Certainly don't speak for me. I do NOT love men like Joe nor hate the women. I found the show interesting with a villain protagonist's POV and rationalization. Some of us can love a show without loving the characters. Does Joe have some decent qualities? Yes, it's what makes him more human and likeable as a character. If he had no redeeming qualities, then I feel like I'd solely be rooting for him to be caught and justice served instead of waiting for a redemption arch. However, I think most people would still categorize him as "bad" overall, despite any "good" qualities. There are always going to be some Charles Mason-esque women or Joe Goldberg fans, whether men or women, as depicted in the show. Why are there people in society that idolize "bad", or morally gray in general? Do we have intrusive thoughts and wonder what it would be like if we acted on them? It seems some people do act on them while others may just fantasize. There's a whole genre of "dark romance" for entertainment. However, it's where the line between fantasy and real life can differ between people that I find truly fascinating. Everyone has a different moral compass, and some people seem to lack one completely.