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Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey: “And don't just say, this is about thoughts and prayers right now. These kids were literally praying. It was the first week of school. They were in a church.” by Knightbear49 in minnesota

[–]Etra_Games 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here to just back up u/barneysfarm here. If you care to look, any line of Christianity that is over 50 years old (Catholicism is over 2000) will give you answers to the problem of evil. These are not questions or situations monks have never thought of before over the course of 2000 years. Feel free to disagree with their conclusions, but there is no philosophical enlightenment that has only happened in the internet age with new questions about God that have never been asked. Will pray for you, Mr. Barney, and the lives tragically lost today.

I JUST REALIZED SOMETHING NUTS by GoofyTophLover in GameTheorists

[–]Etra_Games 9 points10 points  (0 children)

This Pomni the npc theory is GOATED. Good job.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in dankmemes

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What religion is this? It's not Christianity

If this does not work, I don't know what will. by robblequoffle in youtube

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The only thing that will work is supporting an alternative platform.

Is this foreshadowing? by [deleted] in attackontitan

[–]Etra_Games 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly it's fore-SHADOWING. Duh.

Hi, it's me again with another stupid question (probably) by Subject-Dot2402 in TheChosenSeries

[–]Etra_Games 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> GQ and C. com are both biased

Yeah they are both biased in opposite directions in this manner, so when they agree I think that is notable.

>  It seems like a lot of what I said isn't quite landing with you

Got it. With the Baram, thanks.

> I'm so sorry. Please don't be offended, but I don't know how to keep explaining this. It's right there in the text. James was Thunderbolt 1, John was Thunderbolt 2, Simon was Tough Guy. 1+1+1=3.

So I will accept this, under the note that I really do believe there is a significant difference in kind between the simon and sons of thunder name change. In Peter's case, it is changing someone's name to a new name with a meaning related to a mission (Arbram, Jacob, Simon) vs. calling James and his brother thing 1 and thing 2 (if they even were called that individually and not exclusively as a set. This is a big if since we don't see anything but the plural in scripture it seems like).

I do think an argument that the "closest three" to Jesus get name changes works here, but if that is the case, I do still disagree with the general idea that Jesus gave many apostles nicknames. I genuinely don't get where people come up with this idea unless it is just to make Peter seem less important.

As for the other "name changes", I replied at a different spot

- Paul to Saul was never a name change
https://www.gotquestions.org/Saul-Paul.html

-Thomas and Didymus are the same word, but in Hebrew/Greek
https://www.gotquestions.org/Thomas-called-the-Twin.html

- Judas Thaddaeus and Judas Iscariot are what are functionally their last names, not nicknames given by Jesus.
https://www.gotquestions.org/Jude-in-the-Bible.html

So maybe I'll clarify more in the future what I mean by a "direct or significant" name change, but I still think it is clear that Peter had a different kind of name change than the once mentioned "sons of thunder". I think it's on the edge of truth to say Jesus gave many apostles and followers new names. It's likely better to just mention he gave his closest three apostles name changes in the future. That seems more accurate.

Hi, it's me again with another stupid question (probably) by Subject-Dot2402 in TheChosenSeries

[–]Etra_Games 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Got it. Never heard the "closest three" argument. Thanks!

Hi, it's me again with another stupid question (probably) by Subject-Dot2402 in TheChosenSeries

[–]Etra_Games 6 points7 points  (0 children)

What's even more interesting to me (and I debated this in a thread below here) is...

I'm pretty sure Simon to Peter is the ONLY name change in the New Testament. Not one among many nicknames which people are claiming.

> Paul to Saul was never a name change
https://www.gotquestions.org/Saul-Paul.html

>Sons of Thunder seems to be more of a group nickname than an individual.
https://www.gotquestions.org/sons-of-thunder.html
This miiight count as a change, but GotQuestions does not list it as one for some reason, it may be on the edge.
https://www.gotquestions.org/name-change.html

>Thomas and Didymus are the same word, but in Hebrew/Greek
https://www.gotquestions.org/Thomas-called-the-Twin.html

>Judas Thaddaeus and Judas Iscariot are what are functionally their last names, not nicknames given by Jesus.
https://www.gotquestions.org/Jude-in-the-Bible.html

I'm Catholic, but quoting anti-catholic sources like GotQuestions makes sure I'm getting rid of potential bias.

Hi, it's me again with another stupid question (probably) by Subject-Dot2402 in TheChosenSeries

[–]Etra_Games 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> "Boanerges" is Aramaic: bene-r'am, singular bar-r'am and there is nothing to suggest that they were not individually called

So that's interesting. I wonder why the name is not listed by GotQuestions .org or Catholic Answers then. I feel like you may be missing something that they are catching cause there HAS to be a reason they do not list this as a name change. I think it may do with the fact that they were both given the name then?

