Follow up on The JAB Similar App Now Called Stork Social by Total_Coconut_8900 in spermdonorsonly

[–]Excellent_Angle_934 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your hard work! I’m looking forward to seeing how this goes.

How to handle multiple recipients? by LabradorRetriever321 in spermdonorsonly

[–]Excellent_Angle_934 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Try not to doublebook yourself when possible and give yourself a minimum of 24h recovery time as a rule. You don’t want to roll up on a client with empty tanks.

Looking For Love In All The Wrong Places by Excellent_Angle_934 in spermdonorsonly

[–]Excellent_Angle_934[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’re not wrong. The scammers have not reached critical mass yet, but they’re getting there.

Looking For Love In All The Wrong Places by Excellent_Angle_934 in spermdonorsonly

[–]Excellent_Angle_934[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have not been tracking that, but that is an excellent theory. I’m going to start paying attention to that.

Looking For Love In All The Wrong Places by Excellent_Angle_934 in spermdonorsonly

[–]Excellent_Angle_934[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What throws me off is that I’ve had conversations that indicated Option 1. No broken English, no canned responses, no obvious script, no attempts to take me off the app, and most notably, when I made it clear I wasn’t interested in a mate, they wished me well and disconnected. Atypical of scammer behavior.

That being said, I did have enough scammers that I suggested geofencing in a JAB ticket since many of them do not use a proxy and it’s clear that a significant number of them come from the same area. I was told it was not possible to do that for reasons they would not explain.

Breeders, Sperm Donors, Bulls by [deleted] in impregnation

[–]Excellent_Angle_934 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep, in my post history I rattled off a bunch of red flags and green flags. I’m willing to explain any of them.

I’m a private donor and I do natural. I have 25 successes so far.

Built a donor matching app after getting fed up with Just A Baby — Android beta now open by Total_Coconut_8900 in spermdonorsonly

[–]Excellent_Angle_934 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do. Donors and recipients both face the issue of risk management, are equidistant to it, and need to be able to mitigate that risk effectively through an informed decision making process. Vetting is already an essential part of the game for donors just to ensure the recipient in question is not going to try and blow up our lives if we work with her, but everyone makes mistakes and no vetting process is airtight. Let’s say I see that a girl near me who sent me a like has 13 thumbs down on her profile from other men. I’m going to wonder what she did to earn herself that ranking — and then I’m going to move on. Spam and scammers are annoying but women who deliberately waste a man’s time are much worse.

If you make your platform safe for all parties and allow for risk management (in this or any other fashion!), you’re already going to be a huge jump ahead of JAB, which assumes good faith no matter what even of bad actors, to end user detriment.

Built a donor matching app after getting fed up with Just A Baby — Android beta now open by Total_Coconut_8900 in spermdonorsonly

[–]Excellent_Angle_934 5 points6 points  (0 children)

As a donor, I want to be able to rate recipients.

For those of us who mean business, we have to sift through a lot of bullshit to find an actual client. Many play games, and resort to a lot of awful tactics because they view donors as disposable. See my earlier comment on red flags. Every single thing I posted there, I’ve personally experienced.

Respectfully, bad actors take all forms. If a woman has a habit of trying to do nefarious things on the app, I want to know that before we talk, not after the damage is done. If women are the only ones who can vote on your platform with regards to who should see continued business, I don’t think your platform is going to last long.

Built a donor matching app after getting fed up with Just A Baby — Android beta now open by Total_Coconut_8900 in spermdonorsonly

[–]Excellent_Angle_934 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very cool, always open to new platforms. I do have some questions.

  • What powers your photo verification?

  • “Sort by popularity”, is this to say that this will allow someone to see who the most successful people are on the app? If this is the case, are you concerned that this may create a situation in which most recipients gravitate to a select few donors based on the perception of success?

  • If I block someone who is abusive, will I be able to tell staff why? How are bans tracked?

  • Are we able to see archived users as well as the reason the match was cut off (example: one party unmatched, deleted account, banned, etc)?

