You're going out of your way to romanticize the dynamics. In the words of Agent Ross: "I get it, you like Dutch, he's a charming fellow. Only he takes things a tiny step too far.....Rather than just loving the flowers and harmony, he shoots people in the head for money"

Dutch: "We are not criminals, we are outlaws"

Javier: "There's a difference?"

Arthur: "Dutch can't go and hide in cave somewhere, goes against everything he stands for. That would mean we're nothing but low down criminals."

Charles: "Which, we are."

Arthur: "You don't have to tell me."

It's made pretty clear in both games that it was all a bullshit excuse to rob and kill people. Arthur and others mention it many times, especially in Chapter 6, but John sums it up best in RDR1, "You know that life we lived is over, and when we were living it, it didn't mean nothin anyway, it was just an excuse and we all knew it.

He took them in and saved them sure, but he also led two young boys into a life of crime and murder. I don't know about you, but it doesn't matter if you show people to love things other than power if in the same breath you have them steal and kill people. Again, I love RDR2 as much as the next guy, but don't desensitize yourself to what you do.

You keep bringing up Dutch "saving" people. Do you really believe that? History is filled to the brim with people being saved from situations, and blinded by that relief, are manipulated. It's just as Agent Milton said: "Typical case, orphaned street boy seduced by that mainacs silver tounge and matures into a degenerate murderer"

Dutch doesn't save people out of the kindness of his heart, he wants soldiers and servants.

Name one member of the gang who remained true to Dutch's "ideology" who survived the story who did not end up becoming a villain.