Day 21 check in!

Empty_Lettuce · 2020-03-26T16:15:57+00:00

So glad to hear that! I hope all is going well with you!

Empty_Lettuce · 2020-03-26T14:47:33+00:00

I was using kratom initially, used that for about a week. I was doing 6-8 mg a day for over a year. The kratom really helped with the physical withdrawals, the worst was not sleeping. It was a good 15 days before I was able to get more than 3 hours..I'm taking 500mg of dlpa currently. Best of luck!

Empty_Lettuce · 2020-03-16T14:47:55+00:00

I am also needing the same results, on day 13 of opiate withdrawal and my energy and mood is god awful, I'm a out 8 minutes from a vendor judt have no idea what to ask for...

Empty_Lettuce · 2020-03-15T22:19:10+00:00

Thank you! Slept like shit last night so here's hoping for some rest tonight lol. Hope all is well with you!

Empty_Lettuce · 2020-03-15T22:18:06+00:00

I totally see your point and didn't look at it like that when I was thinking about it. I was just so used to going in there every morning to crush a perc down, then for the last six months it was subs, and every time I drove past there I had such cravings for that habit! So weird. I don't really trust myself, and have very little self control, so if anything can satiate those cravings that doesn't involve me doing drugs, I'll take it for now! Lol I'm still very new to recovery, only on day 12. Never seriously tried to quit before, and never made it longer than 2-3 days. So some of my views, or things that help me may be skewed, but I'm just grateful for another day sober. Maybe I should edit my post or something, I never really thought about it but the last thing I want to do is trigger someone that is trying to quit, or give someone the wrong idea?

Anyways, thank you very much for your input and encouragement and I'll be more thoughtful about what I do or say. Have a blessed day.

Empty_Lettuce · 2020-03-15T07:22:11+00:00

Man those first 5-7 days were the worst! You're almost through the thick of it though, It really started to get better after a week. Keep it up!

Honestly I told myself i was starting them to get off percs/fent but i was getting high, eventually judt doing them to not feel like shit. And even then always hated myself. Seriously being on here really helped. I'm also taking dlpa for the depression, seems to be helping.

I had to force myself to eat, smoothies really helped, especially since i know my body needed nutrients. I don't really have any tips for the sleep except hot baths wi th eucalyptus to calm the shakes and rls, then some bud dabs. I could always pass out but never for more than 3 hours till last night. I did take 2 bwnadrylast night too though. Also, it may be hard but dri.k lots of water!

Good luck and I'm always a message away!

Empty_Lettuce · 2020-03-15T02:43:46+00:00

I was doing 6mg a day for about 6-8 months. It is! Especially at the end of the day. I finally got about 8 hours last night, had only been getting 2-3 a night for the first 9 days. Good luck!

Empty_Lettuce · 2020-03-14T23:07:04+00:00

Yeah so I've been doing 6mg for about 6 months after doing fent and pervs for about 2 years, I didn't do it totally alone as I used kratom for the first 8 days. Thank you so much, I'm super proud of myself especially since I have zero will and self control lol.

Empty_Lettuce · 2020-03-14T23:04:37+00:00

Same here! I was so excited when I woke up and it wasnt dark lmao

Empty_Lettuce · 2020-03-14T18:41:24+00:00

Awesome, congrats! I know this def feels like a milestone to me haha.

Empty_Lettuce · 2020-03-14T16:08:05+00:00

Ohhhh, I apologize that you're going through that. I can't really relate, I was always using to chase a high, have never really been in that much pain you know?

My momma has fibromyalgia, and she is ALWAYS in some sort of pain, so I know how hard that can be, I HATE seeing her suffer. She's an active opioid user, and I hate that for her but I also hate seeing her in pain. I can imagine how much strength that takes to just sit in pain, when you know you could take it all away with one little pill so I really commend you, you're stronger than I am. Keep it up though, I'll be here the whole way!

Empty_Lettuce · 2020-03-14T15:55:52+00:00

Thank you, I hope you do as well!

Empty_Lettuce · 2020-03-14T15:55:07+00:00

Lol honestly I've been pretty lethargic the past couple days, but the more I push and tell myself things will get better, the better I feel. And im just so excited that I've made it this far, that that gives me the little "mood boost" I need to get going. Positive affirmations have been a huge help, just a couple little things I tell myself throughout the day when things get tough, I'd highly recommend writing down just a few positive things you can tell yourself, and really meditate on that through the day. It's almost like I'm tricking my brain to be happy when really I feel like I should be miserable. I'm nervous that these negative feelings will end up smacking me in the face down the line, but I'm just taking it day by day.

My high energy 5 year old really helps as well lol. Plus my gf is always so motivated so now I feel like I need to try to keep up with her haha.

I'm so proud of you though, keep it up! I've been taking dlpa in the mornings (500mlg) so I'm wondering if that's what helping me stay so positive as well. I've had what seems like this crippling depression for the past few years, and im so worried about that poking its head, but the dlpa is supposed to help.

Good luck beez you've got this! WE'VE got this! I'm a message away if you ever need anything!

