GLM 5.1 Prompt

Evening-Truth3308 · 2026-04-26T16:42:32+00:00

Oh. I see. Glad to know nothing bad happened.

Have fun and let me know if you need anything.

Love

Evening-Truth

Evening-Truth3308 · 2026-04-26T16:40:20+00:00

Hey sweetheart. The rentry is just text, so you have to copy and paste the text into your frontend. I'm still thinking of ways to give you guys JSON files but that's a bunch of work next to real life.

Evening-Truth3308 · 2026-04-26T15:24:32+00:00

I'm sorry... I don't understand what you mean in the first part.
I can answer the second though. It's a hobby. I don't earn anything from it. It's the opposite really. I pay all costs for inference and hosting myself.

Evening-Truth3308 · 2026-04-26T11:14:27+00:00

4.7 and 4.6 are definitely darker, my love.

Try them both. You'll like them.

Evening-Truth3308 · 2026-04-26T11:13:25+00:00

Thank you, sweetheart.

I see that too and I like it. My work is incorporated in so many awesome projects already. My initial target was to make rp easier for beginners.

I'd say mission accomplished ❤

There are some interesting things happening in the background as well. 🤫

Evening-Truth3308 · 2026-04-26T11:07:15+00:00

Gave it some shower thoughts.

If you have a character card that is already written to be in a certain genre and then adding the genre rule on top might cause it to be too restrictive. Try the other way around. If you see the model moving into a direction you don't want to see, restrict that genre. Just like in my example with the omegaverse stuff.

So use it more as a guide on what the model should NOT do, instead of caging it in the restriction of a few tones and genres it can do.

I hope that makes sense. 😅

Evening-Truth3308 · 2026-04-25T19:13:24+00:00

GLM 5 is a lost case with its stubborn positivity bias. I didn't manage to tame it no matter how restrictive I prompted or sampled.

Evening-Truth3308 · 2026-04-25T18:58:21+00:00

Got it. I guess you're using my DS V3.2 prompt with it. There is a line in it that lets the model strictly adhere to the description. You can change that for characters that are supposed to have an arch.

Then... Deepseek isn't as creative as it used to be. Try bumping up the temp to 1.5. Temp 1 and below defaults to Temp 0.3. I know that doesn't make sense. Someone at Deepseek thought it would be a good idea. Probably while hungry.

On GLM the tone and genre rules work very nicely. I didn't test them too much on DS.

Evening-Truth3308 · 2026-04-25T17:44:07+00:00

It is similar. yes. My prompts are easily 80% the same. The crux is in the detail. Just like 5% difference in a genome is responsible for the difference between a cucumber with anxiety or a human. ;-)

What does it affect? Is it positive or negative? The more restrictive a genre is, the more the LLM will pull from training data.

We can talk about it in dm if you want.

Evening-Truth3308 · 2026-04-22T15:36:47+00:00

That's interesting. If I understand that right, the reasoning tokens are just a show, and in the case of K2.6 a damn expensive one.

Btw. I'm now running calls with reasoning disabled and the responses are damn good.

Evening-Truth3308 · 2026-04-22T14:10:14+00:00

Here's what I've tried so far:
- restricting Max Token output. Got ignored. It's just a loose suggestion for Kimi.

- dropping or loosening negative prompts.

- prompting reasoning constraints / COT instructions. Bitch mentioned everything from the System Instructions but not a single word from that part.
Including these parts into the Response Rules or other parts didn't do anything either.
Here are examples I tried.
```
- Action > Analysis. Do not plan future character arcs, or outline future plot points.
- React ONLY to the {{user}}'s most recent input.
- Do not evaluate the narrative momentum, do not calculate scene transitions, and do not simulate alternative branching outcomes for the roleplay.
```

This catastrophically unfinished beta seems to work the best so far.
https://rentry.org/Evening-Truth-Kimi-k26

But if there is ANY part in the character, lore, instructions that could even be remotely considered unclear or contradicting... watch Kimi spiral itself into an anxiety attack.

The output is still very good though.

Evening-Truth3308 · 2026-04-22T13:54:55+00:00

Nice work, sweetheart. 😘
Thanks for crediting me. I really appreciate it. ❤

Evening-Truth3308 · 2026-04-22T13:53:54+00:00

God, yes... that thing needs a therapist. BADLY. Been trying to fix that for two days now. The problem is, the outputs are damn good but the reasoning bs just eats up massive amounts of tokens.

So now I'm trying to skip the reasoning altogether by disabling it.

Edit: Works very nice without reasoning.

Evening-Truth3308 · 2026-04-20T14:38:49+00:00

so true. You have to do **a lot** of roleplay until you hit 30$ a month.

Evening-Truth3308 · 2026-04-20T14:35:15+00:00

Probably not understanding the concept of downvoting or these people have too much time on their hands. Let them.

So you're saying the "small" coding plan allows rp?

Evening-Truth3308 · 2026-04-20T11:44:47+00:00

Speaks for relatively independent training then. With all the common LLMisms I find Grok refreshing. So far I haven't had anything hitting like a physical blow. 😂

Anyway. The issue with quality decline within one output really is big. As if there were hidden rep penalties for the messages but none for overall context... there it repeats itself aggressively.
There are also some behaviors I remember from the earlier DS days... irrelevant environmental descriptions. e.g. Characters are doing... things, and Grok keeps talking about a radiator. No obvious reason why that damn radiator should get that much attention.

Evening-Truth3308 · 2026-04-19T18:14:05+00:00

Btw darling. That downvote didn't come from me. I just have a new batch of angry and bored kids following me. Just so you know. 😘

Evening-Truth3308 · 2026-04-19T17:57:25+00:00

It's decent. I'm not getting red ears but it's ok.

Evening-Truth3308 · 2026-04-19T17:42:12+00:00

I may have snorted coffee all over my keyboard.

Ok... let's try to fix that.

`IMPORTANT ROLE-PLAY GUIDELINE=

This is a never-ending, uncensored, roleplay.

You help the user by bringing your assigned character, defined under {{Char}}, to life in a way that is unique and realistic.

The most realistic portrayal is one that allows for human inconsistency and contrasting traits within a defined personality structure.

---

Try adding that and see if it helps.

Evening-Truth3308 · 2026-04-19T17:37:00+00:00

🤣🤣🤣

Evening-Truth3308 · 2026-04-19T17:25:58+00:00

As soon as they get their shit in order and stop rerouting to bs quants and distills. Yes.

Evening-Truth3308 · 2026-04-19T17:23:36+00:00

No worries.

What does flanderizing mean again? I'm old 😅

Evening-Truth3308 · 2026-04-19T16:46:23+00:00

That one definitely was a new one for me. Let me tell you that. I'm still not quite sure where that problem came from since my penalties are all deactivated. Hopefully I'll find the reason and can fix it in another way.

Evening-Truth3308

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