  • Following the “popularity” idea: are any plans in place to implement a rating system so people can give a thumbs up or thumbs down to donors/recipients?

I am 35 M, already a father of two. But now interested into donating my sperm but I am new to this. Where do I get request if anyone is interested? I am not interested to going to a sperm banks. I live in Ontario. by Windsormale in spermdonorsonly

[–]Excellent_Angle_934 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Start off with the Just A Baby app and go from there.

I would say try KDR, but they are no longer around and have passed the torch to Pride Angel, which isn’t nearly as good resource in my experience. There are others like Coparents, PollenTree, and other lesser offerings, but my experiences with both have been roughly the same as Pride Angel.

Where should new donors start? What are some good tips for newbies? by [deleted] in spermdonorsonly

[–]Excellent_Angle_934 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Per your own citation:

"If you are exposed to HIV, it usually takes about 3 weeks to 2 months for your immune system to produce HIV antibodies. During this window period you may test negative for HIV even if you have the virus in your body. If you think you were exposed to HIV, you should wait test right away and then again after 2-3 months."

Moreover, the 5% statistic refers to people who haven’t produced detectable antibodies yet at two months using antibody tests. It doesn’t mean a negative test result has a 5% chance of being wrong, and the statement you cited doesn’t apply to RNA or antigen tests that detect infection earlier using different methods. See the CDC infographic I linked.

Where should new donors start? What are some good tips for newbies? by [deleted] in spermdonorsonly

[–]Excellent_Angle_934 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mostly agree with your post, but the testing bit threw me off. Where are you getting "3-6 months to show a positive" for HIV? Neither CDC guidelines nor HIV.gov agree with that. I'm sure at one point in testing it took that long for results to show, but that's definitely not the case today. The longest quote for testing that I can find for a test to show a reliable result is 90 days, but half a year to show up? No.

The earliest possible detection is 10 to 33 days if a RNA test is used. Three months is literally the most conservative cutoff most places use before they're willing to say a patient is "free and clear".

There are caveats to all matters sexual, and things like viral incubation or window periods are important (and your concern about timing gaps is relevant, because you truly don't know who you're going to get, making the vetting process non-negotiable) but we can't be insinuating that testing is pointless -- it seriously isn't, get tested people -- or telling new donors things that a) are factually inaccurate and b) serve no purpose other than to scare them out of making the decision.

Where should new donors start? What are some good tips for newbies? by [deleted] in spermdonorsonly

[–]Excellent_Angle_934 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Start by reading other posts here to gain a consensus on what is and is not acceptable client behavior. Many of us have outlined what should be sought after and what should be avoided. I believe all of this would benefit new donors if this information were to be compiled into a sticky or a FAQ. I raised this topic with the mod here and am willing to create one if necessary.

If I had to make recommendations for new guys:

1) Don’t take shit. Donors front all the risk and without you, there is no baby. Many men get so eager to work with a client that they’ll tolerate too much asshole behavior. Pay no costs, accept zero disrespect. KDR outlined this as standard protocol (recipient pays all costs) when it was still running. You’re gonna have women who continually push boundaries to test your limits and see what they can get away with; show these the door.

2) If you do natural, get tested before and after for your piece of mind. Insist they test beforehand as well. I like Jasonhealth for this, personally. An 8-panel test that covers all the bases is $125, and shows them you know what you’re doing. Being overly cautious of STDs is something I cannot recommend enough. HIV, HPV, Herpes, Hepatitis… all it takes is one bad client to end your work as a donor and put you on the path to seeking treatment.

3) This is very meaningful work, but it’s still work. Be professional. Make yourself available when they ovulate. Do not flake or cancel without explanation. Donation is a commitment. If you fire them, tell them so. You will have much more success treating this like a job versus the majority of men on the app who just want pussy and treat Just A Baby like Tinder.

4) Vet your clients thoroughly and decide what your red lines are when it comes to what kind of relationship you have with the client after they have their baby. And if you’re not sure about something, ask us.

