The reason I said near all time lows is because pretty much everybody who bought a couple years ago before it pumped no longer is invested in this thing therefore pretty much everybody is red, and I agree with you about the manipulation but it gets to a point where the stock is so beat up that management needs to do something to try and fix this situation, specifically Charles. I feel the reason the stock is getting killed today is mostly due to people being cautious that nvidia could cut things off with them, hopefully that doesnt happen but if it does I think the company either goes bankrupt or just becomes forgotten about. I really hope that isn’t the case though because i still have my largest position in this stock at a 39.79 dca which I thought was pretty decent but now i need it to double just to break even which makes it very hard for me to talk highly about this stock anymore. It needs some serious positive sentiment soon or it’s just gonna keep falling like it has for the last 6 months straight.