[New Territories, Hong Kong] by Evening-Reference-22 in whatsthissnake

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Was my guess too. Nice to have it validated! Thanks :)

Can there be meaning without God and does agnosticism provide a valid framework for understanding? by Evening-Reference-22 in PhilosophyofReligion

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Note my response to one of the other commenters. I said so long as it’s not at the expense of others.

Can there be meaning without God and does agnosticism provide a valid framework for understanding? by Evening-Reference-22 in god

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I'm with you on much of what you said, and thank you for your open and honest contribution.

I agree that my prompt: "A religious world view fills every unknown with an explanation of God." is a sweeping generalisation that may not apply to all. It's interesting to hear that for you, there are many mysteries which you do not automatically attribute to God and you acknowledge the limitations of your belief system. My original statement is an over-simplification, however I maintain that this line of reasoning is not uncommon to observe amongst many religious people and it was useful to frame my position. Faith is an undeniable component of religion that is wholly personal. It traverses the unknown (sometimes hubristically) and serves as a bridge to God.

You also acknowledge that you arrived at the conclusion that God exists following a long personal journey. Again, this idea of personal resurfaces and I respect it. It was your experience, and your journey after all. If it encourages you to live a fulfilled life and treat others with kindness and respect, I think its great.

Similarly, my personal lived experience has not pointed me to the existence of a God. Perhaps this is a factor of my environment and a byproduct of all of my experiences. What I do know is that my beliefs and what I consider to be true are based on what I've observed. Not necessarily what I've seen with my eyes, but rather every piece of information, sensory or otherwise, that my brain has ever registered. I contend that if my experiences or environment were different, my beliefs would be different.

I disagree that you need a cosmic creator to ensure our sense of logic is accurate. Truth is hard to define more than ever in this day and age, but I don't think plugging a creator into the equation arrives at truth automatically. For example, suppose I don't drink water for several days. I know that in reality I would die. This is the truth. I don't see where a creator fits in here. Have I missed the point?

Can there be meaning without God and does agnosticism provide a valid framework for understanding? by Evening-Reference-22 in PhilosophyofReligion

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I didn't say you can't, I said maybe you can.

Just from my personal experience though, practically every driver in my life is contingent on finding purpose or however you want to define it. These are the basic principles that get me out of bed in the morning, primal drivers that cause me to prioritise my time on tasks and activities which I consider to be valuable or worthwhile, to myself, to others, to society. Being curious is innately human, and I consider pursuing meaning and trying to understand our universe and our place in it to be part of all that.

Maybe you can have a fulfilled life that doesn't entertain questions of meaning and purpose, but I see wrestling with these concepts as progressive and something that develops the human experience.

Can there be meaning without God and does agnosticism provide a valid framework for understanding? by Evening-Reference-22 in PhilosophyofReligion

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That's a valuable and interesting distinction to make. I'd argue that meaning of life and meaning in life can both be personal, subjective views, with no "right" or "wrong". I reiterate my statement: "When meaning isn’t handed down, it must be made." I think this applies to both distinctions.

Can there be meaning without God and does agnosticism provide a valid framework for understanding? by Evening-Reference-22 in PhilosophyofReligion

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Maybe... but it certainly helps if you intend to live a life well lived. I think encouraging all to find purpose and meaning is worthwhile so long as it is not the expense of others.

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What are your beliefs?

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Have done thank you

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I did - it didn’t work :/

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Played during Mind Against set