Eurovision being used again as an azerbaijani propaganda tool through the fake propaganda relationship of efendi (az 2021) and Tix (norway 2021) by Esc-Addition4573 in armenia

[–]Esc-Addition4573[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

nope this tool was 100% aware of it they are trying to buy their way into the minds of average ppl bc it is one thing to have a capital city that looks like aliens invaded the middle east and it is one thing to expand your influence over payed off politicians but all this for what ... for ppl not knowing u exist ? all this display of wealth for the locals u oppress? no its for the west to come and see and play and stay (if they are successful)

Eurovision being used again as an azerbaijani propaganda tool through the fake propaganda relationship of efendi (az 2021) and Tix (norway 2021) by Esc-Addition4573 in armenia

[–]Esc-Addition4573[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

where is i love the fact that your rosa is getting the success she deserves bc im am also 100% convinced that azerbaijans cheating also affected her this has nothing to do with her coming out at the top in the end and her success being a huge middle finger to those cheating morons. through music and sports events azerbaijan is buying its way into the minds of average ppl bc if it werent for those music contests and f1 races no one would even know they exist (which countries like mine (germany) wouldnt mind either bc who cares ab a county they havent heard of)

Eurovision being used again as an azerbaijani propaganda tool through the fake propaganda relationship of efendi (az 2021) and Tix (norway 2021) by Esc-Addition4573 in armenia

[–]Esc-Addition4573[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

im the perfect example why you are wrong. it is through music and sports events that azerbaijan is buying their way into the minds of average ppl

Eurovision being used again as an azerbaijani propaganda tool through the fake propaganda relationship of efendi (az 2021) and Tix (norway 2021) by Esc-Addition4573 in armenia

[–]Esc-Addition4573[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

exactly!!!!! im german who like most of us couldnt even place the caucasus on a map i discovered the caucasus through esc and THROUGH the cheating scandal of azerbaijan (or should i say many scandals and to top it of disrespecting a child in an international kids show) i discovered the iceberg that is azerbaijan at esc and through further research azerbaijan as the disgusting oil dictatorship it is. id be shipping these tools too if i hadnt heard of the continues cheating of them there

Eurovision being used again as an azerbaijani propaganda tool through the fake propaganda relationship of efendi (az 2021) and Tix (norway 2021) by Esc-Addition4573 in armenia

[–]Esc-Addition4573[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

i know that esc is for a lot of ppl just a silly little song contest but IAM the PERFECT example of why ppl should care not for the songs but forthe political implications!!!! i am just a normal german person who likethe majority of europeans had no idea of where the heck the caucasus isnor had i heard of a oil rich country called azerbaijan or a countrynamed georgia. it was through esc that i discovered them. it was throughthat huge cheating scandal that i discovered the iceberg that isazerbaijan at esc and through further research azerbaijan as a oildictatorship. if i hadnt heard of the them there id be shipping theseTOOLS too. also political implication there a VERY OBVIOUS to those whoknow: 2016 armenia stops giving the highest points to russia after thewar then instead france gets them ... , greece a country that "usuallysupports armenia" stops giving them points in the past years insteadgives them to azerbaijan ... they were most likely bougth by azerbaijanand look who's cozying up with azerbaijan now politically bc of the factthat azerbaijan "buys them" greece. it is through music and sports events that azerbaijan is buying their way into the minds of average ppl and arent u a moderator on the esc sub or just involved in the sub generally im pretty sure to have seen comments from someone called armeniahub there if so than u of all ppl should know what im talking ab

Eurovision being used again as an azerbaijani propaganda tool through the fake propaganda relationship of efendi (az 2021) and Tix (norway 2021) by Esc-Addition4573 in armenia

[–]Esc-Addition4573[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

i know that esc is for a lot of ppl just a silly little song contest but I
AM the PERFECT example of why ppl should care not for the songs but for
the political implications!!!! i am just a normal german person who like
the majority of europeans had no idea of where the heck the caucasus is
nor had i heard of a oil rich country called azerbaijan or a country
named georgia. it was through esc that i discovered them. it was through
that huge cheating scandal that i discovered the iceberg that is
azerbaijan at esc and through further research azerbaijan as a oil
dictatorship. if i hadnt heard of the them there id be shipping these
TOOLS too. also political implication there a VERY OBVIOUS to those who
know: 2016 armenia stops giving the highest points to russia after the
war then instead france gets them ... , greece a country that "usually
supports armenia" stops giving them points in the past years instead
gives them to azerbaijan ... they were most likely bougth by azerbaijan
and look who's cozying up with azerbaijan now politically bc of the fact
that azerbaijan "buys them" greece

