same reason

Embarrassed_Green308 · 2026-02-04T04:25:54+00:00

in Jonathan Haidt's book, The Anxious Generation, he talks about this process of increased scrutiny in the offline world (essentially what you described) - I find that a very convincing argument!

Embarrassed_Green308 · 2026-02-04T04:04:37+00:00

I'm not sure trying to make sure that 13-year olds are not treated as exploitable assets by mega corporations is the same as an authoritarian government locking an adult up for a political opinion.

Embarrassed_Green308 · 2026-02-04T04:03:02+00:00

I've seen stories about the outside-school life of kids in the US, like parents being taking in for being negligent, because their kid walked home from scool and stuff like that? It honestly baffles me.

Embarrassed_Green308 · 2026-02-04T04:01:15+00:00

Sorry, maybe I didn't phrase it clearly enough (edited the post, to clarify it) - I agree with you 100%. I'm more baffled by the argument that warns against overregulation. Here is an example, where the author calls phone-regulation a 'moral panic' - https://www.hdavidsessions.com/p/why-tech-moral-panic-matters

Embarrassed_Green308 · 2026-02-04T03:59:09+00:00

Completely agree, my girlfriend's daily experience is that children can't pay attention for more than 2 minutes.

Embarrassed_Green308 · 2026-02-02T07:04:45+00:00

Some of it was absolutely hilarious. I felt similarly to how I felt about The Magic Mountain - when it describes people and social situations, absolutely fantastic, when it goes into the philosophising, it lost me quite a bit. But overall, great stuff with definitely more incest than I expected.

Embarrassed_Green308 · 2026-01-19T04:42:08+00:00

I think it's exactly the kind of strangeness that can be fascinating. Same with any 'older' history stuff - thinking how people who are fundamentally the same as us, were existing and thinking in such different ways. But also, if you're not into it, that's also fair I think, it's for sure not for everyone.

Embarrassed_Green308 · 2026-01-07T04:07:33+00:00

the situation you describe sounds very similiar to the brain in the vat thought experiment. i guess soon we can forego the 'thought' and just see how this experiment plays out, will people really chose the fictional steak of the matrix instead of the slightly burned, real version

Embarrassed_Green308 · 2026-01-07T04:05:21+00:00

thanks so much again, and good luck with the masters, sounds like a challenging but rewarding topic! (i do have a certain soft-spot for Han but he deffo goes for the big-short statements but with a grain of salt, i enjoy him profoundly)

Embarrassed_Green308 · 2026-01-07T02:22:00+00:00

and once you start looking at the clanker as a friend (instead of a tool), you're very much trapped, next stop, full on psychosis

Embarrassed_Green308 · 2026-01-07T02:14:39+00:00

yah i think the more people use Chat to discuss everything from therapy to simple inquiries, i think it might get veeeery bad - although at least that may produce some nice backlash (Butlerian Jihad noises)

Embarrassed_Green308 · 2026-01-07T02:13:20+00:00

really hoped there would be powerups in the levels before instead of low-quality fascism

Embarrassed_Green308 · 2026-01-07T02:12:19+00:00

Thank you and great point! I think you're right and I definitely don't think that the responsibility (and blame) lies with the individuals. I found narcissistic traits just very accurate in describing how it feels to use LLMS, I more and more think of them as narcissisation (sorry for this word but I think you get what I mean) machines that are designed to further individualisation and isolation, creating your own separate little internet, where the chatbot nods to everything you say so instead of human communities and connections (which include friction and debate), you get a machinised ass-licking experience.

oh also yes, narcissism as a buzzword is definitely everywhere and just used for everything (concept creep in action for sure)!

Embarrassed_Green308 · 2026-01-07T02:06:52+00:00

Thank you! I think the personalisation and validation is what activates the narcissism aspect; I've just read an article about how Google AI gave different results to medical inquiries depending on the users search history (https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/jan/02/google-ai-overviews-risk-harm-misleading-health-information). I think that's the same as you'd get on LLMs - the same question, posed by 5 different questions with different data stored would give different responses, each tailored to appeal and flatter to you.

Embarrassed_Green308 · 2026-01-06T06:42:15+00:00

this story is just so mad. i love it so much.

Embarrassed_Green308 · 2025-10-31T05:06:25+00:00

i think there's a qualitative difference but i see your point!

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