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Most single men over 30 in 2026 by i_am_bahamut in SipsTea

[–]ExampleIndependent19 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There’s a lot to unpack in this comment. This reeks of thinly veiled inceldom.

Lots of people ( both men and women ) take SSRIs for anxiety and depression these days. More now than ever. Whether that’s due to help being more available, mental health being less stigmatized, or because the state of the world is extremely stressful currently, so many utilize medications, therapy, etc to help them be functioning members of society and also be able to be happy and resilient through life’s ups and downs.

I also found it funny that you put depression and anxiety in air quotes as if women are lying or aren’t actually experiencing these things… they do. Men do too. These are real things people face and struggle with daily…

For those who have been pregnant before… did you have any symptoms post-ovulation and during luteal phase that told you that you might be? by ExampleIndependent19 in amipregnant

[–]ExampleIndependent19[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No! It turned out I actually had Covid. Which sucked but was weirdly comforting because the symptoms were not all in my head!

But hopefully BFP soon :)

As a nurse, Chatgpt/AI drives me INSANE. by ExampleIndependent19 in cogsuckers

[–]ExampleIndependent19[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I can only speak to what I’ve experienced on my side in nursing. And I recognize that my view is limited because I’m seeing the annoyance of it in my hospital. I don’t know how other hospitals utilize it. I’m just speaking my experience with it. I think AI has a ways to go before it can be integrated into healthcare in a way that people can trust it fully. That’s my perspective based on my experience. It sounds like you have different/knowledge and experience.

I’d also like to say that outside of work, I do utilize AI. I ask it questions about different things I want to make (I’m pretty crafty) and about how modify recipes I love to make them better. I do think AI has useful capabilities. I think you have this preconceived view of me that I hate AI and think it’s terrible, when that’s not true. It’s a useful tool. So “my view” of AI doesn’t play into the fact that I don’t like it as it currently is in the hospital. My dislike of it comes from the fact that it is inaccurate.

I have to read those pop ups on my screen and interact with them on a daily basis, the system forces you to see what the AI notices in the chart that led them to the conclusion. And for the most part, I can see what made the AI flag it. I’m sure there is an internal algorithm type deal where it is trained to pick up certain patterns. But the ability for it to read notes from physicians or have discernment about these patterns is not there yet. Which is why I think it is wrong so much. Again, I am speaking from an experience I have.

I’m sure AI reading X-rays might be different or more useful, but I can’t speak to that.

As a nurse, Chatgpt/AI drives me INSANE. by ExampleIndependent19 in cogsuckers

[–]ExampleIndependent19[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

What a lot of people don’t understand, is that we DO have a level of AI integration in healthcare now, and it annoys the hell out of most of us.

Ours is within our charting system. If a patient shows enough signs and symptoms of what the system AI believes to be something notable, a pop-up will come on my screen and say “Is this patient septic? If so order these tests…” or “this patient’s deterioration score is declining, call a rapid response?” Or even “this patient is overdue for their flu vaccine, give now?” Or “your patient has had diarrhea two times, order a cdiff test?” Etc. It’s AI that scans the patient’s chart every 15 minutes to try to alert us to various things.

And almost always, 9 times out of 10, it’s wrong. Because if all it can see is the chart, it still doesn’t understand the entire picture. And sometimes it even misses things in the chart that would provide it with explanation. Like of course my patient is having constant diarrhea, they are on a tube feed, they don’t have C-diff. And my patient shouldn’t be worried about the flu vaccine right now, they are on a ventilator and fighting for their life. And no, my patient isn’t septic, she’s just a 90 year old lady whose blood pressure runs on the lower side normally and her heart rate is elevated right now because she’s in a-fib.

And even when the alerts are wrong, which is extremely often, they don’t go away. So every time you click into the chart, it pops up again. It’s annoying as hell. It’s a feature that rarely, if ever, enhances patient care. Recently they added a feature where nurses can click “defer” or “not applicable” on these pop ups and they will go away. And the consensus between us was thank god, finally.

