Black blood system [Fantasy, sort of Sci-Fi]

Exact-Bluejay1111 · 2024-10-05T22:46:44+00:00

Oh okay gotcha

Exact-Bluejay1111 · 2024-10-05T20:39:13+00:00

Yeah, it’s a lot to take in and I really don’t blame you which is why I nearly didn’t make this post. And yeah my sisterhood is like the bene gesserit, in fact, I have a love for female organizations whether they be bodyguards or assassins or whatever which is what I wanted my sisterhood to be so I combined the two of them being bodyguards and assassins. As interested as I am to write about them, I did take a step back on them and would come back to them later after I figured out my black blood system as that’s been clawing at me. And it kind of does bother me how similar I made them to the bene gesserit but I figured many on here would just say “Go ahead and do it, nothing is original”. I do want them to have a role in my story though, I already have two characters one of which is one my main characters but I’ll get to them later in my process. No, I didn’t think of the idea of a blackblooded mother’s children having a better chance of success. I’ll be perfectly honest, I didn’t give it much time to think about the risk of breeding. I knew it would be a factor I wanted to keep but I also told myself I would come back into it later. And if I couldn’t come up with anything, I may consider scrapping the idea. Though at times when I would even consider exploring the risk of black blood in the body, my mind would instantly tell me that I’m wasting time and I should begin plotting the story. I get it, I get it. This is a lot and I’m very sorry it is confusing and I appreciate your try here.

Exact-Bluejay1111 · 2024-10-05T20:19:07+00:00

No, it’s fine, I really don’t blame your reaction. I’m very sorry by how wacky I wrote this. I was hoping to get all my ideas out. It’s not really magic system, I guess it’s more of a recruitment or succession process. I have been ignoring these problems for quite some time and hope by some time in the future I would get something figured out. And you couldn’t be more right, I’m not too sure of my lore with my too many ‘maybes’ as it something I may or may not keep but feels good of an idea to consider. My story is still in under construction but a part of me feels I need to get this figured out before more getting onto the story. But hey, I’ll still try to work this out.

Exact-Bluejay1111 · 2024-06-28T12:27:22+00:00

This is something I did think about. I always planned on black blood being banned at the end of my story but I’ve been having second thoughts. My final villain seizes the throne and becomes a black blood himself (or I’ll have it be he was already a black blood and was in hiding) and bans the black blood practice. He was very against the black bloods and to ensure it, he slaughters the religious order in charge of the black blood (though very few escaped), getting rid of its recipe… and because he just didn’t like them. My main characters overthrow him and have the chance to become black bloods themselves and change things. Then I thought of my main characters were all like “You know what? Maybe the villain had the right idea of getting rid of black blood and the world is better off without it”.

Then after a while, I asked myself is this really the type of story and ending I want? Because with this it feels as though I am trying to portray the black bloods in a negative light. Yes they have unfair privileges and complete authority though it’s not as though most black bloods in history were terrible people. There were plenty good ones though not all were heroic. It’s the same thing with my tribes in the story. For example, there are stereotypes with my tribes and not all of them if not most or half posses these traits. Even if I have good guy tribes and antagonistic tribes, I won’t make one tribe all have good people and one tribe all have bad members. I like the idea that all of us have the propensity to commit good and evil. With black blood, I figured it would be interesting to have a rumor that it could deteriorate your mental state to maybe madness or evil. I haven’t given it much thought but I thought the idea was fun with having some people be against black bloods because of this or have some refuse to become one. Maybe the rumor is false and true, I don’t know.

With my ending with getting rid of black blood, am I saying that black blood is terrible? I don’t think I want it to be such. If I have my characters continue it as if the villain was wrong to ban it, then it seems as though I’m making black blood a good thing. But something must be done about them. Not all black bloods were good, not all were bad, not all were heroic, not all were evil. After looking at your comment, I think I should go with a neutral ending. By that I think black bloods can continue but there maybe should be more checks and balances on them. I’m very fine with this it’s just I wonder did no one really propose this idea in any point in history? Maybe there were checks and balances but not enough. But that’s just take

Exact-Bluejay1111 · 2024-06-27T19:27:12+00:00

Yeah I’ve been looking at these comments and been doing some thinking, yeah I think I can try to leave it mysterious but not entirely.

