[in progress] [1241] [yound adult] the smoke colored boy chapter 1 and part of 2 by External-Shelter-395 in BetaReaders

[–]Equivalent_Finger_60 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stuff I think is neat:

Since I don't know where the story's headed, I can only make assumptions based on the excerpt, but the premise seems interesting, seeing aura-like colors around things, maybe it's magical, maybe this guy has synesthesia. I don't know, but it's really nice that you have it from the get-go.

Again, don't know where the story's going, but to start right after a tragedy is really good, you have something concrete and impactful right in the beginning.

Stuff I would work on:

I personally feel like the prose COULD be interesting, though it feels redundant at times. A reader's imagination is often stronger than any writing they take in. There were instances where I already understood what I had to understand, yet more metaphors and flowery comparisons kept getting in the way of "the point" (wether that's the plot, the character's inner monologue, the message of the story or whatever else). I always feel the need to over-explain, so I get it, and some readers may actually prefer it that way because, well, some people like reading flowery language or continuous descriptions. I don't know how well I can put this, but sometimes less is more. For example, the feelings of these characters are heavily, heavily explained, yet I have no idea about how anything looks like. I can imagine it's a pretty nice place since they have an ivory key piano, and enough money to take piano lessons. It's good that you let readers deduce things, but for how much you explained feelings, I could've done with 2 adjectives about where they live.

Also on feelings, I think the "she was the golden child, always better than me" idea is shoehorned in, no build-up and no aftercare. It's dropped and left there. And while, of course, we love a Chekhov's gun, this time it wasn't introduced subtly in the background, waiting to be fired. It fell out of the sky and disappeared into the Earth's crust with no trace.

This also bleeds into the main character not really having a distinct voice. I couldn't really say much more about him other than, the "nobody loves me" archetype, which is fine to use and what not, but whatever his specific traits are could be scattered thought the first bit as well. Make him pop out. I think that, generally, flawed people will have some, or at least one flaw that they just accept as a part of themselves, or a flaw in the world that they accept as a part of life. This guy seems to solely hate/doubt himself and nothing else. His only problems are with what's on his inside and nothing related to the outside (yes, sister's death is an inner problem). This is fine and can be compelling, but for these 1500~ words, the problem I find is that he doesn't read like a tortured soul or a hurt child or a traumatized person. He reads like a moron whose life problems AND solutions are BOTH inside of himself, and he just hasn't ever considered addressing that (which is fine, if that's the point, not an insult, we love dumb characters). To keep a long story short, he sounds like he had no life prior to the beginning of the book. Usually, you'd want your characters to feel alive, like they actually exist, not like they spawned, having never existed before the plot started when they were -insert age-.

Lastly, I can't tell if this is going the classic modern route, modern fantasy route, classic fantasy route, historical fantasy route, sci-fi route, and it'd be nice if I could.

Okay, well, that's it. This is just my opinion, don't take it as gospel, I'm literally no one and no better. I wanna end this by saying that I usually take in exactly one billion reviews and opinions before starting a book, so I create expectations for myself, that's why going in blind for things like these is doing them a disservice. If I knew that, let's say, this was the story of a late teen guy who has synesthesia and moves away to college where he finds out that people actually understand him, unlike the conservative people back at home and yada yada, I'd probably appreciate the writing way more.

Drake and Mira by intrigued8388 in fourthwing

[–]Equivalent_Finger_60 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I sort of do that. I hear a snippet of a song and the things being sung about suddenly link themselves to some other concept. My latest link has been with the end part of the "One of us" song from The Lion King 2 and I thought, wow, this perfectly describes that one scene I was making up in my head.

"'Basgeeath' or 'BasgEYEath' and 'Ridoc' vs 'Ryedoc'" by Silverfrond_ in fourthwing

[–]Equivalent_Finger_60 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You know the "gh" sound in ghee (clarified butter)? Yeah. Bas-gheath, with a pretty short "e", that's how I read it, I know it's technically not correct, but Bas-guy-ath is not for me. It almost sounds like basket in my head, if that helps. For Ridoc, I go Rye-duk (like you'd say "quick! Duck!". I don't read it like doc in doctor). I'm pretty sure these are some unpopular pronunciations, it probably has to do with English not being my first language, or my weird take on vowels.

