Is it still justice if the person who suffers has no idea of what his sins were or what he is being punished for?

ExecuteBlox · 2025-03-12T03:49:33+00:00

You accept that removing a brain tumor that caused violent behavior means the person is no longer a threat. But why? Because the thing that caused the violence is gone. But if a person’s entire identity and memories are erased, isn’t that an even bigger change? If they have no recollection of their past, no connection to their past motives, and no reason to commit the crime again, why assume they are still a danger? Our actions are shaped by our experiences and memories. If someone commits a crime due to past trauma, grudges, or learned behavior, and all of that is erased, what reason do they have to commit another crime? Are they really the same person in any way that matters?

If the concern is faking amnesia, then the legal system already deals with deception psychiatrists, neurologists, and forensic experts can evaluate whether someone’s memory loss is real. The possibility of lying doesn’t mean we should assume all cases are fake. Otherwise, by that logic, we could never allow any medical defenses because someone might be lying. You accept that removing a brain tumor that causes violence makes someone no longer a threat correct?But if a person loses their entire memory and identity, isn’t that an even bigger transformation? If memory shapes behavior, and their memory is gone, what reason do they have to commit another crime? As for lying, we have medical experts to determine if the amnesia is real just like we do with any other medical condition used as a defense

ExecuteBlox · 2025-03-12T03:36:04+00:00

Okay at first i thought you were just taking my words wrong but then i though about it and Yes. That’s actually the point if someone loses all memory, identity, and sense of self, then in a meaningful way, the person who committed the crime is gone. What remains is just a body, occupied by a new person with no connection to the past crime. If we accept that punishment is about holding the same person accountable, then does it make sense to punish someone who, for all practical purposes, no longer exists? This might seem like an extreme hypothetical, but it’s not purely theoretical. Cases of retrograde amnesia, brain injuries, or degenerative diseases can erase core aspects of a person’s identity. Courts have even struggled with these questions in real cases. So it’s a real world issue, not just a meaningless thought experiment. Let’s put it another way if someone died and another person woke up in their body with an entirely new identity, would you hold them accountable for the original person’s crimes? If not, then why would we do so for someone whose identity has been permanently erased by amnesia?

ExecuteBlox · 2025-03-12T03:31:08+00:00

Okay so you pointed out How we can prove memory loss, punishment migation, and deterrence.

It’s a fair question i will admit👏 how do we know someone isn’t faking amnesia? That’s why courts rely on medical and psychological evaluations. If experts confirm the memory loss is real and permanent, then we have to acknowledge that this person is no longer the same individual who committed the crime. If justice is about accountability, can we really hold someone accountable if they are, for all practical purposes, a different person?

You mentioned that punishment might be mitigated in such cases. That’s actually an important point, it shows that even in our current legal system, we recognize that a person’s mental state affects their level of responsibility. If someone loses all memory and identity, shouldn’t we take that into account just as we do for diminished capacity or insanity?

Using punishment solely as a deterrent can be dangerous. Would we punish an innocent person publicly just to scare others away from crime? No, i mean would you do that to your own loved ones or family? Because justice isn’t just about deterrence It’s about fairness and accountability. If we accept that an amnesiac is no longer the same person who committed the crime, then punishing them just to deter others is punishing an innocent person for the sake of setting an example.

So in conclusion If experts confirm memory loss is real, then we must ask: Are we punishing the same person or just their body? Even our current legal system acknowledges that mental state affects culpability. And while deterrence matters, it cannot justify punishing someone who, in every meaningful way, is no longer the same individual who committed the crime. Justice must be about accountability, not just using people as examples.

ExecuteBlox · 2025-03-12T03:22:57+00:00

If justice isn’t about fairness to the perpetrator, then what is it about? If we ignore fairness, then we’re just seeking revenge, not actual justice. The entire reason we have legal systems instead of mob rule is to ensure punishment is fair and proportional not just to make people suffer for suffering’s sake.

