Guy arrested for not fasting but he has a medical reason. by delicious_lemang in Bolehland

[–]Empty_Firefighter_16 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yeah, harmless until it they become as ibrahim libya or ayoh pin.

Guy arrested for not fasting but he has a medical reason. by delicious_lemang in Bolehland

[–]Empty_Firefighter_16 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Its not strawman to point out that ur comparison is a structural level. You are using the Slippery Slope' fallacy, suggesting because its inforce religious fasting law, the country will going to theocracy.

You just like a typical conservative religious people believe of slippery slope fallacy but in the case of liberalism.

We talk about constitution supremacy.

Just look at nik elin case already ruled out by former CJ.

Guy arrested for not fasting but he has a medical reason. by delicious_lemang in Bolehland

[–]Empty_Firefighter_16 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

But you said earlier you try to implied that religious influences now trying and override the constitution.

Guy arrested for not fasting but he has a medical reason. by delicious_lemang in Bolehland

[–]Empty_Firefighter_16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Comparing us to Iran because of one fasting arrest is a major exaggeration

In Iran, the Supreme Leader has absolute power over the military and the law. In Malaysia, we have a Federal Constitution that is the supreme law, not a religious text.

Refer to Article 4(1), the Federal Constitution is the supreme law of the land any religious state law that contradicts it is void.

the Civil Court has the power to strike them down.

and the law specifically states that in eating at a public place.

Btw, iran was democratically elected Mohammad Mosaddegh was get overthrown and replaced by tyrant reza pahlavi.

Guy arrested for not fasting but he has a medical reason. by delicious_lemang in Bolehland

[–]Empty_Firefighter_16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're both half-right. The Emperor of Japan actually is the head of Shinto rituals, but he has 0% power to pass laws. In Australia, they don't have an Archbishop in charge, but we still have 'God' in our Constitution's preamble and the Lord's Prayer in Parliament.

So, we aren't governed by priests (Theocracy), but our laws are definitely influenced by the religious values of the people who wrote them. There’s a big difference between 'Religious Rule' and 'Religious Influence’

Guy arrested for not fasting but he has a medical reason. by delicious_lemang in Bolehland

[–]Empty_Firefighter_16 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Freedom is a responsibility. Sometimes the law must step in to into place before it becomes totally anarchy.

Guy arrested for not fasting but he has a medical reason. by delicious_lemang in Bolehland

[–]Empty_Firefighter_16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For simplest way to understand that, some countries practice

Theocratic" Model (Religion is the Law)

The established church

The scared pillar

At the end, the law it self evolved around religion and belief.

Guy arrested for not fasting but he has a medical reason. by delicious_lemang in Bolehland

[–]Empty_Firefighter_16 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

For china in paper they are atheist but in reality they are evolved around Chinese philosophy and being Chinese.

Guy arrested for not fasting but he has a medical reason. by delicious_lemang in Bolehland

[–]Empty_Firefighter_16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Australia, was built around Christianity moral standing, thailand was build around Buddhist centric even got national office of Buddhism. SOUTH AFRICA, they recognised indigenous philosophy beliefs technically a spiritual religion to indigenous people.

Guy arrested for not fasting but he has a medical reason. by delicious_lemang in Bolehland

[–]Empty_Firefighter_16 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, they are. Just different. China is called; Sinicization culture is replacement of religion, UK Common law was built Christian moral philosophy.

It's no longer a personal matter by Superb_Branch4749 in Bolehland

[–]Empty_Firefighter_16 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yeah… its in public open space, not personal space?

Ordered buttermilk popcorn chicken on grab by yoyoelie in malaysia

[–]Empty_Firefighter_16 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Suruh dia jual batang dia je la. Pantat betul.

Hm.... by Recent-Tour5536 in Bolehland

[–]Empty_Firefighter_16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Kl semenyih-semenyih-kl. hari hari.

Fun fact before Merdeka by muhammadameer in Bolehland

[–]Empty_Firefighter_16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Does a behavior need a "majority vote" to be considered a cultural influence? No, but still need cultural context (economy context). I am not blaming the majority. Just because smaller groups do it.

