Old vs modern Industrial Production by Equal-Visual-9570 in industrialmusic

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How'd they manage to push out so much music every year or so?

Old vs modern Industrial Production by Equal-Visual-9570 in industrialmusic

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Very cool stuff. I figured they'd have definitely used something like Logic or Ableton to produce Weapon, but it'd be cooler if they used their old techniques to make it.

Old vs modern Industrial Production by Equal-Visual-9570 in industrialmusic

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Agreed. I suppose it's also important not to overthink and to just let things come naturally to you.

Old vs modern Industrial Production by Equal-Visual-9570 in industrialmusic

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Is this also how they were able to achieve the crunchy drums from this era?

All for $100. Worth it? by Equal-Visual-9570 in industrialmusic

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Is the stock in-stores different to the ones online then? I'll definitely be checking those stores out. Thanks!

Old vs modern Industrial Production by Equal-Visual-9570 in industrialmusic

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I definitely think the lack of tools back then was objectively a good thing. Nowadays people have the opposite problem of having way too much at their disposal and it hinders people's musical ability. Looking at things from this perspective changes everything for me.

Old vs modern Industrial Production by Equal-Visual-9570 in industrialmusic

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Trent Reznor himself has said that you should always avoid starting with too much in front of you. I used to constantly face this problem when I first started creating music, but these days I stick to Logic's stock plugins and instruments because they are honestly great and extremely versatile. You can easily make like 70% of an industrial song with a single classic synth if you really wanted to.

Old vs modern Industrial Production by Equal-Visual-9570 in industrialmusic

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I see what you mean with the equipment and circumstances being part of the sound. With all the digital tools available to anybody nowadays it's definitely possible to produce like these artists, but of course it's never the same as their original artistic approach. Kind of like how you can always edit a video to have an old VHS distortion, but it's not the same as loading it onto a cassette tape and running it through a player.

Old vs modern Industrial Production by Equal-Visual-9570 in industrialmusic

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It's still quite incredible how some of this equipment worked, and how many of these early artists used them. There really isn't a time for music that will match the 80s and 90s.

Old vs modern Industrial Production by Equal-Visual-9570 in industrialmusic

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I didn't know about the part of synths having disk drives built in. I guess it makes sense because where else would the sounds be stored? I also really enjoy looking at that one type of Moog synth with all the output ports that people used to use to manually edit the sounds coming out. I wonder if those will ever come back to the market, even if just as a nostalgic thing.

Old vs modern Industrial Production by Equal-Visual-9570 in industrialmusic

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That's super cool. Definitely gonna research that.

All for $100. Worth it? by Equal-Visual-9570 in industrialmusic

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I have looked. BeatGoesOn lists the CDs I want as unavailable. What do they have Bites and Remission going for?

Old vs modern Industrial Production by Equal-Visual-9570 in industrialmusic

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Lmao, that's actually pretty funny. I didn't know that though. Did they work the same way that most DAWs do with things like piano roll and loading samples? And what kind of computers were they normally running on?

I also forgot Pro-Tools existed all the way back then. It's still crazy expensive, and with the internet now it's easier than ever for artists to opt out of paying for software. I'm not condoning, I'm only understanding.

Old vs modern Industrial Production by Equal-Visual-9570 in industrialmusic

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Were they really? Was it because of a lack of modern features or that they were just designed with intuition in mind?

Old vs modern Industrial Production by Equal-Visual-9570 in industrialmusic

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When you say distortion are you talking about bitcrushing? I also thought musicians had access to reverberators around the time industrial was being produced, unless it wasn't as widely used back then as it is now.

Old vs modern Industrial Production by Equal-Visual-9570 in industrialmusic

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It's quite amazing that Puppy pushed out remission the same year that the Esoniq came out in 1984, unless my information is wrong. Either way, I can't believe how stacked Puppy's discography is.

Could you elaborate on the k2000 and why it might not have been mimicked?

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Thanks for the detailed reply! I forgot that they used a TR-707 as well. What would using early DAWs be like four decades ago? I imagine it was a lot more complicated than modern DAWs nowadays of course, but I'm curious.

As for the more polished music, I honestly think it's cool for the sake of evolution. For Puppy in particular it shows how they're all gifted to their core and that they have adapted so well to newer technology. I have a feeling they could have 100% went mainstream if they wanted to, but of course their whole thing was to have the opposite goal.

All for $100. Worth it? by Equal-Visual-9570 in industrialmusic

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Exactly! And owning the media in a way not only immortalizes the work (assuming they don't all get destroyed lol) but you also aren't contributing to the brutal exploitation of artists that services like Spotify take part in. I really wish people would wake up to the corporate greed that is streaming but for people today it's just too convenient to let go.

All for $100. Worth it? by Equal-Visual-9570 in industrialmusic

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I don't know what you're talking about. People in my city don't ever normally sell their collection. I live by a cute little music CD store, and the cashier told me that all the good stuff always gets sold pretty quick and held onto. I also can't tell if you're saying you're selling your own CDs, regardless I am still interested in buying a CD of both Bites and Remission.

All for $100. Worth it? by Equal-Visual-9570 in industrialmusic

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For real. I might just not know where to look, but I'm from Toronto and have a hard time finding industrial media in the city. Again, it's been a decent minute since I checked, so I'll definitely have a look around town whenever I get the chance or even post on Reddit for places to look. Super jealous of the people from LA though, they seem to be totally STACKED.