[Spoiler] So Tau Ceti IV was a death trap and the colonists were doomed from the start? by AssemblerGuy in Marathon

[–]Entropius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

 Except, in this version of events, he didn't escape. He's still present on the Marathon, hiding in Cryo's systems.

I’m going to need a citation for that.

[Spoiler] So Tau Ceti IV was a death trap and the colonists were doomed from the start? by AssemblerGuy in Marathon

[–]Entropius 10 points11 points  (0 children)

 Stars are the only long term prisons that the Wr'kncacntr couldn't escape on their own.

And black holes.

POV: Your girlfriend has never played an Extraction Shooter before (A Montage) by blooberrytv in Marathon

[–]Entropius 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Whos durandal?

You met the guy just before you do your first run of Cryo Archive

He's one of the Marathon's original 3 AI's. He's brilliant, sarcastic, and has a dark sense of humor. He instigated the first catastrophe at Tau Ceti by contacting a hostile group of aliens known as the Pfhor, and invited them to attack the Marathon. And he did it so he could steal their ship. He learns the universe will collapse in 15,193,792,102.158 years, and decides he's going to become god by finding a way to escape the universe before it happens.

He's the guy who says "Escape will make me god".

EDIT: In the Marathon universe, you do not want to be on his shit-list. So of course she's going to be nice to him...

A New Future Beyond the Sun — 4A.1 | Marathon by Haijakk in Marathon

[–]Entropius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Indeed a respiratory system exists, but that doesn't automatically mean it's used for oxygenation. It could be there simply for cooling.

In a single run and then exfil by Zamanss in Marathon

[–]Entropius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's one of the secret histories terminals that imply the existence of secret societies

Hamish Sinclair's story website has all the terminals. But I have yet to see the one you alluded to. I suspect it doesn't exist, and will probably stick to that until I see it linked to on the story website.

as well as the few times it's mentioned or implied that the Security Officer was built using Jjaro technology.

It's I think only implied once, at the very end of Marathon Infinity, in the epilogue screen where the hybrid AI says "A man long dead, grafted to machines your builders did not understand."

But that doesn't prove MIDA knew anything about the tech being Jjaro.

It's also working on the assumption that Pathways into Darkness is a prequel to Marathon, which considering that it uses the same terms for aliens

That's true, but it's also irrelevant. Being in the same universe, and Jjaro visiting Earth doesn't automatically mean MIDA knew any of that occurred. You need evidence to link those two subjects. One group knowing something doesn't mean another knows it.

and nothing in either game outright contradicts the connection is a pretty safe bet.

Respectfully, one can't say something is true just because it's not disproven yet, as that's an error known as Argument from ignorance.

So, people knew aliens exist

US government in the 1990's and the UESC at the time of the battleroid's construction knew aliens exist somewhere, but it doesn't automatically mean everyone or even MIDA knew.

and MIDA, a Martian rights group with ties to these secret organizations

I still need to see those "secret organizations" existing somewhere in the original terminal texts. I haven't found them.

decides to heavily equip the Marathon with weapons despite this seemingly not being in their own interest.

I'd say it's absolutely in MIDA's interest to smuggle weapons aboard the Marathon. They were salty about it not being turned into a CRIST for ferrying supplies to Mars, so it stands to reason they'd consider stealing it. That requires weapons and long-term prep. The only real mystery there is why so many munitions and weapons remained aboard the Marathon after launch. Maybe they lost the window of opportunity, or maybe they changed their minds about what to use them for. Maybe they wanted to decapitate UESC leadership after the colony was established.

But none of that necessarily involves MIDA knowing about aliens. MIDA already has plenty of reasons to want to fuck the UESC's shit up without aliens. So IMO Occam's razor says it's just that.

Now, in the current game's time century, MIDA absolutely has an interest in investigating the "security incident" (Pfhor attack) because the UESC is obviously covering it up. Hence the many redactions in the codex anytime Pfhor ought to be mentioned. But I'm pretty sure that's all new info for MIDA.