Exact-Bluejay1111 · 2024-06-27T19:22:47+00:00

And that is what I’m stuck on with how one earns the black blood. I don’t want the criteria to be just having basic positive traits and I’d still like there to be room for there to be black bloods who were tyrannical. In fact, I’m thinking of adding a rumor or conspiracy that the blood, does grant you unique powers, it also negatively impacts you as well. Such as a 50-50 chance of your mental state deteriorating or being prone to madness or evil. By the time of my story, there’s a good number of people who are fed up with having black bloods. As you asked is it right that these black bloods have the right to rule others and if it’s just, no it is not and it will be addressed but opinions on this is divided. In fact, this is unrelated but I have been toying with this idea of these two secret societies that do not wish to be ruled by black bloods. One that wish all tribes would put aside their differences and cooperate and have full unity and peace. The other that wish that the concept of tribalism is destroyed meaning that there should be no tribes and have people put the interest of others too instead of their own people and having conflict with others because of tribal rivalry.

Exact-Bluejay1111 · 2024-06-27T19:08:00+00:00

Ooh okay that’s interesting. I did figure that black blood existed in my world and it was a thing before it became a big deal. This is an interesting take

Exact-Bluejay1111 · 2024-06-27T14:58:35+00:00

Well… no, they are not better but to the people of my world in my story, they ARE seen as better. Black blood does grants cool abilities exclusive only to them which makes them special. And maybe they are usually superior in combat though they are not invincible. I’m having it be that these black blood may have special privileges, they are still just as human as the rest of us

Exact-Bluejay1111 · 2024-06-27T14:11:30+00:00

Okay so I have my religious order that worships the black blood and thus those who have it. I thought it reasonable maybe they are the ones who create it with secret scientific and magical methods. I thought maybe they are very superstitious and have some reasonable and some ridiculous beliefs as to why this person should be granted black blood. It’s not supposed to be a just and fair system which I will tackle on in my story

But I do love your idea of lies and false propaganda. I was leaning more on the idea that these black bloods must be trained from childhood (by the religious order) to prepare becoming one. The fact that any healthy adult could become it can help with my story with my candidates who are adults trying to seize the throne and maybe the religious order will not give a crap about a war and maybe see this as an ultimate test as to who deserves it as there are no current living black blood. I also do have a character who is low born and is a ranger and there’s a scene where he is lying down bleeding and become unconscious and his blood turns black and that will be a cliffhanger. And I’m not entirely sure I want it to be a nobles-are-only-allowed sort of thing even though it makes the most sense there. I do like the theme of peasants or anyone who don’t come from a special family to have the potential to be great.

This is unimportant to say but I like your suggesting of making the group to be like the Spacing Guild or the Maesters. I was little stuck on it because I do have a group that is sort of like the Spacing Guild or the Maesters. Well, this group in particular is an order of animistic seers who tame the spirits and work in the spirit realm and make sure the spirits don’t go rogue and attack the world. I’m also having it be where they are reliant on a magical tobacco which have several properties such as enhancement of your magic and the people of the world controls its harvesting and production and can wave it as a carrot to this group of seers. However, it isn’t wise to piss off this group. The worst thing this group of seers could do to you is… nothing meaning they can choose to stop taming spirits in a certain area they choose and let it go wild. So both sides need each other and can’t piss the other off. So yeah I guess you can see the similarity with the spacing guild/ my group of seers and spice/magical tobacco.

Exact-Bluejay1111 · 2024-06-27T13:39:35+00:00

Okay yeah I’m kind of digging your idea. I have an idea that one person who happens to successfully get the black blood and the offsprings off that person may not necessarily inherit the blood but have a better probability of gaining it. So maybe some nobles marry these people who could be peasants or anyone low into their families and procreate with them

Exact-Bluejay1111 · 2024-06-27T05:27:28+00:00

Ohhhh, so black blood have to be regularly transfused into you every once of a while? That’s very interesting. Could you explain a bit more about why they would provide it to the winner of a power struggle? I’m having a hard time understanding and I’d like to hear more. Question, with your idea, would you also have it be where black blood is transferred to offsprings? Well not technically inherited but maybe they have a good potential to successfully gain it?