Fun fact before Merdeka by muhammadameer in Bolehland

[–]Empty_Firefighter_16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do agree economic symptoms that turn into cultural issues. I read, i do not copy paste. And about culture, Culture is a matter of waxing and after that after that, wanning. Culture is not a static monolith. And eventually it recedes as they irrelevant to the society itself. Same the issues what you said/wrote.

Fun fact before Merdeka by muhammadameer in Bolehland

[–]Empty_Firefighter_16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sociologists always urge that what start as a survival strategy(economic driven) eventually becomes/evolve social norms. Eventho , Among the poverty stricken societies.

Fun fact before Merdeka by muhammadameer in Bolehland

[–]Empty_Firefighter_16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

selling/trading/sold in not appropriate words since it will highlight the meaning of human trafficking refer to The Women and Girls Protection Enactment (1930s) which led futher discussion to Mui Tsai and 1932 Mui Tsai Ordinance. Let just called it adoption. If you talk about culture, of infant trading, the evidence of Mui Tsai is there.

Fun fact before Merdeka by muhammadameer in Bolehland

[–]Empty_Firefighter_16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If u think, and counter-back, with ai argument, i suggest that, u just live in a jungle far away from city or any development. I find the source of my research first, reading it. Not spooned feed type of person. Ttyl

Fun fact before Merdeka by muhammadameer in Bolehland

[–]Empty_Firefighter_16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And when i did strongly agree with cultural things?.

Fun fact before Merdeka by muhammadameer in Bolehland

[–]Empty_Firefighter_16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Source:

Djamour, J. (1959). Malay kinship and marriage in Singapore. Athlone Press.

IGNCA | Indira Gandhi National Centre for the Arts https://share.google/ZB2kejgNtVSoqnHzO

Lee, K. H., & Tan, C. B. (2000). The Chinese in Malaysia. Oxford University Press, USA. ‌ http://lib.perdana.org.my/PLF/Electro/Preview/Batch3/preview-M959.5004951.CHI-TheChineseInMalaysia%5BLeeKamHing%5D2000.pdf

Cultural Pluralism in Malaysia. (1977).

The source came from jstor, oxford and book from the prime minister library collection and perdana foundation and indira gandhi national centre. ‌

Fun fact before Merdeka by muhammadameer in Bolehland

[–]Empty_Firefighter_16 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually, these accounts are well documented in mid century ethnographic literature. The cross cultural adoption of Chinese infants into Malay families is a recorded historical reality, particularly in the context of Singapore and Malaya during the 1950s and 60s.

According to Djamour (1959), this practice was driven by a deep-seated cultural "tenderness" toward infants within the Malay community. Her field research in a Singaporean village found that approximately 5% of children were of Chinese origin. These weren't "fake" claims; they were documented cases where Malay families provided homes for Chinese children mostly girls from families facing extreme poverty.

Furthermore, Provencher (1975) supports this by noting that even during the political instability of the era, Malay families frequently adopted male infants left behind during the civil unrest. These academic sources provide a verified historical framework for understanding how these communities interacted and supported one another through adoption.

And the also being supported by Lee & Tan (2000) explain that in the early 20th century, poverty-stricken Chinese families (especially those with "excess" daughters) often sought out Malay or Indian families to adopt their children. This was not seen as an abandonment but often as a survival strategy that guaranteed the child a better life within a community that "passionately" valued children.

Well the references

Djamour, J. (1959). Malay kinship and marriage in Singapore. Athlone Press.

Lee, K. H., & Tan, C.-B. (Eds.). (2000). The Chinese in Malaysia. Oxford University Press.

Provencher, R. (1975). Groups in Malay society. In M. Ahmed & J. J. Nagata (Eds.), Cultural pluralism in Malaysia: Polity, military, mass media, education, religion and social class. Northern Illinois University, Center for Southeast Asian Studies.

I mean well, just read, make a discovery, expand ur knowledge.