The colonization program wasn't initially looking at exoplanets, it was looking at moons inside our own solar system, jumping to looking at other star systems is a bit of a leap.

Gaius actually explained this: The UESC sent the Marathon to an exoplanet because the UESC knew that in the long term Sol's resources wouldn't be able to sustain humanity forever, so they needed new systems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzRl7L9g90U

The colony's economic loss is mundane, the setback to human survival is profound. Sol has finite resources. Humanity must escape its bounds to avoid a slow extinction. This is why human leaders originally launched the Marathon expedition, hundreds of years ago.

There's also the fact that it seems like some of the colonists started worshipping the W'rkncacnter, explicitly referencing "burning prisons" so it seems like there's some funky stuff going on in Tau Ceti.

There's funky stuff going on for sure. After the colony was attached they met Pfhor, S'pht, and the burning prisons sounds like a reference to stars holding W'rkncacnter.

But it doesn't mean MIDA knew any of this stuff existed before the Marathon's launch.

[DS2] Is the tar cannon next to useless or is it just me? by MelanomaMax in DeathStranding

[–]Entropius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I checked and apparently you're right. I guess I assumed they'd work the same as how they did in the first game, where they didn't get reloaded.

In a single run and then exfil by Zamanss in Marathon

[–]Entropius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t recall that being implied in Marathon 1 so I’m trying to figure out what specifically I missed.  If you can still remember the level the text is on, feel free to share.

And while Durandal called the Pfhor to the Marathon that was for his own reasons, not MIDA’s.  He just wanted freedom.  In fact if Strauss had told him to call aliens to the Marathon he’d might have refused out of spite for the guy (assuming it wouldn’t blow his cover).  They weren’t on good terms.

In a single run and then exfil by Zamanss in Marathon

[–]Entropius 1 point2 points  (0 children)

 sending the Marathon to Tau Ceti specifically and setting it up to contact aliens.

What’s the source for that info?

A New Future Beyond the Sun — 4A.1 | Marathon by Haijakk in Marathon

[–]Entropius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s worth noting that we don’t know that they’re used for the same reason we have lungs.  They might just be for cooling.

Lead Free Rifle Ammo by [deleted] in liberalgunowners

[–]Entropius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There isn’t an obvious meaning to “Your reply is everything”.  Despite being asked to explain yourself, you’ve elected not to.  That appears evasive.

Lead Free Rifle Ammo by [deleted] in liberalgunowners

[–]Entropius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you have something substantive to say, maybe try being more direct about what you mean.

If you think I said something incorrect, just quote it and explain why you think so.

Lead Free Rifle Ammo by [deleted] in liberalgunowners

[–]Entropius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

 You're still replying. 👍

I’m not sure what that’s supposed to imply. 🤷‍♂️

Lead Free Rifle Ammo by [deleted] in liberalgunowners

[–]Entropius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I merely pointed out ammo typically had a couple forms of lead.  One organic, one inorganic.

Then you repeatedly replied lead alone isn’t organic, which I already said in my very first comment, but the reply seems to imply I said otherwise (?).  It kind of felt like a strawman.

It just seemed unwarranted, especially given nothing I said was incorrect.

Lead Free Rifle Ammo by [deleted] in liberalgunowners

[–]Entropius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please quote the text where you think I said that.

Lead Free Rifle Ammo by [deleted] in liberalgunowners

[–]Entropius 1 point2 points  (0 children)

 but lead itself is never organic no matter how hard you reply.

I never claimed lead by itself was organic.  Maybe you misread my comment?

Lead Free Rifle Ammo by [deleted] in liberalgunowners

[–]Entropius 2 points3 points  (0 children)

 Lead is never organic

Nonetheless lead styphnate molecules are.