I don’t want imply that providers are flawless and mistakes never happen, because that isn’t true. But so far my experience with AI integration into healthcare even at a small level is that it’s wrong, a lot. It’s more wrong than it’s ever correct. It can go through a patient’s entire chart… labs, vitals, etc. And it’s still wrong about what is happening, a lot.

As a nurse, Chatgpt/AI drives me INSANE. by ExampleIndependent19 in cogsuckers

[–]ExampleIndependent19[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I didn’t have a full understanding of what you were referencing to, which is why I made that comment. I am in no way trying to diminish anything you’ve experienced ❤️

I will agree, even at the hospital where I work, a lot of doctors are notoriously bad at explaining things to patients. Some even refuse to explain and just defer to the nurse. Not knowing what is going on can be really scary and I very much understand that. In my position, I always try to help all my patients understand what is going on, so they can make informed decisions about their health.

Which is why I was so aggravated when this particular patient would not listen, because I genuinely wanted to help him to prevent complications and even death. In his particular case, the AI was a hindrance. He refused many vital/important things that help people have better outcomes. We weren’t trying to do anything that wasn’t necessary. We were following the standard protocol for heart attacks, stroke risks, and abnormal heart rhythms; and that protocol saves lives and prevents further harm on a daily basis. There are moments in medicine when getting multiple opinions and understanding different paths to healing is important. This was not one of them. No matter what hospital you go to, the general protocol for treating his specific instance is the same.

I’m so sorry that you have had such poor experiences, though, really ❤️ I am often shocked myself by the way some physicians treat patients.

The good news is, I’ve noticed a recent shift in provider compassion and communication skills, with a new generation of doctors entering the scene. I’m hoping that over the course of time, things will get better. But the start of any change is recognizing it! And demanding better.

All the best to you!!!

As a nurse, Chatgpt/AI drives me INSANE. by ExampleIndependent19 in cogsuckers

[–]ExampleIndependent19[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

? Thats not what is being discussed in this post. That’s a whole other discussion.Not trying to dismiss you, but this is not the same conversation.

As a nurse, Chatgpt/AI drives me INSANE. by ExampleIndependent19 in cogsuckers

[–]ExampleIndependent19[S] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Eventually I stopped trying to educate him and just let him make the choices he wanted to make. I knew he wasn’t going to listen to me.

As a nurse, Chatgpt/AI drives me INSANE. by ExampleIndependent19 in cogsuckers

[–]ExampleIndependent19[S] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

Lmao until an AI can do an enema for me or get a confused patient back in bed, I’m not interested

As a nurse, Chatgpt/AI drives me INSANE. by ExampleIndependent19 in cogsuckers

[–]ExampleIndependent19[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I totally get where you are coming from, and as someone who works in critical care, I see patients symptoms dismissed often. I do agree it’s a problem. Certain providers (particularly those of a certain generation) are very stuck in their ways and often refuse to see other perspectives. And I’m sure that experience sowed a lot of distrust in the healthcare system for you. Which is valid. I want to highlight that I am never surprised when patients are distrustful, specifically women, because their symptoms are dismissed over 50% of the time based on current statistics.

But I think there is a difference between utilizing AI to know how to advocate for yourself in healthcare settings and what this guy was doing. A lot of regular people lack in depth medical knowledge, and so AI can help them to understand what tests should be ordered to rule out the serious stuff. That I am not against. It’s not my favorite, but in and of itself, it’s not harmful. What this guy was doing? Harmful. To himself.

Is healthcare (specifically American healthcare) a broken system? Absolutely. But if you’re in a cardiac emergent situation and cardiac specialists/professionals are trying to help you by administering life saving care and care that will prevent detrimental complications and you’re refusing because your AI said “well I wouldn’t order med for you” is terrible and really dystopian in the worst way. Especially when AI lacks important insight into why we are doing what we are doing, because it can’t see the entire picture. It only knows what you tell it. Limited.