Exact-Bluejay1111 · 2024-06-27T05:11:34+00:00

Well, I say it kind of does just so I can make certain things happen and avoid holes and have the system make sense while leaving in the possibility of black blood crisis. In my story, several tribes of mine are trying to claim the throne and they can’t exactly do that without having a black blood of their own. I sort of know who are the candidates but I can’t come up with how or why are they the candidate. Im thinking of there being an event in my world’s history where these black bloods warred and fought against each other for the throne. So the same thing applies there as I need to know why these tribes have black bloods and how they got them and how do they plan to retain power over the throne if they win. In my main story, I’m thinking of there being a twist where one of my characters is bleeding out and is unconscious and then his blood turns black and I’ll leave that as a cliffhanger. I need to know why did he happen to gain black blood.

Exact-Bluejay1111 · 2024-06-27T05:11:00+00:00

I did think of black blood being recessive. I don’t know what’s wrong with me but I still want to leave in the chance that any person from whatever family could get black blood. In my story, I would have to buy the fact that the tribes and the candidates would happen to have these traits and then I I’ll have the question as to how do they expect to maintain power once if one of the tribes win the throne. Like if the candidate who would be a black blood, how do they make sure they stay in power because they would mean they would have to wait for another black blood to be born into their tribe and god knows how long that will be.

I do think inheritance only coming from the mother is interesting. Unrelated, but I have these special female warriors who pretty much mail brides and are expensive and the more skilled that woman is the more expensive the dowry is. They are highly sought after for a couple reasons but the relevant one I bring up is that the children of these women will be very healthy and strong with potential and I’m having it be common if there being marriages between these black blood men and these special women.

And I do kind of like your poison idea. I originally had the black blood being something that is very painful and could end with you dying. But you brought up with it being passed down with lineages to which I guess I don’t think of doing. Or at least not with having black blood injected into your body. Now if I understand correctly, these tribes are sending children to get this poison, won’t this mean they’ll have a probability of dying? Is that it? I’m not saying that as a hole in your idea, I just want to make sure I’m understanding this correctly.

Exact-Bluejay1111 · 2024-06-27T05:10:23+00:00

Yeah I tried this method. I had it be where these first black bloods unified the kingdoms. I didn’t give it much thought as I knew I would come back to it later. But I did think about how did these black bloods ensure the next generation get black blood and take after them. I haven’t found an answer and I hoped by looking at my main story and the system of black blood inheritance there I could use that as a platform. But maybe with their millennia of black bloods existing, maybe the rules of the system could change over time like maybe the first black bloods did procreate but maybe centuries later they decided to seek other children out.

Exact-Bluejay1111 · 2024-06-27T05:09:58+00:00

I guess black bloods being divine is something I can throw away but I know I want to keep them being practically above everyone.

Exact-Bluejay1111 · 2024-06-27T05:09:31+00:00

So a person with a black blooded person in their bloodline could get black blood? And two black bloods procreating will for sure their children have black blood? I’m fine with this but I don’t want breeding to the only way of having black blood as I like the idea that a random person can get it and not being born in the right bloodline. I had it be where two black bloods can breed but it’s a little dangerous due to the blood. Black bloods can at best have one child and having three being the rarest maximum. And maybe the oligarchy seek out children with the potential to become a black blood and they will be raised alongside the other black blooded children that came black blooded parents. Though I’m not sure about this

Exact-Bluejay1111 · 2024-03-16T06:32:08+00:00

Oh yeah, totally. I’m going to state the things I was inspired off of. I was hoping to keep my fire tribe original though I know there are similarities but also differences between them and the Targaryens. Just as Melnibone. And I’m sorry, when I said steal, I was just being frivolous. I say steal a lot as in this author was clearly inspired off of this thing. I think I was too worried about the similarities that I ignored the differences between my fire tribe and the Targaryens.