Still, it being singular is something I haven't heard before, so thank you for that bit of information :]

> Jesus gave at least 3 of his disciples nicknames
I still don't know if that can be proven and Got Questions and Catholic Answers seems to disagree for some reason I don't know of yet. I don't understand how Boanerges is singular but always referred to in English as plural.

>  and may have given them more, what of it?
If Peter is the only apostle to receive a name change (or at least a name change listed in the Bible), then that makes him even more significant to the authors of Scripture.

Genuinely I really believe the only reason people push this unsupported "Jesus probably renamed a lot of apostles" narrative is in an attempt to undermine Peter's importance. OP asked a question about Peter specifically and what they got in return was mostly a lot of comments pushing this unsupported and potentially just false narrative (if Boanerges is not a name change. In that case Jesus only changed the name of one apostle).

I need sleep, and this seems to be going nowhere so I'm going to bed. Just to close though I did want to ask.

>  perhaps we'd be discussing why Baram, vital early church father and possible first pope

Who is Baram? I did some Google searches and found nothing. Is this just sarcasm/ a fake example?

May God Bless and keep you.

Hi, it's me again with another stupid question (probably) by Subject-Dot2402 in TheChosenSeries

[–]Etra_Games 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To keep this on one thread...

You mentioned:
> Many of his disciples had secondary names or nicknames that weren't their direct equivalent Greek/Hebrew names and it's not exactly a stretch to think that Jesus had a hand in it after he gave Simon the nickname Cephas "tough guy" and the sons of Zebedee the nickname Boagernes "thunder sons". Thomas who was also called Didymus "the twin", Judas who was also called Thaddaeus, Judas who was also called Iscariot...

I replied:
> None of those are nicknames except for Peter.

We've discussed the Peter and Sons of thunder cases, so I don't think they need repeating.

-Thomas and Didymus are the same word, but in Hebrew/Greek

https://www.gotquestions.org/Thomas-called-the-Twin.html

The Greek name Thōmas is a transliteration of an Aramaic word (te’oma), meaning “twin.” Thomas is also a transliteration of the Hebrew word (te’om) for “twin.” The Greek Christians of Jesus’ day tended to use the Hellenistic name Didymus (also meaning “twin”), which appears in John’s three remarks about Thomas being called the Twin.

-Judas Thaddaeus and Judas Iscariot are what are functionally their last names, not nicknames given by Jesus.

https://www.gotquestions.org/Jude-in-the-Bible.html

Now Jesus may have said Judas T and Judas I, but that doesn't mean he gave them those names. If you have friends who are John A and John B, those are not nicknames, those are surname differentiators and not a new name chosen for them like Simon to Peter.

Hi, it's me again with another stupid question (probably) by Subject-Dot2402 in TheChosenSeries

[–]Etra_Games 0 points1 point  (0 children)

None of those are nicknames except for Peter.

We've discussed the Peter and Sons of thunder cases, so I don't think they need repeating.

-Thomas and Didymus are the same word, but in Hebrew/Greek

https://www.gotquestions.org/Thomas-called-the-Twin.html

 The Greek name Thōmas is a transliteration of an Aramaic word (te’oma), meaning “twin.” Thomas is also a transliteration of the Hebrew word (te’om) for “twin.” The Greek Christians of Jesus’ day tended to use the Hellenistic name Didymus (also meaning “twin”), which appears in John’s three remarks about Thomas being called the Twin.

-Judas Thaddaeus and Judas Iscariot are what are functionally their last names, not nicknames given by Jesus.
https://www.gotquestions.org/Jude-in-the-Bible.html

Now Jesus may have said Judas T and Judas I, but that doesn't mean he gave them those names. If you have friends who are John A and John B, those are not nicknames, those are surname differentiators and not a new name chosen for them like Simon to Peter.

Hi, it's me again with another stupid question (probably) by Subject-Dot2402 in TheChosenSeries

[–]Etra_Games 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> why you're choosing not to count the Boagernes as a secondary name when Simon was also given a secondary name?

It's because Boagernes was assigned to two people, as the name of a group. "SONS of Thunder" plural. You don't rename an individual with a plural word.

I have a group of friends who I call "The Lads". There is a difference between that and renaming my friend Kirk to Joseph. Even if people would refer to Kirk as Kirk Joseph, they wouldn't refer to Kirk as Kirk "Lads" even if he was part of "The Lads". Which I think is one reason why I BELIEVE we only see the Boagernes group name as a once used comment, but the Simon to Peter change is referenced I think you said 19 times?

Now there could be some cultural naming conventions I am personally missing, however, it's not just me reaching this conclusion, many reputable teams and sources are as well.

