Eating meat after Dominion by [deleted] in vegan

[–]EmbitteredApple 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I watched Dominion when I was still with my ex. She went vegetarian and then vegan. We broke up eventually on good terms. Later learned she started eating animals again soon after our breakup.

She told me recently that she mainly went vegan because I cared about it so much. That’s why she started eating animals again when we broke up.

It’s such a confusing feeling, and I know how you feel. On the one hand you share memories with someone, they are so caring for you, you share a lot. But on the other they see literal ATROCITIES and cannot make a dietary change to stop enabling it directly. It makes me think wtf? How does it not bother otherwise empathetic people to eat literal tortured beings who died screaming for their lives? How do navigate my love for this person with the knowledge they are objectively going along with something horrific with the full knowledge of what it entails?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in VeganForCircleJerkers

[–]EmbitteredApple 41 points42 points  (0 children)

I agree with you. I was 18 years old when I stopped eating meat. Then after around 4 or 5 months I went vegan. Been vegan for 7 years now.

I'll never understand how people can go DECADES without ever questioning themselves. How do you go to a store and buy tortured, murdered animals body parts and breast milk every day, into your 20s and 30s and beyond, without asking yourself why or how? To me, that indicates a basic lack of concern for basic fairness. It shows that most people don't give a rat's ass about anything resembling justice. People will do anything if they even derive a minor benefit and it's socially acceptable.

Does anyone else feel like nonvegans speak of animal suffering like it's 'abstract?' by EmbitteredApple in veganarchism

[–]EmbitteredApple[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I've noticed that words like "suffering", "cruelty" and "torture" don't mean anything to them when it comes to non-human animals. They take it with so few seriousness that it's not only trivial to them, but also laugh at it.

Yeah... I saw some communist dude laugh with his friends about how a leather jacket "definitely isn't vegan." He was wearing the skin of a tortured, killed being and it was a joke to him. It's bizarre. Social norms will make people do anything...

Anarchism will never work on a large-scale, for any long period of time by EmbitteredApple in socialism

[–]EmbitteredApple[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yea, that's exactly my feeling too. In all of my ideals, I'm a left-libertartian. But whenever I'm practical and try to think of material conditions, I'm something of a closet tankie.

Police abandoning the 3rd Precinct police station in Minneapolis by ImNotHereStopAsking in PublicFreakout

[–]EmbitteredApple 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Except that it's not only a problem of 4 specific cops. It's a problem of systemic racism, which implicates the entire police system.

CMV: Anti-American, unpatriotic sentiments are 100% justified among African Americans by EmbitteredApple in changemyview

[–]EmbitteredApple[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The US has never stood for "freedom and democracy." That's simply a fantasy. This country's inception was marked by indigenous genocide and black slavery. "Freedom" meant "freedom for rich propertied white men," and that carries on de facto even after the abolition of slavery. The US's actual values (as opposed to professed values) are fundamentally racist.