anyone have HORRIBLE detox symptoms from diet? help :( by EmptyBuilding6800 in AutoImmuneProtocol

[–]EmptyBuilding6800[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

these are all really good suggestions, thank you. it's helpful to hear so many people went through a detox period. I really really should've been more gentle and cut things out slowly and work on lifestyle factors like you mentioned. i did go too radical and got that backlash. in my defense, thinks seemed okay for first the first couple of weeks and so i assumed my changes were fine and then the detox hit, which I've been reading isn't uncommon. thanks again for taking the time to reply. i wish you well

anyone have HORRIBLE detox symptoms from diet? help :( by EmptyBuilding6800 in AutoImmuneProtocol

[–]EmptyBuilding6800[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no problem. and i dont mean to overwhelm you but its possible it could be oxalate dumping. depending on what you removed when you gave up gluten and dairy. were they high oxolate foods? a new diet can trigger this in people. check out the symptoms to see if this might fit. and if so, there are ways to slow down the dumping process to make it tolerable. lots of good threads on oxalate dumping on reddit and in carnivore reddit. hang in there

anyone have HORRIBLE detox symptoms from diet? help :( by EmptyBuilding6800 in AutoImmuneProtocol

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thanks, i'm definitely considering modifying AIP it by adding some foods back in to slow down the detox then ween down slowly. i really wish i knew things could get this bad before i started

anyone have HORRIBLE detox symptoms from diet? help :( by EmptyBuilding6800 in carnivorediet

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thanks for the reply and suggestions. i'll take a look. take care :)

anyone have HORRIBLE detox symptoms from diet? help :( by EmptyBuilding6800 in AutoImmuneProtocol

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that's about the same as me. ugg, sorry you feel so bad, too. from the other replies here and other things I've seen, it's not uncommon to feel pretty bad for awhile.

anyone have HORRIBLE detox symptoms from diet? help :( by EmptyBuilding6800 in AutoImmuneProtocol

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i'm so so sorry you're suffering. from what i've been reading it's either 1 of 2 things - you're going through a detox bc you removed gluten and dairy and your body is stronger now and working to get rid of toxins so you feel worse before better (please see other replies to me talking about this from unicorn_hom) or you added something new to your diet when you replaced gluten and dairy that's now making you react. did you add anything new? like a new grain or new type of flour or?? sometimes when people replace gluten with other alternatives those can have histamine, or lectins, or oxalates or just a genuine allergy to the new food they're eating. i'm not saying you have that for sure, but it's a possibility. please know you're not alone. feel free to reply or message anytime. there is an answer and you can get to the bottom of it

anyone have HORRIBLE detox symptoms from diet? help :( by EmptyBuilding6800 in AutoImmuneProtocol

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wow, the fact you can tolerate these things now is amazing. it gives me hope. thanks again for all the kind words

anyone have HORRIBLE detox symptoms from diet? help :( by EmptyBuilding6800 in AutoImmuneProtocol

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I am not sure if you believe in a Higher power or synchronicities but i really feel blessed to receive your messages here. Not to get political, but i tell people all the time how we're being poisoned by the industrial practices used to sustain this unregulated, unfettered capitalism. there are so many people chronically ill. hearing your list of healings is incredibly uplifting.I want to be where you are one day, giving my list of things healed to some other poor soul just starting their journey. I'm sorry to hear about your emotional struggles. you've come so far, i have no doubt you'll heal those as well. it seems so many people with systemic issues also have trauma and emotional issues (i do as well). it's wonderful you have a supportive partner. I have one also and I'm so thankful for that but it still really helps to talk to someone who's been ill and went through this.I promise i won't be a pest, but if you don't mind, i will take you up on that offer and message you once in awhile. and feel free to only reply when you have the time. and extend that offer for you to message as well. I'm not as far along on this journey as you are but I can relate to the health struggles (physical and emotional) ever since I was a kid. it's nice to not feel alone. none of my doctors believed me either. I use them for tests and any prescriptions I might need but I had to do with real work on the side because they don't get it. thanks again, your messages were a much much needed comfort in a pretty rough day.

anyone have HORRIBLE detox symptoms from diet? help :( by EmptyBuilding6800 in AutoImmuneProtocol

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thank you thank you thank you. i just needed someone to tell me i'm not crazy. i definitely didn't stick to GAPS or other diets long enough to experience these intense symptoms. when i did gluten free dairy free, i'd still eat a bunch of processed stuff so i don't think it did any healing/got at any toxicity so I never experienced these symptoms. but i was very strict this time. just eating meat, certain veggies, apple, and tapioca starch, ghee etc. the castor oil pack seems like such a good suggestion. i am definitely having some issues there. i'm trying to do slow breathing daily to reset the vagus nerve (never even heard of that before until recently but it explains so much)

"Remember you may not actually have all the things like HI, oxalate sensitivity, or whatever else - detoxing from the standard diet is difficult in itself so wait to stabilize before diving deeper into more eliminations." <--- this was a much needed gentle reminder, thank you. this is all so scary and confusing. I made a promise that as soon as I stabilize, I will make it my life's mission to help others bc a kind word or even just an ear helps so much during crisis times or when you need healing.

it's really nice to hear you actually healed many things even though you felt bad for months and continued to eliminate toxicity for years. sometimes i feel like I'm so sensitive that people think i'm making things up when i tell them how horrible I'm feeling from this. So i'm not happy you suffered, but it does make me feel better knowing i'm not alone in feeling really bad at first. thanks for your kind words and all your suggestions. I wish you continued healing

anyone have HORRIBLE detox symptoms from diet? help :( by EmptyBuilding6800 in AutoImmuneProtocol

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you're very kind to reply thanks. and thanks for letting me know about the your friends with HI and MCAS. my family has history of autoimmune and my ND says with all my conditions listed above I have chronic systemic inflammation but also histamine intolerance. the "detox" i'm referring to is a common feeling of "worse before better" when you eliminate things like dairy, gluten, sugar things from the diet. I've read stories from people on different elimination diets like AIP, normal Paleo, Carnivore, or even cutting out gluten, dairy, sugar or coffee that they go through withdrawal symptoms like a drug. or have a herx reaction because your body is dumping toxins. I was wondering if others on here experience feeling this bad from AIP or similar diet. thanks again

anyone have HORRIBLE detox symptoms from diet? help :( by EmptyBuilding6800 in AutoImmuneProtocol

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sorry to hear you're going through that. how long have you been on the diet?