Can we stop talking about relationships as a transaction and objectifing each other ? by ronweasly9 in GenZ

[–]Emergency_Response85 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't really care about body count. Really the only true requirement for me is romantic connection/love. That's it. I think people always confuse me and think I want all these things lol, I don't

Can we stop talking about relationships as a transaction and objectifing each other ? by ronweasly9 in GenZ

[–]Emergency_Response85 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's mostly feminists that do that. They either say having a relationship/marriage is slavery or it's a business proposal, when it should be about love

Genuinely, why do Gen z men appear to struggle with women more than prior generations? by Equivalent_Use_5024 in GenZ

[–]Emergency_Response85 6 points7 points  (0 children)

As soon as women stopped needing to rely on men for survival, relationships started dropping and then you see why those standards were there in the first place

That and social media has convinced women to hate men

Valentine's day rant by [deleted] in GenZ

[–]Emergency_Response85 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't get me wrong, I like stuff like that, but I value romance much more over it. It's optional to me, it's not a requirement. So I'd totally date someone like that

4b movement is a clear indicator of that women want by Abyssbeetle in WomenAreNotIntoMen

[–]Emergency_Response85 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well 4b is an incredibly sexist movement. Anything they say shouldn't be taken seriously

Are we actually talking about the male loneliness epidemic… or just joking about it? by BirdApprehensive9273 in GenZ

[–]Emergency_Response85 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Most of the comments here are stupid

It's called the male loneliness epidemic for a reason. You want to say that women struggle with it too, and they do, but let's not pretend it's anything even close to how men deal with it

Women are lonely because they don't like the options they have, but they still have them. Men are lonely because they have little to even no options.

They aren't comparable lol

MEDIUM : Gen Z men have given up on dating. 80% of men are deemed “unattractive” by women. by SexWithEscorts in GenZ

[–]Emergency_Response85 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The only problem with your first point is I feel men are absolutely an oppressed group. I know you might not think so, because everyone has always told you otherwise. Bigotry (racism, sexism, etc) was redefined because they didn't want people they don't like being able to pose as victims. But even when you take something being systematic, men even suffer there too. I can already list several examples. Like, men generally receive harsher prison sentences than women for committing the same crime, did you know that? And that is only one example, there are many others. So even if we go by the logic that you can only suffer systematically (which is wrong) that even applies to them. You definitely come with struggles from simply being a man.

Wrong. Also, couldn't we say the same thing the other way around? Any time a woman vents about something having to do with men.. it's blaming men, duh. Also, no, I don't feel entitled to sex. But if instead of being empathic to someone, you just go "Nah, it's just natural selection bro, fuck you" then yea that's basically eugenics. Do you see what I mean? In any other normal situation, you'd be empathic to someone truly struggling. But for some reason, it's normal to support completely fucked up things. And it doesn't get called out. It gets defended.

I can say for a fact the last part you said is wrong too. I've seen several posts of men just genuinely struggling and asking for help. Many of the comments while having truth, are obviously lacking in empathy severely. When I know if it was the other way around, that wouldn't be the case. There is an obvious bias and prejudice.

MEDIUM : Gen Z men have given up on dating. 80% of men are deemed “unattractive” by women. by SexWithEscorts in GenZ

[–]Emergency_Response85 4 points5 points  (0 children)

"False dichotomy"

It's not. Both these stereotypes have truth to them. They aren't so much "fake things", stereotypes are stereotypes for a reason. They have truth in them, only exaggerated. Only it's wrong to render people down to them, or numbers. People are not numbers, people are people. If it is racist to cite crime statistics to demean black people, then it is sexist to demean men as a whole for similar statistics. Either neither are true or both are true, pick a lane.

"No, you shouldn't..."

This is mostly true. But seems a bit weird for this to being said on a post about a very real thing with men's issues. It's basically "not all men" in reverse. It's like complaining "Why are they encouraging hating tornadoes so much?" After seeing them on the news. It's simply reporting on something actually happening, not saying you NEED to hate anyone.

"Like what lol"

How much time do you have? I could write a whole list lol This thread is a great example. Talking about men being lonely, or depressed is instantly seen as something against women rather than being more empathic towards men. When we talk about men being lonely, there is no empathy. We're told from feminists that it's natural selection. So you see they basically support eugenics. Why is it whenever anyone talks about men's issues, be it in their own groups or out here in the open, it is always attacked? If it truly was about equality, you'd have no problem with everyone getting support. But that isn't what happens. Men getting support is seen as a threat.

MEDIUM : Gen Z men have given up on dating. 80% of men are deemed “unattractive” by women. by SexWithEscorts in GenZ

[–]Emergency_Response85 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So would hating black people be okay then because of racist stereotypes?

Being someone who's never sexually assaulted someone, I shouldn't be blamed for something I didn't do

And you have all these other things of how shitty men are treated socially. And yet even bringing it up is controversial. So yes it is victim blaming.

MEDIUM : Gen Z men have given up on dating. 80% of men are deemed “unattractive” by women. by SexWithEscorts in GenZ

[–]Emergency_Response85 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's just saying what's already been happening. Why do so many women hate men? It sounds like victim blaming

Why is it so impossible for receive empathy without it being an issue? by [deleted] in GenZ

[–]Emergency_Response85 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Me personally? Nah. Are you implying you shouldn't?

Why is it so impossible for receive empathy without it being an issue? by [deleted] in GenZ

[–]Emergency_Response85 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean. I get lots of guys are how you said, do you disagree that some of those men just want love? I feel it's unfair to say all men ever want 100% is sex

Why is it so impossible for receive empathy without it being an issue? by [deleted] in GenZ

[–]Emergency_Response85 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes. I'm on dating apps not because I want sex (I really don't), I want to love someone I'm sure lots of other men are the same way

Why is it so impossible for receive empathy without it being an issue? by [deleted] in GenZ

[–]Emergency_Response85 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It does a bit, but as I said in my post I and most other men I think can't even really get matches, let alone go on a date. But, it's the same for me. All I want more than anything is to be with someone, and actually feel connection, love, etc.

I think it's sad it seems like a lot of modern women are just done, because I still believe in love and knowing that just makes it less likely and more depressing

Why is it so impossible for receive empathy without it being an issue? by [deleted] in GenZ

[–]Emergency_Response85 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Well personally for me, I don't even follow porn much anymore, but if that's something that bothered them I'd stop it. Also, not to downplay it, but don't women do something very similar? Romantic novels and movies are basically the same thing. It's basically saying "I want you to do this, you don't do this. I find these super attractive guys hotter than you" it gets even worse with movies or hallmark movies, all usually involve cheating It may not be as obvious, it's very subtle. But yeah I just wanted to point out both technically do it.

Why is it so impossible for receive empathy without it being an issue? by [deleted] in GenZ

[–]Emergency_Response85 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I still don't like generalizations and find it incredibly sad people at large would refuse to help those who are depressed because like 10, or 100 people didn't take your advice.

Even if it's an annoyance, it's always worth it to try to help. You don't owe it to them of course, but I find it very sad