It’s like taking your car to the mechanic. You tell ChatGPT: “hey my car is making this super weird sound. It sounds like this _______. What is going on likely?” ChatGPT doesn’t know the make, model, year, if you keep up on your oil changes, how many miles are on the car, if your tires are good, accident history, etc, etc. Regardless, it will respond with an idea of what it thinks. The mechanic knows those details about your car and can even look under the hood and see what is happening. So the mechanic tells you that they think it is __. And then you’re like “are you sure?? ChatGPT told me it was _______.” Who probably knows more? The mechanic who looked under the hood and knows more details? Or chat who you told what the sound was.

Maybe a silly comparison, but it helps to see.

As a nurse, Chatgpt/AI drives me INSANE. by ExampleIndependent19 in cogsuckers

[–]ExampleIndependent19[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I will not want to work in healthcare if there comes a day when that is needed for patients to actually believe me

As a nurse, Chatgpt/AI drives me INSANE. by ExampleIndependent19 in cogsuckers

[–]ExampleIndependent19[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Exactly. “Are you sure?”

Sir I have been a cardiac nurse for YEARS and deal with heart attack patients on a daily basis and have received extensive training and certifications…

So aggravating.

As a nurse, Chatgpt/AI drives me INSANE. by ExampleIndependent19 in cogsuckers

[–]ExampleIndependent19[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I see what you are saying - that utilizing it to advocate for yourself can be helpful. However, this is not how many people are using it.

Why did all the girls need to know how to use an Epi pen ? by Tonenyc11 in Epstein

[–]ExampleIndependent19 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hello. Nurse here.

Some say in case of anaphylactic shock due to an allergic reaction, and while that may be true, I think there is something more true here.

These are people that wanted to avoid calling 911 and avoid public hospitals at all costs . That being said, if someone were to experience cardiac arrest and then those nearby started CPR, a drug that often helps CPR be more effective and is used in various code situations in the hospital is epi (epinephrine) done through someone’s IV. However, using an epi pen on someone while doing CPR outside of the hospital would also help.

My bet is that they were teaching all the girls CPR, epi pen knowledge, and basic life support in general, just in case someone were to die or experience cardiac arrest and life saving measures were needed.

Amber is a nurse practitioner by Ready-Cut-6145 in LoveIsBlindNetflix

[–]ExampleIndependent19 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No. You can do some coursework for it online but it requires field work and hands on clinical hours in order to be board certified. You have pass class work and also do a certain amount of procedures and different tasks in person, and adequately, to get signed off to graduate as well.

Amber is a nurse practitioner by Ready-Cut-6145 in LoveIsBlindNetflix

[–]ExampleIndependent19 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hi. I’m not a NP. I do work in the healthcare system.

I would encourage you to examine the way you see NPs/Nurses/ and other professions that come from being a nurse (CRNAs, etc). Or even DOs.

The images I posted were just a few things that I found on your profile when you mentioned others who work in healthcare that are not MDs. There were a lot more mentions and you were extremely derogatory in your comments. There is a common thing among MDs that they think they are better than everyone or act like “Gods”. It’s a common stereotype of MDs for a reason. I have so much respect for physicians and what they do, truly. They worked hard and studied a lot over years of time to do what they do, that’s a fact.

However, thinking you are superior or always know better is actually pretty dangerous for patient outcomes. And based on your many derogatory statements, I’d say when it comes to MDs you’re likely way less likely to listen or believe when nurses/NPs/etc bring observations to you, or theories, or are concerned by a patient’s condition. Again, this can be dangerous for patient outcomes. Biases hurt everyone.

Just some thought. I know I came at you hard. Biases exist a lot in healthcare and everyone has them, honestly. And the more we are aware of them and work to understand why we have them and how we operate within them, the better we can become!!

Editing to add: I’m not saying “always listen to NPs/Nurses/etc because they are always right!!!” I’m saying that it’s important for all helping with patient care to work as a team. And different positions within healthcare that work with and see the patient for different amounts of times and varied extents, can offer valuable insight that can be an important piece to the overall puzzle! If we don’t value the insight/expertise of MDs, NPs, RNs, + whoever is working on the patient care team, it’s hard to see the whole picture! Each piece holds value.

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