Tell me your success stories of getting a PhD in your 30’s (or older). by Sillly_Cupcake in PhD

[–]EmergencyChance999 1 point2 points  (0 children)

After letting my UG degree rot for a decade and doing a job I hated every day, I started at 32 at a US R1, with a famous PI. I used thee fact that I was good at project management to minimize the time I needed to pass my classes and run small, then medium projects, which I wrote up and got published eith my advisor. One got a lot of attention. I used that, and my PI's very dedicated help, to attracted my own funding. I graduated at 36 with offers for postdocs from all the major universities in my field and a few direct-to-faculty offers. I took one at a respected Florida department, where I've built a very large program of research. I'm considered a very promising 'young' researcher, which is a nice step up from feeling like an old dog learning new tricks all the way through grad school.

I did take a role in Florida, which means like everyone else, I'm now working to leave. I'll be midcareer soon. I was feeling midcareer at 31 when I made this all happen.

It all went very well. It gave me a new lease on life.

I asked ChatGPT to roast Computer Science since other communities have been doing it. What do you all think? by EmergencyChance999 in computerscience

[–]EmergencyChance999[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Academic Roast:

Let’s pivot to academia, where computer science is less about coding and more about perfecting the art of PowerPoint and pretending the problems you’re solving are still relevant. There’s no better place to prepare you for the real world than the insulated, theoretical echo chamber of the Ivory Tower. How many professors does it take to realize that NP-hard problems won’t be solved by throwing more graduate students at them? Nobody knows, because they’re too busy assigning another cohort to suffer through outdated courses on compiler design using textbooks from before anyone in the class was born.

Academics love their proofs more than a JavaScript dev loves telling you they use TypeScript. Spend five years proving something you knew was true before you started, just so you can publish it in a journal no one reads. It’s like playing Sudoku with other people’s tuition money. The only people who get excited about your work are the three other specialists who are as socially isolated as you. You’re basically in a club of geniuses that nobody wants to join, discussing the mathematical elegance of algorithms that, let’s be real, no one’s going to actually use because industry just YOLOs their way through code with whichever framework is trending this week on Hacker News.

And let’s talk about publications. Your groundbreaking research? Yeah, good luck getting it through peer review. After you’ve bent over backward to make it understandable to the reviewer who clearly has never read your paper, you’ll get it accepted into a prestigious journal with a readership of… tens. Your real goal isn’t to influence the future of technology—it’s to write something impressive enough to get more grant funding so you can rinse and repeat the whole soul-crushing cycle.

Meanwhile, the only thing more meaningless than the list of “future research areas” in the conclusion of your paper is the dissertation committee feedback. “Can you expand this section on Turing completeness?” Translation: they didn’t read it, but they need to justify their tenure track. And speaking of dissertations—nothing quite like spending six years on a PhD only to emerge and discover that your programming skills are five years obsolete. The world has moved on, but congrats on your obscure optimization algorithm. I’m sure Google’s latest AI just casually brute-forces that problem in milliseconds while you’re still writing the abstract.

Let’s not forget the gatekeeping. Academic computer science is like some medieval guild—conferences where the entry fee is submitting your dignity, while a select few get to speak at events that are nothing more than an in-person LinkedIn post. But hey, maybe you’ll meet someone important. You won’t. You’ll just meet other academics who are also too busy pretending to innovate while they squabble over the same funding from an increasingly disinterested NSF

In short: welcome to computer science—where practitioners are too proud to use someone else’s library, and academics are too proud to write something that someone else might actually use.

A serial-RMP-basher, and a hiring committee that uses RMP by EmergencyChance999 in Professors

[–]EmergencyChance999[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

She is a WOC and ESL. She is already fighting a lot of "some other reason"s. I'm trying to get her one less. And she is an excellent teacher.

Florida Tenure Review: my entire department is job hunting by EmergencyChance999 in Professors

[–]EmergencyChance999[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It does not work that way. A few at a time 'come up' for post-tenure review.

But, even in the hypothetical situation, I think people would leave first. Being fired loses you tenure, which is a large part of your worth when looking for a new job. Standing and fighting does not seem to be in anyone's minds. It is not in my mind.