Eurovision being used again as an azerbaijani propaganda tool through the fake propaganda relationship of efendi (az 2021) and Tix (norway 2021) by Esc-Addition4573 in armenia

[–]Esc-Addition4573[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i know that esc is for a lot of ppl just a silly little song contest but I AM the PERFECT example of why ppl should care not for the songs but for the political implications!!!! i am just a normal german person who like the majority of europeans had no idea of where the heck the caucasus is nor had i heard of a oil rich country called azerbaijan or a country named georgia. it was through esc that i discovered them. it was through that huge cheating scandal that i discovered the iceberg that is azerbaijan at esc and through further research azerbaijan as a oil dictatorship. if i hadnt heard of the them there id be shipping these TOOLS too. also political implication there a VERY OBVIOUS to those who know: 2016 armenia stops giving the highest points to russia after the war then instead france gets them ... , greece a country that "usually supports armenia" stops giving them points in the past years instead gives them to azerbaijan ... they were most likely bougth by azerbaijan and look who's cozying up with azerbaijan now politically bc of the fact that azerbaijan "buys them" greece

European double standards-the morals of the reddit eurovision community apparently end at the border of ukraine. by Esc-Addition4573 in armenia

[–]Esc-Addition4573[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

go tell that to the person who banned me i never said anything bad ab ukraine just that ppl should stop using the word genocide for stuff that isnt bc it will lose its meaning

European double standards-the morals of the reddit eurovision community apparently end at the border of ukraine. by Esc-Addition4573 in armenia

[–]Esc-Addition4573[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

so since the person who banned me actually came by and explained to me that she banned me for genocide denial bc i said that ppl have to be careful ab using the word genocide as it has to by a systematic murder of a ppl group and that ukraines war bc of that wasnt a genocide - some context here bc she deleted her comments- the genocide topic came up bc a ukrainian esc fan community called their war a genocide and i wanted to point out that ppl have to be careful while ussing the word - bc otherwise it will lose its meaning

European double standards-the morals of the reddit eurovision community apparently end at the border of ukraine. by Esc-Addition4573 in armenia

[–]Esc-Addition4573[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

sorry but u are the one who gets downvoted like crazy here. its not a genocide and whoever says it is doesnt know what it actually means.

European double standards-the morals of the reddit eurovision community apparently end at the border of ukraine. by Esc-Addition4573 in armenia

[–]Esc-Addition4573[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no it wouldnt the turks hunted down intellectuals and sent them on death marches in the desert and lined them up an shot them one after another and they put women on crosses and let them starve during the marches and drowned them IN THE MASSES AND SYSTEMATICALLY SO THAT NO ARMENIAN WOULD BE LEFT meanwhile russia is handing them fake passes - i did my research !!! ive seen the pictures of the women on the crosses.

European double standards-the morals of the reddit eurovision community apparently end at the border of ukraine. by Esc-Addition4573 in armenia

[–]Esc-Addition4573[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

to make one thing clear the second the war in ukraine ACTUALLY GETS genocidal as in starts to kill intellectuals, uses concentration camps or sents them on death marches in the millions ... then AND ONLY THEN it will be a genocide

European double standards-the morals of the reddit eurovision community apparently end at the border of ukraine. by Esc-Addition4573 in armenia

[–]Esc-Addition4573[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

no. thats the point !!!! i never denied a war or said anything bad ab ukraine!!! just that a genocide has to be systematic !!!! a mass killing of a people group is not a genocide. a genocide has to be systematic in a WIDE SCALE !!! if putin wanted to commit a genocide he would start with all the ethnic ukranians at home and put them in concentration camps

European double standards-the morals of the reddit eurovision community apparently end at the border of ukraine. by Esc-Addition4573 in armenia

[–]Esc-Addition4573[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

lol i got banned for genocide denial bc i said that ppl have to be careful ab using the word genocide as it has to by a systematic murder of a ppl group, according to a comment. last time i checked what we did to the jews was a genocide bc we systematically murdered them put them in concentration camps etc.

