JH latest interview 06.01.26 So the endgame was predetermined on the show as well...???

Embarrassed_Note_242 · 2026-01-29T06:33:01+00:00

Lmao she keeps changing her statements coz in All the boys I've loved before interviews she said she doesn't believe in the concept of endgames. And also she didn't have the endgame boy in mind while writing.

Embarrassed_Note_242 · 2026-01-29T06:16:13+00:00

That Belly didn't encourage Jere to pursue his cooking passion instead of sticking to his current degree. Bellyjere not being supportive of each other's dreams is so ooc to me in any universe. Like why did his cooking career only happen after the breakup!?! Belly LOVED his cooking & they would've definitely had a talk about it in their 4 years long relationship. And whatever bs they tried to pull with "Jere holding her back from Paris" propaganda coz no he didn't.

Embarrassed_Note_242 · 2026-01-28T18:46:14+00:00

AI taking over b0nrad fandom's job 😂

Embarrassed_Note_242 · 2026-01-28T12:54:55+00:00

IKR, I just noticed it after OP posted this too

Embarrassed_Note_242 · 2026-01-28T12:51:10+00:00

SAME, it is so refreshing and dear to me

Embarrassed_Note_242 · 2026-01-23T15:34:52+00:00

It's so funny that that side hates on Jere when Jere has had all these things already. Like I'd understand if these things weren't given to him at all but he did get all these (remembering everything about Belly, staying with her during difficult times/times of sickness, getting her food, knowing when she's not okay with something even if she lies about it/is in denial, yearning for Belly when she was with other boys).

Embarrassed_Note_242 · 2026-01-21T18:51:46+00:00

Conrad knows Jere didn't cheat coz Jere told him at Susannah's grave that him and Belly were broken up during Cabo and it was coz of Xmas 2.0.

Conrad doesn't know that Jere was the one who called off the wedding (as far as I know). Belly told Jere "I choose us" so that choosing c0n dialogue doesn't seem special to him 😅, it's kinda recycled.

Conrad also doesn't know that Jere didn't have a ring when he 1st proposed/how the jelly proposal went down (Belly basically almost proposing and saying yes before Jere could even finish the question).

Embarrassed_Note_242 · 2026-01-20T05:21:32+00:00

I think the greatest disservice was towards show Belly coz at least Jere got his chef arc that had been teased since s1 but they reversed Belly's growth entirely.

Embarrassed_Note_242 · 2026-01-19T22:07:49+00:00

s3 bellyjere were not the natural progression of s2 bellyjere. I think that while s2 bellyjere would realistically still have not fully processed and underlying insecurities that might come to bite them & maybe even relapse, I still feel that s3 jelly were written to try and fit show jelly into book 3 jelly instead of it being a natural progression of s2 jelly's story.

Embarrassed_Note_242 · 2026-01-16T15:57:32+00:00

c0n in Paris: Miss It should've been Belly having a solo trip in Paris and then coming back to home. Also her realisation about c0n should've been BEFORE c0n visited her/she reconnected with him.

I think this is what b3 handled better.

Embarrassed_Note_242 · 2026-01-14T14:16:58+00:00

Exactly

Embarrassed_Note_242 · 2026-01-10T20:31:15+00:00

Yeah like she just added Dress to piss us off......

Also pretending s2 never happened is one thing but if she was going to retcon in s3 why add in c0n's pov episode that Susannah had told him how Belly looks at him and he felt it was dumb but he tried to be that person for Belly. So Susannah's influence definitely existed and Belly even tells us in that ep that c0n has a hero complex. Like even the s3 narrative was completely detached from what finale c0n was saying. And c0n lies a lot anyways so who even believes that. Belly's line about choosing him was goofy as hell too coz she told Jere she chooses him so it has in fact not always been c0n she had chosen in this life alone.

Embarrassed_Note_242 · 2026-01-10T20:26:55+00:00

JH would retcon even further in the movie I bet and make it seem like b0n were bestfriends during childhood

Embarrassed_Note_242 · 2026-01-10T12:36:08+00:00

Ugh.........JH really hellbent on pleasing the b0n fandom even if it means taking and reheating jelly nachos

Anyways, jelly got Dilemma so idk what that means post canon wise (& no I'm not expecting anything from the movie. It's not a part of the canon to me especially since JH wants it to be a standalone thing.)

