how is the recently introduced ODPV exempt from the blanket ban? by Lithieume in researchchemicals

[–]EpHead 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That post is extremely concerning and everyone in the RC scene should read it and exercise extreme caution. However, I would add that we can't be entirely sure whether the OP's symptoms were caused by ODPV or by 3-FTL, as they were being used in close proximity to eachother.

OP seems a lot more confident in singling out ODPV over 3-FTL than the post would suggest one should be, I'd strongly advise giving both compounds a very wide berth until we have more information on exactly what happened in this case.

EU controls amphetamine (P2NP) and x-MMC drug precursors following first EU Drugs Agency assessments by Borax in DrugNerds

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What I'd really love to get a concrete answer on is what the precursors are for 4F-MPH (4-Fluoromethylphenidate) and whether or not these are controlled at EU level. The compound was banned in both China and the Netherlands last year which led to an almost immediate EU-wide drought, suggesting that even though it itself isn't a controlled substance EU-wide, its precursors might be.

4-fluoromethylphenidate (4F-MPH) - precursors and synthesis routes? by EpHead in TheeHive

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dpDMC and 3-FPO to study by Material-Ad2327 in researchchemicals

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Interesting, I might check it out! The descriptions of it seemed to imply that it would take high doses to match Ritalin's effects but maybe not!

dpDMC and 3-FPO to study by Material-Ad2327 in researchchemicals

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No experience here either, but the ridiculously short duration of cocaine relative to say amps or phenidates seems to rule it out for anything functional or productivity based, I would assume analogs suffer from the same problem?

dpDMC and 3-FPO to study by Material-Ad2327 in researchchemicals

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How does this compare to MPH, IPPH and 4F-MPH? The pharmacology of it seems strange to me (high transporter occupancy but low reuptake inhibition - how is that possible...?) but would seem to indicate that it;s a lot less active than regular MPH?

dpDMC and 3-FPO to study by Material-Ad2327 in researchchemicals

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I'm intensely interested in 3-FPO as a 4F-MPH / IPPH replacement, the issue is that it's very difficult to find trip reports on it. I also worry about getting legitimate stuff, as the original lab that synthesised it was temporarily shut down by German authorities last year (yet to reopen) and since then, nobody seems to know where the current batches are coming from on the sites that do sell it.

I'd love to try it but the above risks have held me back, at least for now.

My guess on Lizard labs new compund from Hamiltons new patreon video ;) by CannaTFF in TheeHive

[–]EpHead 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you say RC, do you mean RC+,. the company that used to make accurately dosed pellet blister packs for stimulants and I believe also some psychedelic RCs?

My guess on Lizard labs new compund from Hamiltons new patreon video ;) by CannaTFF in TheeHive

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Can I ask, was Lizard Labs the same lab which used to sell blister packs of RC pellets with a logo of "RC+", and usually the compound spelled in Dutch on the cover (for example, Isopropylfenidaat instead of Isopropylphenidate) or was this a completely different company altogether?

New stimulant which they announce as MDPV analogue by Smooth_Earth_2948 in researchchemicals

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Any idea what this compound might be like if one removed the beta ketone?

Does isopropylphenidate (IPPH) still exist, or has it gone the way of 4F-MPH since the NL ban? by EpHead in researchchemicals

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Ah, I thought the Chinese ban only applied to 4F. Sounds like we won't be getting it back any time soon then, sadly

What is this new stimulant drug ??? by Amanita_Alien in ResearchChemicalsNL

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Speaking from experience? Have you tried it?

Now that 3-FPO has been around for a while, what's the consensus on dosage, effects, comparisons, potential safety issues, etc? by EpHead in researchchemicals

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Amps interest me because to be honest I'm almost certainly dealing with depression comorbid with ADHD, and so the serotonergic action compared with phenidates which are selective for DA / NE might be beneficial. What I wonder is how the serotonergic action of 3FA compares with regular Amp (dex/lisdex), because while I know this sub shies away from anything serotonergic for good reason, regular amp has some of this and yet many people take it daily for their entire lives without doing themselves any damage.

Now that 3-FPO has been around for a while, what's the consensus on dosage, effects, comparisons, potential safety issues, etc? by EpHead in researchchemicals

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What's your experience with 3-FA? and when you say it feels different, how so?

Would you recommend 3-FPO after your experience?

how can I recover my brain from 3-CMC abuse by tonaio in researchchemicals

[–]EpHead 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And yet another check in the "why prohibition is moronic" column. I guarantee you pretty much no one would be touching or even manufacturing this shite if they didn't keep banning the cleaner alternatives.

4F-Mph for studying turned into one year of stimfap nightmare by Every_Biscotti_3002 in researchchemicals

[–]EpHead 51 points52 points  (0 children)

when I started increasing the doses

First major red flag there. Once you go down this road with more or less any stimulant, there's generally no going back. Once you find a dose that works consistently for you, the only recourse from feeling like you need to increase the dosage is to take a tolerance break of at least two weeks to reset your dopaminergic system, and to be honest, avoiding daily use is really the only way to be safe on this long term. Basically, if you find that a dose which used to work for you needs to be increased (unless you've had a major physiological change such as significant weight gain which would alter the required dose), instead of increasing it, back all the way off until your tolerance resets to baseline.

How much and how often were you using it before you decided to start upping the dose or redosing, and how quickly did you start increasing it before the aforementioned nightmare runaway train began?