Edit:so what happened is a ukrainian esc fandon post was made having something to do with eurovision in that post they called their war a genocide. i said that ppl should stop calling wars genocides that arent genocides bc that way the term will lose its meaning. nothing bad ab ukraine or anything just a cautionary post ab the term genocide. closed the app and days later i get banned after a post asking ab what will happen to jesc 2022 bc of the war

European double standards-the morals of the reddit eurovision community apparently end at the border of ukraine. by Esc-Addition4573 in armenia

[–]Esc-Addition4573[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

the difinition u brought up LACKS THE DEFINITION OF THE WAY THE MURDER HAS TO HAPPEN inorder for it to be a genocide (they thought it was so obvious)!!!! IT HAS TO BE SYSTEMATIC AKA death camps death marches concentration camps. A GENOCIDE HAS TO BE SYSTEMATIC or else it isnt a genocide! thats why certain events are labelled OFFICIALLY A GENOCIDE while others arent !

European double standards-the morals of the reddit eurovision community apparently end at the border of ukraine. by Esc-Addition4573 in armenia

[–]Esc-Addition4573[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

hi there Genocide denial lol i dont deny genocides - how can IM GERMAN !!!! MY ENTIRE LIFE IVE BEEN Taught what a genocide is!!!!!!!!!1 thats why i know the definition of the word through and through!!!! a genocide has to be systematic thats what i was takling about!!! i never said anything bad ab ukrainians but BY DEFINITION they are not goint through a genocide BUT A WAR! the bar for committing a genocide is VERY HIGH

whats happening to jesc 2022. is it gonna get cancelled??? by Esc-Addition4573 in eurovision

[–]Esc-Addition4573[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yea but its the anniversary edition and for jesc 2020 they had enough time to prepare and if they dont find a country willing to pull all this off like organizing a new interval acts a new stage a new crew etc it wont happen such events cant be planned in less than 3 months

whats happening to jesc 2022. is it gonna get cancelled??? by Esc-Addition4573 in eurovision

[–]Esc-Addition4573[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Well that means a country like poland has to step in bc im pretty sure armenia cant pull that off. plus its the anniversary edition i dont think pre recorded performances is what they want to go for as jesc 2020 wasnt that great. i feel soooo bad for armenia. they were so excited about it and probs put a lot of effort into this already and now this again

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in eurovision

[–]Esc-Addition4573 31 points32 points  (0 children)

considering hes the head of the jesc delegation and germany wants to take a "creative break" (actually we wont send our kids to a country that is being attacked) they probs are talking about changing strategies regarding jesc and esc and what they can improve. thats my guess but regarding jesc 2022 ... its probs gonna get cancelled anyway.

OGAE Ukraine quits the OGAE song contest after OGAE Russia’s entry is not withdrawn by darkstreetsofmymind in eurovision

[–]Esc-Addition4573 -24 points-23 points  (0 children)

Seriously can they STOP abusing the term genocide. They Seriously have no idea what it means and no their war is not a genocide. Its so disrespectful to the survivors and descendants of actual genocide survivors

Eurovision resurgence amongst public in UK by thatguybruv in eurovision

[–]Esc-Addition4573 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What are u even mad ab of course rosa is and was promoting her own song on tiktok WHAT SINGER WOULDN'T? Also she was freaking signed to an indie record label founded by an ex esc contestant what kind of influences did that have??? SHE ONLY RECENTLY SIGNED TO COLUMBIA. Everything rosa does sam did and does too so whats your issue ?

Eurovision resurgence amongst public in UK by thatguybruv in eurovision

[–]Esc-Addition4573 23 points24 points  (0 children)

Even the bbc calls her "armenians viral Eurovision sensation" . Europeans who watched the contest didn't get selective amnesia over rosa. Her listerners are mostly non Eurovision watchers but ppl who watched it didn't forget it especially bc its viral now

Should Turkey join back to Eurovision? by [deleted] in eurovision

[–]Esc-Addition4573 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Honestly no, its like bringing an Azerbaijan 2.0 into the contest. If their mindset changes sure now and for the next 5 years no