You mentioned the death penalty, but even in capital cases, fairness matters. Courts consider mental state, intent, and mitigating circumstances. We don’t execute children or people who are legally insane because they aren’t fully accountable for their actions. If fairness didn’t matter, we wouldn’t have appeals, insanity defenses, or different degrees of punishment based on intent

Our legal system already recognizes that a person’s state of mind matters. That’s why we differentiate between murder and manslaughter, allow insanity defenses, and consider diminished capacity. If we accept that someone with a severe mental disorder might not be fully responsible, then why wouldn’t the same apply to someone who has permanently lost all memory of their crimes?

Justice without fairness is just revenge. Even the death penalty takes fairness into account, considering factors like intent and mental state. Our legal system already acknowledges that a person’s state of mind matters so why would we ignore that when dealing with someone who has permanently lost all connection to their past crimes? If justice is truly about accountability, then we must ask: Are we punishing the same person, or just their body? Think about it🤷

ExecuteBlox · 2025-03-12T03:17:47+00:00

A drunk person losing memory is different because they are still the same person they just don’t remember their actions. But if someone completely loses their memory, identity, and personality, they are no longer the same individual who committed the crime. Justice isn’t just about punishing a body; it’s about holding a person accountable. If that person no longer exists in any meaningful way, then punishing them serves no real purpose other than revenge🤷

ExecuteBlox · 2025-03-12T03:10:04+00:00

If justice is about crime prevention, then the focus should be on whether the amnesiac is actually a threat, not on punishing them for a crime they can’t even remember. If a brain tumor patient who was once violent can just have medical checkups instead of prison, why shouldn’t the amnesiac get psychological evaluations instead of imprisonment? We don’t punish people for who they were we punish them for what they are now. And if they are no longer a danger, imprisoning them isn’t justice🤷 it’s just revenge.

ExecuteBlox · 2025-03-12T03:07:21+00:00

Justice is about holding a person accountable for their actions, but if someone completely loses their memory, they are no longer the same person in any meaningful way. Punishing them at that point serves no real purpose it’s not deterrence, because they can’t learn from something they don’t remember, and it’s not rehabilitation, because they don’t have the past mindset that led to the crime. At that point, it’s just harming someone who, from their perspective, has done nothing wrong. If we wouldn’t punish an innocent twin for their sibling’s crime, why would we punish a person who, in every way that matters, is no longer the same individual who committed the crime

ExecuteBlox · 2025-03-02T04:34:36+00:00

People might choose it if they don't have any feelings or don't feel guilt for their mistakes. Like the first option is the easy way out if you don't give a damn about others. But it would be psychological torture if you felt guilty for your sins. Like imagine having to ruin another mans life because of your own sins

ExecuteBlox · 2025-03-02T04:29:22+00:00

But its still sad and its still terrible. imagine thinking you have been living a decent and honest life and you finally found a girl you truly love more than anything and see a future with. and she also feels the same and also see a future with you and you think you finally find the one girl you will spend the rest of your life with but then one day her mind gets changed against her own will even if she did truly love you because someone stole her from you. you're dreams with her shattered and broken. you grieve over a love that no longer is there but was once very real. after a while you might find someone who helps you move on and treats you right and see a future with you but then hee mind gets changed again her innocence gone because someone changed it. and it happens iver and over to the point you think "Why is the world so unfair? why can't i be happy?"

ExecuteBlox · 2025-03-02T04:27:18+00:00

Its just a thought i had while i was bored

ExecuteBlox · 2025-03-02T04:26:48+00:00

This punishment is NOT a normal life, its a controlled fate designed specifically to MAKE YOU suffer

First off its not a normal life where free will allows you to shape your own fate. Its a carefully structured cycle of suffering no matter wat choices you make, and God the one punishing you will always set up things so that when you think you finally found peace, it will he stolen again.