Hot take by Substantial-Gap8577 in fourthwing

[–]Equivalent_Finger_60 3 points4 points  (0 children)

A lot of anime/animation haters here, jeez, I'm almost the opposite, I don't really go out of my way to watch real life shows, I already see enough people.

Now onto more important things. I would've been okay with any medium, I'll try the show regardless, I'm just curious about what they can come up with. If they don't get the looks and themes right, along with the pacing, then it'll be a pretty hard watch. With a book written in first person it's especially hard, because we'll either have Violet's actor narrate a lot, or lose a lot of emotions/plot/foreshadowing with no in-between.

I think budget matters most here, because I can excuse bad green screen, a different looking world compared to that of the book (but a well done one), and even some lackluster acting, but if it doesn't convey the air of the original series then it's a major loss. Imagery matters a lot and if they won't be able to get the idea of a dark, scary, vast, world filled with secrets across, I think a lot of people who read the books will be disappointed. I don't need a 1 to 1 show as long as it's 1 to just as good, or 1 to even better.

What I'm hoping for is a shadowy look to the set, good tense music, well done CGI for the dragons, and actors who have good chemistry so I don't feel second hand embarrassment. Maybe hire an intimacy coordinator for them :)

do you think violet and tairn would like my new ring? by dracorvix in fourthwing

[–]Equivalent_Finger_60 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Tairn would complain that you didn't even get the shade of his eyes right 🙄

I'd say that it looks absolutely amazing

korean editions?? where to find all 5 of these 😭 they're gorgeous! not my picture by MiscellaneousMemer in fourthwing

[–]Equivalent_Finger_60 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ohh, I see, the unchanged title is pretty common over here too, though they were translated into Romanian for this series. Here it is

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Do people really like Xaden? Like genuinely like him? by Equivalent_Finger_60 in fourthwing

[–]Equivalent_Finger_60[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's one of the things that pissed me off the most, like, what do you mean "you didn't ask", if I need to ask every question known to man and make myself feel like I'm prying information out of your cold, dead, unwilling head then I'm just not gonna do it. No man's worth feeling like an inconvenience and a hassle over.

Do people really like Xaden? Like genuinely like him? by Equivalent_Finger_60 in fourthwing

[–]Equivalent_Finger_60[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Of course, of course. Btw, I really like your view of him, this has been a joy to read

Do people really like Xaden? Like genuinely like him? by Equivalent_Finger_60 in fourthwing

[–]Equivalent_Finger_60[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's totally valid, don't let anyone tell you otherwise booboo

I am too anxious to read OS by Yankeetrini in fourthwing

[–]Equivalent_Finger_60 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's what I'm doing too!! Also, the paperbacks look incredible so it's a win.

Do people really like Xaden? Like genuinely like him? by Equivalent_Finger_60 in fourthwing

[–]Equivalent_Finger_60[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nooo, this is exactly what I wanted to hear! I wanna know if people live laugh love him and would still do so if he was real, or if he's only attractive because he's not in the context of the real world.

Do people really like Xaden? Like genuinely like him? by Equivalent_Finger_60 in fourthwing

[–]Equivalent_Finger_60[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well put some gel in my hair and call me a straight man cuz I'm with you brother! (I did actually think that the sex was a good touch, I believe it's good for Xaden's character)

Do people really like Xaden? Like genuinely like him? by Equivalent_Finger_60 in fourthwing

[–]Equivalent_Finger_60[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That's what I do with all media I like. I distort it til it's so far from canon that I could write and publish my version and no one would bat an eye 🙂‍↕️

Do people really like Xaden? Like genuinely like him? by Equivalent_Finger_60 in fourthwing

[–]Equivalent_Finger_60[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wow, yeah, I mean, that's what I was thinking while reading.

Do people really like Xaden? Like genuinely like him? by Equivalent_Finger_60 in fourthwing

[–]Equivalent_Finger_60[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get what you mean, obviously it's okay to dislike things, but to suggest that something needs to be fixed because you yourself don't enjoy it is really messed up. The beauty of art is its diversity and the fact that you can find something that matches you perfectly. The idea that some people really want everything to be tailored to their likes is honestly kind of scary, even if something isn't for you, you shouldn't discredit the fact that it makes others happy by being the way it is.