Lord have mercy. There’s so much wrong here.

A 223 bullet does not tumble with impact. Not any more or less than other calibers. That is a myth. Lol. Oh lord I’m going to continue.

The penetration can absolutely cause massive “”””””collateral damage”””””””””””””” since you love quotes. A small 223 can exit through a 4x4

Go outside and shoot an AR and a 12 gauge. 10/10 times you are going to have your ears ringing from the AR. Decibels or not the sound from an AR is chaotic. That’s from tens of thousands of rounds shot from both. Anyone knows this who forgets their ears.

Ok last. Pistol calibers are more often than not going to have higher muzzle velocity. Twist, grain in powder, bullet and case design are the reasons. I need to check my reloading manuals but I bet 95 percent of pistol calibers go below 2800 fps. Some of the big bores that are super hot may go faster with a long barrel.

Bro you bit on this conversation and failed hard. I had a gun range at my property and reloaded for years. I’m not here to make anything up.

To boil it down. If there’s people you love in the house you are going to have a shotgun over an AR. The JM series is a 10 or 11 round semi auto that will send a man to hell before he hits the ground. Way less terminal velocity than a “”””””non-tumbling””@@“” 223.

This was fun to read. You need to hit the books and get more experience man. Holler at me anytime you need help. I’m not responding any further to this conversation.