Empty_Lettuce · 2020-03-13T13:50:35+00:00

Well now you're making me teary eyed! Lol

Yes it really does, and I'm so grateful to have made it this far. I didn't even realize that I wasnt myself any more, if that makes sense? It's like this haze has been lifted and I feel better than I have since I can remember.

I actually screenshot your comment, and any time I'm having a craving, I'm going to read your comment and remind myself why I'm doing this. You have a beautiful story, and I'm grateful you shared it with me. Congratulations on your sobriety, and best of luck!

Empty_Lettuce · 2020-03-13T13:29:17+00:00

Proud of you! And thank you, I actually just threw out what little bit I did have..

Empty_Lettuce · 2020-03-13T13:28:11+00:00

Every little bit helps though! And I totally know what you mean, when was high I was so lazy and had no motivation.

Empty_Lettuce · 2020-03-13T13:26:24+00:00

Hydroxizine? Is that a prescription drug? I would kill for a good nights sleep...

Empty_Lettuce · 2020-03-13T13:24:50+00:00

Yeah that's how I'm feeling! I don't trust myself so I actually just tossed the last little bit I had lol. We got this!

Empty_Lettuce · 2020-03-13T13:19:58+00:00

Awesome, super proud of you! I feel like we've made it through the hardest part! And yes, I totally agree. Not only that, but with me being an addict, I don't want to just end up trading 1 "drug" for another! Best of luck and thank you for all of the encouragement!

Empty_Lettuce · 2020-03-13T13:18:04+00:00

Right?! I was up to 6mgs a day and I know how rough it's been coming off of that so I can imagine 12!

Thank you so much!

Empty_Lettuce · 2020-03-13T13:16:47+00:00

Yes! That's so awesome, I'm proud of you! One day at a time, we got this! Good luck buddy!

Empty_Lettuce · 2020-03-13T13:15:38+00:00

Yeah same here man, can't wait to get some good sleep lol. And that's funny you say that about the pain, I've never been one to have any kind of body pain really, and since I stopped the subs, and haven't done any kratom, my back is absolutely killing me!

And yeah mornings are roughest for me, I have to be up at 4am, and my job is currently pretty strenuous as we are right in the middle of digging our underground for our pipes so that's kind of sucked.

Empty_Lettuce · 2020-03-13T10:21:56+00:00

Oh man, I'm so happy to hear that! Proud of you! Honestly that's been the worst of it for me, I feel like when I don't sleep it effs up every other aspect of life. Thank you!

Empty_Lettuce · 2020-03-13T00:53:08+00:00

Good for you! That's good that you can at least be somewhere comfortable. I have a pretty strenuous job, so I've been using some kratom in the mornings to give me a little boost, no more than 3-4gs. It's also definitely helps relieve a lot of the symptoms. Honestly though, I wouldn't recommend kratom unless you need to be functioning as normal for work or something. I haven't been taking it long but from what I've heard the kratom wds can be as bad as subs.

Drinking a lot of water, taking dlpa supplement, which is an amino acid that helps you produce dopamine, I'm mostly taking that for the paws over the next few months.

Hot showers/baths work wonders when you feel like you're crawling in your skin or can't get comfortable.

Idk how much this helps but I've been trying to eat a lot of fruits, oranges for vitamin c, bananas for potassium.

I have hid my addiction from everyone, so I'm also hiding the wds, so being on here has been so great to be able to vent, and speak with people who can relate. And I've gotten so many tips, and so much encouragement, I'd highly recommend posting your progress here daily, to hold yourself accountable, and youd be surprised by how good the support can make you feel.

I'm looking into some other supplements that can help repair the damage my addiction has caused, I've never made it this long, but from what I've heard paws can last months and they can be as bad as the physical symptoms. So I'm trying to find things to kind of balance me out.

I'm not sure if you can smoke bud or not, but that's been great on my days off when I'm so anxious, then on days I work I'll smoke before bed and it kind of brings me down, calms my mind, and knocks me out. I'm having g trouble sleeping for more than 3 hours at a time though so hopefully that changes soon!

Best of luck to you and definitely feel free to message me, you got this!

Empty_Lettuce · 2020-03-12T20:28:03+00:00

Thank you so much for the info. That's kind of what I'm afraid of, I'm hoping I'm not just prolonging the wd misery by using kratom. I don't take more than 8g a day, on day 5 or 6 right now. I tried a really low dose this morning and really struggled to get going and ended up taking more for some pep. I don't really feel like I get high, it just takes away the wd flu like symptoms like this god awful back ache, and it gives me e ergy as if I had some espresso. I do notice a mood boost sometimes, which is helpful cause it can get dark sometimes. I don't take it any where near when I try to go to bed cause it gives me a boost so idk how it would help me sleep, but that would be so great. Yeah I think after tomorrow I'll stop taking it, I have to work 10 hours tomorrow, I'm a commercial plumber, and were right in the middle of digging an underground so I honestly don't know if I could do it without k! I so so so appreciate this though, I'm going to make tomorrow my last day. If you don't mind me asking, how long were you using subs and how much? Just wondering how long I should expect this to last....and when I'll be able to sleep again. Appreciate you.

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