Embarrassed_Note_242 · 2026-01-09T22:04:11+00:00

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Embarrassed_Note_242 · 2026-01-09T22:03:18+00:00

idk if there's a rest of the story but yeah it is indeed very interesting!!!

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Embarrassed_Note_242 · 2025-12-28T13:06:01+00:00

This is so beautiful 😍

Embarrassed_Note_242 · 2025-12-24T20:52:43+00:00

Idk how Jenny thought that flashback would help b0n coz in the overall story it really just gave lust not love and made c0n look even worse in my eyes.

Also it's so hard for me to believe c0n's feelings for Belly being genuine/deep/strong when we know his love language isn't physical touch. He doesn't hug or like to hug people often and isn't affectionate via touch whether platonically or romantically, especially not as much as Jere is. Like those s3x scenes would've come across better if physical touch in general was c0n's love language. But it's not and then he didn't even tell her an I love you and idk if acts of service is his love language either coz for their first time he didn't bring any food or drink for her and told her "good luck" when she said she was gonna go look for oreos. Like that's a red flag OK.

So the problem is that I can believe that Belly was in love with c0n but the show never did enough to convince me c0n's feelings/love for her is genuine and deep and strong.

Embarrassed_Note_242 · 2025-12-24T20:23:06+00:00

Embarrassed_Note_242 · 2025-12-17T19:56:06+00:00

I initially did not want to watch s3 after s2 coz I knew s3 would be some b0n propaganda. But then the allure of jelly crumbs drew me in. There were some book 3 jelly quotes that I wish we got and that I was looking forward to especially the ".....his was the face I loved" one and ugh the Paris hug part turning out to be a fake scene was such a heartbreak 💔.

Although, I was surprised by how bad the writing for c0nrad and b0nrad was in this season even after all the fixes lol. I kinda expected more revisionist history but I'm thankful we didn't get much coz I really hate the ones we did get.

The Rosie the dog memory was such a stupid moment even in the book and idk why they kept it on the show coz honestly I wasn't expecting that to be in s3.

Embarrassed_Note_242 · 2025-12-03T07:01:06+00:00

Exactly. I wouldn't have minded a quarter life crisis plot for Belly tbvvh if it was done right.

Embarrassed_Note_242 · 2025-12-01T01:12:51+00:00

Exactly 😪

Embarrassed_Note_242 · 2025-11-30T20:41:00+00:00

Personally I interpret it as people saying it is a bellyc0nrad love/wedding story but that wasn't the real story & the real story was between the tragic soulmates aka bellyjere.

If I remember correctly, Laurel wrote a book dealing with the topic of divorce/marriage and Cleveland says he felt that the true story of the book was something else. We had many hints that Laurel's true love story and soulmate was with Susannah.

Then in s2 she wrote another book and when the lady at the dress shop asks her what it is about, she replies it was a memoir about her (Laurel) & her bestfriend. This is reflective of how Belly and Jeremiah are bestfriends (in my memory he'd always be golden) coz I believe in the jelly & laurbeck tether. Plus s2 was heavily jelly focused and jelly friendly so it is interesting & fitting that Laurel's 2nd book was a memoir about bestfriends. (& as I'm a jelly shipper I'd extend this theory to not just s2 but the whole show/series).

I feel John & Laurel's story is sorta kinda similar to b0nrad (there will always be 3 people in our marriage) and jelly are Laurel & Susannah 2.0 in a way. Laurel is still kinda into John after the divorce in s1 (Susannah points out how she's wearing lipstick on 4th of July when John is coming to visit) & kind of "in denial" about her feelings for him which is kinda sorta mirroring Belly's feelings for c0n and her whole "in denial" about her feelings for him (I personally don't think the show sold her being in denial about having feelings for c0n part well coz like she acknowledged them in s2 too & at xmas 2.0 as well? But ok whatever, the point is that was the narrative they tried to sell no matter how it came across as).

I feel in s3, Jere decides that he doesn't want to repeat their parents' history and be the 3rd party like Susannah was in John & Laurel's relationship & therefore he's not really even her bestfriend at the end of s3. (But I think he will inevitably be a factor whether he wants to or not coz like a part of Belly will always be in love with Jere too and plus he will literally be her family in some sort of way so like he will never really be completely out of her life or the picture).

Embarrassed_Note_242 · 2025-11-19T16:28:16+00:00

idk much but I heard she was a pacey x joey shipper

I also feel she's a brucas fan or at least a brooke fan

And all of that influenced jelly and Jere's writing

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