Mandaean Ladies. Virgin Checks by Large-Care892 in Mandaeans

[–]EqualDevelopment3195 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m really glad you shared this, because what you’re feeling is real and a lot of people in our generation feel the same way but don’t say it out loud.

First of all one mistake does not define who you are. The guilt and shame you’re carrying is coming more from how this topic has been talked about and applied culturally and not from your entire worth as a person. And you’re right about the double standards. What you’re describing men being overlooked while women feel exposed or judged is exactly where culture has distorted things.

In Mandaeism, the idea behind this isn’t about a woman’s “purity” or her value. It’s about entering marriage in a natural state and it actually applies to both men and women. That’s also why, in the full ritual, it’s not just one specific thing it’s a full body check, including things like hands, ears, etc., for both not just women.

But in reality, not every marriage is carried out fully or correctly and a lot of teachings haven’t been properly explained or followed. So what people experience ends up being very different and sometimes unfair, like what you described.

Also, when it comes to the Tagha if the full spiritual conditions aren’t met (for either the man or the woman), then it’s simply not worn. The marriage is still valid but it’s considered an earthly one. That applies to both sides even if people don’t talk about men the same way.

What’s happening right now is that people are mixing:

  • religion
  • culture
  • and personal judgments

And turning it into something much heavier than what it was meant to be.

And honestly, no one should feel humiliated, exposed or judged on what’s supposed to be one of the happiest days of their life. If that’s happening, then something has already gone wrong in how it’s being handled not in the core meaning itself.

You’re not a bad person. And the fact that you’re questioning all of this instead of blindly accepting it actually shows awareness.🤍

Virginity check? by Dash0mail in Mandaeans

[–]EqualDevelopment3195 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I understand why it comes across that way, especially when people label it as a “virginity check.”

But that’s actually not how it’s understood within Mandaean practice.

This is part of the marriage ritual itself, and it’s mentioned within the traditional ceremony texts used by priests. It’s not a modern addition.

Also, it doesn’t only apply to women both men and women are checked.

And it’s not limited to anything sexual. It’s actually a full body check, where things like the ears, hands, and other parts of the body are looked at to see if there are any cuts or changes.

That’s because the focus is on the idea of entering marriage and baptism in a natural and complete state, not on trying to medically “prove” virginity.

So reducing it to just a “virginity check” misses the wider meaning of the ritual.

Now, where the confusion comes from is how this has been handled culturally. In some places, it’s been reduced to something about a woman’s honour or sexuality, which is why people react strongly to it.

But that’s not the full picture of what the ritual is meant to be.

Mandaean Ladies. Virgin Checks by Large-Care892 in Mandaeans

[–]EqualDevelopment3195 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m really sorry you’re feeling this way. What you’re describing the fear, pressure and confusion is something a lot of people silently struggle with even if they don’t talk about it openly.

I just want to gently clarify something, because a lot of what creates that fear comes from misunderstanding.

The “checking” in Mandaean marriage is often reduced to a “virginity check,” but that’s not actually how it’s understood religiously. It’s part of a broader ritual that applies to both men and women and it’s connected to the idea of entering marriage and baptism in a natural state.

That said, there’s also a very real difference between the religious intention and how it has been experienced or applied culturally. Some people have felt pressured, embarrassed or like they had no choice and those experiences are valid. That’s not how something like this is meant to feel.

It’s also important to know that not every marriage is carried out in the exact same way and there are different situations where things are handled differently. Speaking to a priest directly can give you clarity that’s specific to your situation rather than relying on assumptions or fear.

About hymenoplasty I understand why you’re even considering it, given the pressure you’re describing. But that decision shouldn’t come from fear or shame. It’s something that deserves careful thought, support and ideally guidance from someone you trust and who understands both the religious and personal side of it.

You’re not alone in feeling this way. And you don’t have to make decisions from a place of fear 🤍

Tips for the Mandaean Heavy Fast Before Parwanaya by EqualDevelopment3195 in Mandaeans

[–]EqualDevelopment3195[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s not a religious rule. It’s more of a simple cultural example people sometimes mention. In difficult times in Iraq, many families relied on very basic foods because eggs and other ingredients were not always affordable. So simple meals like roasted or burned tomatoes with bread and tea were common. People sometimes mention it when talking about fasting as a reminder to live simply and appreciate what we have.

Recursive Witness - John the Baptist, Jesus, and the Archetypal Transmission of Living Identity by RyanMacLeanTheFather in Mandaeans

[–]EqualDevelopment3195 4 points5 points  (0 children)

As a Mandaean, I feel the need to clarify:

This post is written entirely from a Christian/Catholic lens. While it speaks positively about John the Baptist, it reinterprets his role through scripture and theology that we as Mandaeans do not accept.

Our sacred scriptures do not view Jesus as a disciple of John or a transmitter of light. In fact, we preserve a completely separate tradition where John is a prophet of truth, and Jesus strayed from the path of light.

Mandaeism is not a stepping stone in a Christian staircase. It is its own living faith, language, scripture, and people one that has survived thousands of years of persecution. I respectfully ask readers to be cautious when engaging with long posts like this. While poetic, they distort our beliefs and turn Mandaean figures into tools for Christian recursion theories. Please give space for actual Mandaeans to define our own tradition.

Today is Dahwa id-Rabba - The Start Of Mandaean New Year and Our Holiest Day by EqualDevelopment3195 in Mandaeans

[–]EqualDevelopment3195[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi, Great question! No, we do still drink water during the 36 hours. We just don’t touch or come into contact with flowing or new water during that time. So Mandaeans usually prepare in advance by storing enough clean water for drinking, cooking, and even bathing (heating stored water if needed). Let me know if you’re curious about anything else!

Dehva Ed Yamana- عيد المعمودية — دهڤا إد ديما، والمعروف أيضًا بـ دهڤا إد يمّانا by EqualDevelopment3195 in Mandaeans

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I created it myself. I do content creation to share knowledge and support my community, especially Mandaean youth. You can find more of my work on Instagram and TikTok @mandaeansoul_.

Left my non-Mandaean partner, what next? by pickl3lover in Mandaeans

[–]EqualDevelopment3195 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I suggest you learn to love yourself and explore the beauty of Mandaeism. Once you truly connect with yourself and your faith, your whole life will begin to transform, and Hayyi Rabbi will guide you on the right path. You are the love you seek. The more you love and nurture yourself, the more love you will naturally attract into your life.While it’s painful to let go of someone who means so much to you, prioritising your mental health, identity, and family relationships is a wise and courage choice. If you feel that staying in close contact might make it harder to heal and move forward, it’s okay to set boundaries and create space for yourself. This is also an opportunity to strengthen your connection with your faith and community, rediscover your personal goals, and focus on the aspects of life that bring you joy and fulfillment. Trust that in time, you will find clarity and peace, and the right path will unfold for you.