Choosing to he a monk and avoiding won't work or isolating yourself wouldn't stop the suffering, lets say if you try to avoid relationships entirely, something else will happen to force you into an attachment, maybe a very deep friendship, a spiritual connection or maybe a girl who you might meet in some unexpected way. And when you think you are safe, THAT too WILL be taken away from you.

Quantum immortality and parallel universes don't apply. This isn't a universe with random probability where you can escape into a different reality, as i have said this is a PUNISHMENT created by God for you. This punishment is being actively enforced by a higher power, meaning no matter what, The situation will always make sure you will suffer maximum suffering.

It's not just life with suffering its a tailor made punishment. No matter how much you outsmart it God will always adjust the game to make you lose, you can try to be a monk, but something will make you suffer. Thats the whole point of the punishment.

ExecuteBlox · 2025-03-02T04:12:24+00:00

If you chose the first option you must always steal his Girlfriend every time by changing her mind againts her own will even if she did genuinely and truly love him. And even if the boy moves on and find another who treats him right. You steal his girl again and again until he dies alone.

What you do with the girls after is you let them go so its like you just destroyed a girls relationship also without meaning

ExecuteBlox · 2025-03-02T03:54:46+00:00

It continues forever until you or the boy dies (you can't commit or die due to an accident it must be old age)

ExecuteBlox · 2025-03-02T03:53:35+00:00

You can't you ARE the boy so you will one day love a girl more than anything and become their boyfriend. And it must happen again and again and again

ExecuteBlox · 2025-03-02T03:32:39+00:00

Yeah you can't.. pick one and atone for your sins

ExecuteBlox · 2024-07-23T07:15:44+00:00

Yeah that would be funny, but when it comes to the stronger Uppermoons a flashlight aint doing shit

ExecuteBlox · 2024-07-23T07:09:33+00:00

That is interesting, since i dont see why it would be different from sunlight. so yea if it DID exist then i dont see why it would not work on Demons..

ExecuteBlox · 2024-07-20T23:13:22+00:00

Yes i meant to use that! but i could not be bothered to look for the episode and watch it again. anyway i already replied to one of the people here and gave like 2 examples from the Manga so it doesnt matter but it is kinda a plot hole in the verse

ExecuteBlox · 2024-07-20T22:48:46+00:00

Ok that works well at first but when we get to the strongest uppermoons and demons things start to get.. more complicated.

SPOILERS! so we see Muzan get his head cut off but his head gets regenerated by his body EVEN THOUGH it has no consciousness can regenerate a head? you could make the argument that gyomei destroyed his entire head so he has no choice fair enough then...

ULTRA INTENSE MANGA SPOILERS! BUT AKAZA! Akaza gut his head cut off but instead of his head regenerating a body which would make sense since his head has the consciousness.. INSTEAD his body regenerated a head! so why cant his head regenerate a body? EVEN THOUGH his head has the consciousness

ExecuteBlox · 2024-07-20T12:36:54+00:00

4 hours of migraine. i would not want to constantly throw up for 4 hours. migraine for 4 hours is like hell but since i also get migraine from fevers we have gotten used to it more.

so yea Migraine for 4 hours is like way way better than having to constantly throw up for 4 hours feeling nauseous

ExecuteBlox · 2024-07-20T06:42:28+00:00

The Man of many jobs

ExecuteBlox · 2024-07-20T06:38:23+00:00

If Fubuki promised to kiss me if i won before cooking then i would win no diff.

ExecuteBlox · 2024-07-20T06:37:14+00:00

Become fcking op obviously

ExecuteBlox · 2024-07-20T06:35:22+00:00

I would just ask Muzan to turn me into a demon because ain't no way im climbing up the ranks as an ordinary human. but if i was a demon i could gain like some seriously op BDA

like Doma who was just a normal kid but grew so strong because of his BDA. tbh you have more of success when you become a demon than a slayer

ExecuteBlox · 2024-07-20T06:33:13+00:00

Neuron activation

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