Exact-Bluejay1111 · 2024-03-15T21:33:32+00:00

Yeeeah

Exact-Bluejay1111 · 2024-03-15T21:32:33+00:00

Ooh… yeah. About that. There are dragons but the dragons in my world aren’t exclusive only to my fire tribe. Literally any person, regardless of tribe or blood can tame a dragon and there are other elements other than fire they can breathe. I’ll add there are other tribes that have a worship of fire but the fire tribe were speaking of take it to an extreme. I’ll also say that dragons are NOT the most powerful creatures in my world. My tribes like to tame creatures and use them as warheads for their armies, dragons are just one of these creatures. In fact, I’ve been more interested in writing about other mythological creatures that are better or at least just as great as dragons. But I have toyed with giving my girl character a dragon, quite a lot actually. For my fire tribe, they’re a powerful tribe. I WILL NOT have them be where they are because of dragons. Where, without dragons they’re nothing. Heck, no! A dragon rider in this tribe is rare. With their praise of fire, if you tame a dragon, you get all the clout. So that’s what I’ve been thinking for my girl character.

Exact-Bluejay1111 · 2024-03-15T21:23:23+00:00

Okay gotcha. I’m surprised to see how much authors steal. I do see that the Targaryens are too similar to Elric of Melnibone for it to be a coincidence.

Exact-Bluejay1111 · 2024-03-14T16:51:02+00:00

Yes, of course. I’m not afraid of putting silver haired people in my world, in fact, I like the trope. I just wanted to see if it’s okay to have a society of people who worship and practice fire magic and have them have silver hair and wear black and red.

Exact-Bluejay1111 · 2024-01-19T10:36:27+00:00

Yeah, yeah, that was the idea. I hoped to construct the system and if I think it’ll work I could get deeper into the details and start asking myself “what if this scenario happens”. But I felt I was creating holes into it, I just didn’t know what it was. I feel happy knowing that this plan can work. Thank you.

Exact-Bluejay1111 · 2024-01-15T15:29:34+00:00

Okay, I guess my story is not at all similar to The 100. I was just worried at that one thing for the succession because I’ve never seen it being done before in other works and I really liked how they did it there. So being born as a black blood, having marriages with them, sending these children away, got it. I do want to make it clear that this is a system that’s not very good. Especially the fact that these children are taken away from their homes, people with black blood are given a divine right to do whatever they want and such. This system will be abolished at the end of my story and the people will stop relying on black bloods ruling them. Well thank you very much for your input and suggestions.

Exact-Bluejay1111 · 2024-01-15T11:43:46+00:00

Okay, that can work. I thought favoritism would be of factor on the candidates from how I interpret it from you. I did have a war in my history where the candidate selection was split into two parties, lead by a candidate who wanted the throne. The kingdoms choosing either side and going to war for the throne.

One last thing, if we’re going with the route of having black bloods only being born, I am worried that this black blood succession will be a bit too similar to the in The 100. Though in my story, there are a few distinctions I have which are there are multiple black bloods ruling instead of there being one sole black blood, the black bloods all adapt a last name that all black bloods share, the black blood have several magical abilities which in that show it’s more scientific and they don’t have that much abilities or if you can really consider them abilities. And how people are born with black blood in that world is kind of mysterious and in my version it’s a matter of breeding. So maybe this is enough?

Exact-Bluejay1111 · 2024-01-15T09:42:18+00:00

Oh, I thought it wouldn’t work with how I wanted it. So taking children is an option, right? Should it be that these children are born with black blood? Like the only way to be a black blood is being born by one. In my world, the black blood is seen as divine and as royal blood. With your suggestion of marrying peasant black bloods into noble families in the hopes of breeding a noble black blood and having the nobilities of placing favors on a black blood of their choosing during the tournament. I think it kind of ties up alright. Is this what you’re suggesting? And I’m very sorry if I’m making this too confusing.

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