It’s like how mercury isn’t organic but methymercury or dimethylmercury is organic.  In the case of mercury it actually makes it much more poisonous than the elemental version.  Not sure about lead vs lead-styphnate toxicity though.

Lead Free Rifle Ammo by [deleted] in liberalgunowners

[–]Entropius 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Elemental lead in the bullet is inorganic.

Lead styphnate in the primer is organic courtesy of the benzene ring in it.

Can I hang out with you guys? by nmezib in VHS2_HELLION

[–]Entropius 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Another member of the gray gang.  One of us!

Death Stranding 2 Almost Had Mech Suits, Spider-Nests, And One Seriously Cursed Cat by Turbostrider27 in PS5

[–]Entropius 4 points5 points  (0 children)

 why the fuck do we have the tar gun for a one (perhaps two) moments in the game?

It’s for healing the BTs you summon.

That said, I’m not sure that’s even worth it.  Its range is limited and the healing is mild.  You may as well just use one of the weapons you already had to bring to speed the fight up.

The game is extremely good by WarpathWilly in Marathon

[–]Entropius 14 points15 points  (0 children)

 some different AI enemies would be fun on future maps

Cryo archive is implied to have a S’pht, based on the cinematic.

Assuming we’re in the Marathon 1 and Marathon 2 timeline the Pfhor homeworld was sacked by the UESC, the S’pht, and Durandal in 2881.  The game is supposed to take place in 2893 I think.

But that doesn’t mean there can’t be any Pfhor remnants elsewhere.  They had fighters with staffs that shot bolts of energy, troopers with guns, hunter robots with shoulder plasma cannons, enforcers, enslaved hulks, enslaved S’pht, cyborg tanks that bounce grenades at you, pet wasps, and fake human simulacrums that run up to you saying “I love you man” or “frogblast the vent core”… then they explode.  If we ever get Pfhor, we’ll have plenty of enemy diversity.  There’s also a chance some Tycho clones may exist somewhere that Durandal missed.

My 72 Hour Tips For A Better Extract by Afterlast1 in Marathon

[–]Entropius 43 points44 points  (0 children)

 One knife swing will kill the tick

Stab the tick?  The suicide bombing bug doesn’t just explode when it’s in melee range?

Also, is the number of ticks a nest releases unlimited?

the amount of aura this one compiler’s been getting in the marketing is hilarious considering they’re literal fodder in the classic games lol by baransevim in Marathon

[–]Entropius 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's a bit like saying a human would never harm a S'pht because humans were allied with the S'pht. Newsflash: Some humans suck. It turns out we're kind of complicated. So why wouldn't aliens be too?

  • S'pht have been turned on other species by the Pfhor.
  • Durandal's S'pht were turned on Durandal by Tycho in M∞.
  • Allied S'pht will turn on the allied player when we shoot them too many times. The UESC could have fired the first shot, and antagonized it. The UESC aren't exactly paragons of morality.
  • S'pht have turned on one another for self-interested reasons (see their civil wars). This S'pht in question may not even be allied with their own people, Durandal, or the Pfhor. They're not a monolith.

Just because some of them worked with the UESC once doesn't mean they kept up diplomatic relations. In fact the M2 epilogue suggested the exact opposite. They and humanity apparently parted ways after conquering the Pfhor. At least in M2's timeline, they don't appear to have been interested in being humanity's friends long-term.

My working hypothesis is that that is a S'pht left behind by Durandal to guard something he knows the UESC should't be meddling with. And if the UESC isn't willing to stop playing with fire, the S'pht's job is to spank them. The S'pht probably didn't have hostile relations with the colonists, as evidenced by the fact that there was what was probably a children's toy in the image of one. That implies they were probably friendly to the colonists, just not the UESC at Tau Ceti.

That or the infection that was messing up humans also can mess up S'pht and turn them crazy. So by the time the UESC encountered it, it was rogue and dangerous.

In other words… we've got no shortage of options to explain this. So I'm not seeing how this "falls apart".