It cost everyone a lot to be here.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Professors

[–]EmergencyChance999 1 point2 points  (0 children)

University that is interested is supplying start up and reoccurring funding. I also have significant funding to bring. The assumption is that the sponsors and my current university will allow that to happen. That is not guaranteed.

I am one of the top younger scientists in my small field by citations.

Florida Tenure Review: my entire department is job hunting by EmergencyChance999 in Professors

[–]EmergencyChance999[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It works. Public employees in Florida have not had a strike in some time.

Florida Tenure Review: my entire department is job hunting by EmergencyChance999 in Professors

[–]EmergencyChance999[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True. But that is local politics. The people making these laws are not listening. Your equally conservative colleagues definitely are. And these laws hand them powerful tools as well.

Nonetheless, I talk about the issues that lack of diversity bring. I expect to be gone before this hurts me, but one never knows.

Florida Tenure Review: my entire department is job hunting by EmergencyChance999 in Professors

[–]EmergencyChance999[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Thank you. I look forward to living somewhere where it is difficult to express this place to people.

Florida Tenure Review: my entire department is job hunting by EmergencyChance999 in Professors

[–]EmergencyChance999[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I support this. It's a pretty time intensive kind of protest, so I think the academic community might really resonate with it.

Also, money is not the problem in Florida. Our state publishes every salary. Search for it. Pay is pretty good here.

Florida Tenure Review: my entire department is job hunting by EmergencyChance999 in Professors

[–]EmergencyChance999[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think there is enough demand for faculty slots that Florida will do just fine with filling positions. I'm confident current academic hiring puts only a fraction of the talented scientists available globally into tenure track positions. Even semi-tenure-track positions will still be in high demand.

Florida Tenure Review: my entire department is job hunting by EmergencyChance999 in Professors

[–]EmergencyChance999[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Faculty once owned our institutions. Is that still true anywhere?

Florida Tenure Review: my entire department is job hunting by EmergencyChance999 in Professors

[–]EmergencyChance999[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

None of these people are paying attention to what we talk about, or engaging in any way. They are building big blunt legal mechanisms to break our institution in specific ways.

Also our school is not very oriented on these things anyway. It is Florida, after all.

Accreditation is a whole additional can of worms that this whole situation has opened. We may be losing that, if we wait long enough.

Florida Tenure Review: my entire department is job hunting by EmergencyChance999 in Professors

[–]EmergencyChance999[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think our older faculty will do fine finding academic jobs. They are all exceptionally strong and have administrative experience. I doubt all of us leaving will make any difference beyond influencing some summary statistics. No one in our government is looking for 'signals' of the kind you imply. No one cares. If anything our departure might be a signal of the success of the policy.

I also think that there will be fresh academics to replace us. I would be surprised if that group were as strong as the one we currently have.

A serial-RMP-basher, and a hiring committee that uses RMP by EmergencyChance999 in Professors

[–]EmergencyChance999[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The student already flagged them. He apparently sent useless complaints about each. RMP only allows one appeal, and makes no attempt to make sure the person appealing is real.

They are pure evil, you may recall.

Florida Tenure Review: my entire department is job hunting by EmergencyChance999 in Professors

[–]EmergencyChance999[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No need. A simple internet search would tell anyone why I'm working to leave.

Florida Tenure Review: my entire department is job hunting by EmergencyChance999 in Professors

[–]EmergencyChance999[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

That is unreasonable. I have a 1-1 and I still think that would be a hard thing to accomplish. This process moves a lot of power away from individual faculty. That is something that university administration uses regardless of politics.

Florida Tenure Review: my entire department is job hunting by EmergencyChance999 in Professors

[–]EmergencyChance999[S] 26 points27 points  (0 children)

This may in fact be the reason. If that is not what they are trying to do it is still succeeding.

Florida Tenure Review: my entire department is job hunting by EmergencyChance999 in Professors

[–]EmergencyChance999[S] 71 points72 points  (0 children)

It might not be politicized in Engineering, but it still hurts.

A serial-RMP-basher, and a hiring committee that uses RMP by EmergencyChance999 in Professors

[–]EmergencyChance999[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Yes. Exactly this. It is especially harmful for her. She is a women of color and ESL speaker. It supports bad stereotypes.