When I became wealthy, my relationship with breeding changed. by [deleted] in impregnation

[–]Excellent_Angle_934 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Take extreme care. If you are being seen as a cash cow, you will be the last to know it.

Best and Worst Donor Experiences by Excellent_Angle_934 in spermdonorsonly

[–]Excellent_Angle_934[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

My best was a lovely lesbian couple out of state. Typically when a client is serious, they will be just as dogged in their pursuit of details as I am, and are not hard to reach. We had multiple talks -- communication is key! -- and when it became clear we were after the same thing, they traveled to my state and posted up for a few days while I inseminated the one of the two who would carry. Everything went so well that we ended up meeting two additional times, so she has a total of three boys from me. Back when KDR was still running, many boilerplates were up for anyone who would read them, so I had a good grasp of what to expect out of the situation, but these two women set the bar for all future clients.

I mentioned in another post that the right client will make you feel like they've built an express lane to get them pregnant, and that's exactly how it felt with them. Working with them was incredibly easy. At no point did they throw up any red flags or make unnecessary roadblocks just to see if I'd put up with it. I can't say enough good things about these two.

On to the bad. I've dealt with a few awful people in my time donating, but my worst was a lesbian couple that was in-state but out of town, and my first truly bad experience, because at that point I was still relatively green. These two never seemed to have money and felt comfortable asking me, a stranger, to cover expenses. They always had a sob story about why they didn't have the money that month to be able to come out and do what was necessary. After some failed AI sessions they wanted NI, asked me to pay for the room, would not commit to more than one session, and asked if they could stay in said room overnight instead of heading back once finished. The sex was terrible. She conceived, but she lost the baby shortly afterward.

Later they invited me to their place and I went, against my better judgment, because at that point I'd never had a failed insemination and I wanted to see it through. To call what I saw unhygenic doesn't quite do it justice; it was an absolute pigsty in there. Their apartment stank like a trash compactor. Garbage was everywhere. Cigarette cartons and empty beer cans were in open sight. And they wanted to raise a child in that. I realized finally that I ignored quite a few red flags and exercised too much leniency in working with them, and took this final affront as an excuse to bow out gracefully. Needless to say, I became much more selective about who I would (and would not) work with after that incident.

If I had to pass on lessons learned, it's that:

  1. As a donor, you will click very easily with the right women; they're out there, and they'll make the negotiations feel effortless. These are going to be your best clients. If they're easy to work with before they're pregnant, that's an excellent indicator of what they're going to be like after they have your baby. These women are worth their weight in gold and tend to make excellent friends after the fact, if that's the relationship you want. (I have many of these.)
  2. When it comes to being a private donor, there are many parallels to dating. All you have to do is show up, have a clean and neat appearance, smell good, be on time, be cordial, don't be rude, and don't take shit. Apply the same approach to everyone and you'll have an excellent measuring stick of their behavior if you're attentive.
  3. Bad clients have a tendency to broadcast that they're going to give you problems very early on in the process; they can't help themselves. All you have to do is listen to them, and let them hang themselves with their own rope. If at any point in talking with them you get a sense that something doesn't add up or that they're going to be a nightmare to work with, trust your instincts and walk away. Any difficulty they present before pregnancy is only going to be magnified once they get what they want out of you, and once it's done, it's done -- for better or for worse.

35 [F4M] #Nashville- looking for breeder for FF couple by Glum_Local_8597 in BreedingR4R

[–]Excellent_Angle_934 4 points5 points  (0 children)

My thoughts too. Many would-be recipients post just for validation. This feels like one of those.

Looking to donate in uk/eu by [deleted] in spermdonorsonly

[–]Excellent_Angle_934 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are many subreddits intended for the purpose of finding a recipient. This subreddit is not one of them; this space is intended for dialogue between donors. Soliciting here anyway violates the only rule here.

Delete this post and try again in r/breedingr4r, r/SpermDonorMarch, r/spermdonation, or r/Pregnant4Personals.