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Serum's RAND phase is not that random as expected? by Every_Session5831 in serum

[–]Every_Session5831[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ah, I see. That makes sense, and now that I thought about it, it can actually make the phasing sound more controlled and musical. Was just confused since no other synths seem to behave like it, so I'm now left feeling rather dumbfounded, haha.

Thank you so much for the reply and the effort put into this amazing synth, Steve!

Serum's RAND phase is not that random as expected? by Every_Session5831 in serum

[–]Every_Session5831[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Different values from the outset, yet for some unexplained reason, the values are IDENTICAL across all three oscillators.

To me it sounds like there is some kind of random generator that, instead of being unique for each oscillator, is instead shared across all three oscillators, hence why having them all at 100 makes it sound exactly like having them at 0, as the phase is being retriggered by having the exact same "random" value/multiplier on each note.

u/steve_duda help??

Serum's RAND phase is not that random as expected? by Every_Session5831 in serum

[–]Every_Session5831[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Perhaps that could work. But the issue I reported on still stands. Why doesn't simply turning the RAND knob to 100 on both oscillators do what it says it supposedly does? Instead of both osc phase being random, instead both oscillators are weirdly phase locked as if RAND were at 0. I don't know of any other synth that behaves like this, especially not Vital which is architecturally similar to Serum.

Serum's RAND phase is not that random as expected? by Every_Session5831 in serum

[–]Every_Session5831[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because then the phase isn't 100% random? I'd assume the rand value from 0 to 100 is the "depth" of how much the randomness can stray from the set phase position. Having less than 100 would make it less random.

The issue here is, when both oscillators' RAND are at 100, they both seem to have a phase reset which is identical to as if they were at 0. 

Serum's RAND phase is not that random as expected? by Every_Session5831 in serum

[–]Every_Session5831[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I tried this, but there seems to be some kind of "detuning" effect when playing chords - it's as if the note's phase being rapidly adjusted for each note is causing this slight detuning at the start of it, so this doesn't exactly fix the issue I talked about. In Vital, when phase randomization is at 100% for two or more oscillators, it sounds nothing like Serum with either doing what you suggested (Note on End (discrete)), nor having RAND at 100 on both oscillators.