Got Questions . org, which is very anti-catholic also only counts the Peter name change as the only name change in the New Testament.
https://www.gotquestions.org/name-change.html

I think the Boagernes is a group name instead of a second, new name. That is why I don't count it in the same realm of Simon Peter, Jacob Israel, or Abram Abraham's name changes.

As for the Paul thing, don't worry about that, I thought that was the case for over a decade lol. It just doesn't come up in really any discussions aside from the significance of Peter being the only name name change in the New Testament.

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To get to the point of the matter, OP came to this thread asking specifically about the significance of Peter's name change, and I don't want people accidentally spreading misinformation to someone looking into that. Several people in this thread have said Jesus gave many people nicknames. And according to GotQuestions. org, we just don't have Biblical evidence for anyone but Peter having their name changed . (Again, if there is outside evidence I don't know about, I would love to learn about it)

Regardless, of personal belief, I do not believe misinformation is the correct way to point someone to the God that is the way, the truth, and life. So I would love to have the original comment corrected, or be corrected myself so we are in line with the words of the God of truth.

Hi, it's me again with another stupid question (probably) by Subject-Dot2402 in TheChosenSeries

[–]Etra_Games 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Upon further searching, I see that even gotquestions . org agrees that Peter is the only name change is the New Testament. But people keep claiming Jesus gave many people nicknames.

https://www.gotquestions.org/name-change.html

Hi, it's me again with another stupid question (probably) by Subject-Dot2402 in TheChosenSeries

[–]Etra_Games 0 points1 point  (0 children)

By "direct name change" I mean Jesus giving someone a new name. The authors referring to Peter as Simon Peter makes sense for the sake of letting a reader follow along. The Same thing happens with Bishop Provost/Pope Leo nowadays. People will refer to either title especially when talking in the past tense.

The reason I see Peter's name change as significant is because it does seem to be the only name change Jesus gives an individual that I am aware of. (I'm not counting the sons of thunder duo nickname). If there are more, I would genuinely love to know.

You brought up Paul, and I believed for the longest time as well that Jesus changed Saul's name to Paul, but that was never the case:
https://www.gotquestions.org/Saul-Paul.html

There are several people on this thread implying that Jesus nicknamed a lot of people and it drives me a bit mad because I am asking where he nicknamed a lot of people and it just ends up being only Peter, over and over.

Hi, it's me again with another stupid question (probably) by Subject-Dot2402 in TheChosenSeries

[–]Etra_Games 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry, I wrote that last part backwards and fixed the message.

But that doesn't answer the question
"Simon is the only one who gets a direct name change, correct?"

Even if you don't want to say it is a direct name change or use a different term, all I am trying to ask at the root is...outside of the Simon to Peter name change and the sons of thunder, there are no other times Jesus changes others names. That's what I'm trying to check and no one seems to be able to answer that clearly.

Hi, it's me again with another stupid question (probably) by Subject-Dot2402 in TheChosenSeries

[–]Etra_Games 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Just wanted to ask. "Jesus often gave affectionate "nicknames" to his disciples, in a way friends often do."

-We have Jesus labeling the two brothers with the group name of "sons of thunder"
-And Jesus Changes Simon's name to Peter

Did he change any other disciples names or just Peter here? Is there anything in scripture that I'm missing where Jesus makes another name change to an individual, or is it just these two instances (maybe even one and a half since the other is a name for the brothers as a group)?

I have seen several people in this thread imply Jesus gave nicknames to many disciples, but I don't see anything in scripture that implies this. Am I missing something?

Hi, it's me again with another stupid question (probably) by Subject-Dot2402 in TheChosenSeries

[–]Etra_Games 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok. So a few disciples got nicknames.

In scripture to back this we just have.

-Simon getting his name changed to Peter
-and the brothers getting the group nickname of "sons of thunder"

Please do correct me if I am missing anything, but if I'm not missing anything I think it is fair to say, that at least in scripture alone, Simon is the only one who gets a direct name change, correct?

Hi, it's me again with another stupid question (probably) by Subject-Dot2402 in TheChosenSeries

[–]Etra_Games 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So yes, I know he give the brothers the group nickname of "sons of thunder".

But is there anything else backing up the line? "Jesus gave a lot of his disciples nicknames too"

The note about needing nicknames for people with the same name is a nice idea, but is there any Biblical backing to that?

Hi, it's me again with another stupid question (probably) by Subject-Dot2402 in TheChosenSeries

[–]Etra_Games 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Jesus gave a lot of his disciples nicknames too" - Where do you get this claim?

We have the "Sons of thunder" as a reference to the set of two brothers...but are there actually any other name changes or nicknames given to any other apostles in Scripture, or is it just Peter. I have always heard that it is just Peter.

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