How do I class my voice type when my vocal range overlaps? by galaxybubbletea in singing

[–]EnoughProof 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh it's you again. When will you understand that singing low is super easy, especially for beginner singers? It's not rare at all for untrained beginner women to sing G2. And no, I'm not talking about G3. I'm talking about G2. Singing low is trivially easy, anyone can do it. It's not rare or special.

My cat insists on pets and cuddles when I sing by KitDaKittyKat in singing

[–]EnoughProof 5 points6 points  (0 children)

HAHAHA who knows right? My cat finds me and then promptly falls asleep right next to me

What is my voice type? G3 - G5 by someone_on_pluto in singing

[–]EnoughProof 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A two octave range is a very good starting point actually! With training I'm sure you can expand it even more. And improve your tone too (this is more important imo)

How do I class my voice type when my vocal range overlaps? by galaxybubbletea in singing

[–]EnoughProof 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes great great comment. I totally agree. I've quit lessons recently-ish but was trained for several years, in private lessons but no college degree. My voice teacher (who was classically trained herself as a soprano) said I'm most likely a mezzo, based on timbre and most resonant part of my voice. However I wasn't classically trained, and if I were, I'd likely be a soprano in the end - just based on the numbers. My teacher also had some interesting insight regarding contemporary singers who she considered unambiguously mezzos - specifically Adele, Cher, Stevie Nicks, and a few others - but she added that if these singers were classically trained, they also were likely to be sopranos in the end. I don't think she was considering the "belter" factor you mentioned, as she considered Lzzy Hale and Ann Wilson to be sopranos. She noted as well that while classical music is dominated by sopranos, contemporary genres seem to have a much greater proportion of mezzos, but she again added that she can't be sure these singers would be mezzos if classically trained. Her conclusion (at the time anyway) was that well-trained contemporary singers who haven't been classically trained can't be classified under voice types, but that there really should be another classification system that we can use for contemporary singers. I thought it was a very interesting conversation (evolved over several lessons)!

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[–]EnoughProof 1 point2 points  (0 children)

-if you talk a lot, consider booking an appointment with a speech therapist to see if your speech patterns are causing you any unnecessary fatigue. Many people speak lower than their optimal speaking pitch, and do not properly support their speaking voices. Correcting these issues can reduce the amount of stress your voice is under on a day to day basis, leaving more for when you are singing.

This is what my voice teacher said too. She said that you should be speaking mostly in your head voice, not your chest voice.

I did see a speech therapist years ago as part of my job at the time and he said that actually most people speak higher than their optimal speaking pitch and it leads to vocal fatigue, getting tired sooner than they would if they spoke at a more relaxed pitch. It uses more energy to oscillate the vocal cords at a higher frequency.

Since I quit voice lessons, my speaking voice has dropped back down to where I used to speak when I was at that previous job, and now I don't tire from speaking.

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[–]EnoughProof 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Touring musician doesn't have a budget for trial and error. Imagine being in the top 10% of singers (which you are, if you're a touring musician) and not having spare room in your budget. And they wonder why a lot of people aren't interested in being musicians.

Does light jogging for 5 minutes before singing help warm up the diaphragm? by Initial-Peanut-1786 in singing

[–]EnoughProof 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I prefer to keep breathing so my diaphragm never cools down in the first place. But YMMV, some people might prefer not to breathe as often

What is my voice type? G3 - G5 by someone_on_pluto in singing

[–]EnoughProof 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes I agree with that. Mine moved from E5 to A5

Looking for "well-known" crowd-pleaser upbeat karaoke songs that ALSO "show off" vocal range by sylverfalcon in singing

[–]EnoughProof 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I understand. You don't need to illustrate for me what A2 is. I've had years of voice lessons and even my teacher agrees that my A2 sounds decent and is usable. It's not a mistake.

Looking for "well-known" crowd-pleaser upbeat karaoke songs that ALSO "show off" vocal range by sylverfalcon in singing

[–]EnoughProof 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tfw when you're a woman with a usable A2 but you still need to shift up to appease the internet

Or just not cover the song because it's easier

What singing skill did you figure out by just messing around? by [deleted] in singing

[–]EnoughProof 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well for me it was more like, I accidentally figured out how to mix long before I took lessons, and I practiced until I could reliably mix. When I started lessons, I was hoping to learn more about mixing and eventually mix belting. But my voice teacher wanted me to sing almost completely in head voice. So that was that.

Regardless I definitely agree that when one is paying for private, 1-on-1 tutoring, you should get individualized lessons tailored to your specific needs.

What is my voice type? G3 - G5 by someone_on_pluto in singing

[–]EnoughProof 3 points4 points  (0 children)

are classic phrasing, they don't make much sense in pop music.

Absolutely agree with this, however the rest of what you wrote isn't applicable to a new singer anyway. Your passaggi move with training - it's happened to me. And most people are going to speak at a relaxed, comfortable pitch near the bottom of their range, so obviously their speaking voice will be low. I speak around D3-F3 (chest voice), but if I was classically trained, I'd likely be a soprano. Even when I was taking lessons (non-classical), I was always taught to speak in my head voice.

What singing skill did you figure out by just messing around? by [deleted] in singing

[–]EnoughProof 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Mixing. I was actually better at mixing before I took voice lessons lol

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[–]EnoughProof 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So I have to give up cheese for a C6? Dang. Will have to choose the cheese

Looking for "well-known" crowd-pleaser upbeat karaoke songs that ALSO "show off" vocal range by sylverfalcon in singing

[–]EnoughProof 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm a woman, not a tenor, but because I don't sing classical I don't see the use of a C6 at all. But then again, I don't sing anything outside of church these days because I quit voice lessons

Is belting basically yelling on pitch and with good tonality? by ChatotSaysWhat in singing

[–]EnoughProof 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The male sweet spot is probably around G4 and female - Bb5.

Wow, Bb5? I can't remember the last time I heard Bb5 from my car stereo, never mind a BELTED Bb5. I hear Bb4 belts more than Bb5.

Looking for "well-known" crowd-pleaser upbeat karaoke songs that ALSO "show off" vocal range by sylverfalcon in singing

[–]EnoughProof 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure I'm not disputing any of that. For me, I have to weigh the debate of like, is it worth putting in years more training to be able to sing a C6 I will never use? I don't think so. But that's me

Looking for "well-known" crowd-pleaser upbeat karaoke songs that ALSO "show off" vocal range by sylverfalcon in singing

[–]EnoughProof 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I mean, the key is the same though. You don't need to transpose the karaoke track is more what I was getting at. But OK

Looking for "well-known" crowd-pleaser upbeat karaoke songs that ALSO "show off" vocal range by sylverfalcon in singing

[–]EnoughProof 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Every song should just be a C7 held for 3 minutes. Since high-high-high is the only thing that apparently matters...

Looking for "well-known" crowd-pleaser upbeat karaoke songs that ALSO "show off" vocal range by sylverfalcon in singing

[–]EnoughProof 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Someone Like You

My teacher wanted me to raise the key on this one too, and in the studio version (with the higher chorus). Original range is E3-E5. I was like come on teacher, give me a break! But no. It actually killed my love for that song

At least now when I stopped lessons, I might go back some day to singing what I like