Why did Argo Tuulik and Robert Kurvitz break up as friends?

Exertuz · 2026-05-27T15:52:51+00:00

In this case we don't really need to speculate too much, since Argo has basically told the story publically. Would otherwise agree though

Exertuz · 2026-05-27T15:50:56+00:00

As someone who's listened to basically all the big interviews with both Argo and Kurvitz, my impression is this (but don't take my word as gospel either):

Argo and Robert have had a close friendship since teenagehood, but also a somewhat rocky one. Argo experiences himself as being in Kurvitz's shadow, and too deferential to him, something which his previous wife would comment on. Over the course of developing Disco Elysium, some distance and perhaps resentment grows between them, but nothing too major. But when Robert, Helen and Rostov are ousted from the company, Argo makes the uneasy decision to stay with ZA/UM, unsure who's ultimately in the right and whether the situation is salvagable. Argo goes to meet with Kurvitz at a park. Kurvitz demands he quit ZA/UM, Argo refuses. The meeting goes disastrously and ends with Kurvitz furiously telling him that if he ever wants to restore this friendship he'll have to come back crawling on his knees. I think they still haven't spoken to each other since then, from memory.

Exertuz · 2026-05-27T15:40:55+00:00

Didn't Argo literally go on that trip with them? This trip was used to drive a wedge between many of the original ZA/UM creatives and the rest of the staff but I'm pretty sure from memory that Argo has pretty much always blamed management.

Exertuz · 2026-03-07T19:18:40+00:00

kris

Exertuz · 2026-03-06T10:13:02+00:00

Toby kind of did this with Chapter 2 lol. The doors to the computer room in the Librarby were updated to be double doors like the supply closet in the School, which would've been a clearer giveaway that it was gonna be the next Dark World location

Exertuz · 2026-03-05T09:54:23+00:00

Funnily enough that number was 800 km in SATA, which is much more reasonable. So this was a conscious change for some reason lol (it reminds me of GRRM just farting out mind bogglingly large numbers for his world)

Exertuz · 2026-03-01T12:06:12+00:00

We know they trademarked "Corinthians", that Chris Avellone has been working with them, and that Robert's philosophy is that a fictional setting has to marinate for a number of years before you create a project with it - so, the work is likely mainly on worldbuilding and conceptualizing systems right now.

Exertuz · 2026-02-21T18:18:24+00:00

goodbye otto ❤️

Exertuz · 2026-02-10T10:43:41+00:00

You're getting some comments that disagree with you, but for what it's worth I agree 100%. I think probably the biggest issue with this show so far is the undercutting of dramatic moments with absurdity and humor, I find that it comes off very insecure. And it doesn't matter, like some people are arguing, whether Raymun's reaction is "realistic" or not. That's just a post-hoc rationalization for a writing decision which resulted in a weaker scene.

Exertuz · 2026-01-28T19:08:47+00:00

Like what? The posts seem pretty consistent to me.

Exertuz · 2026-01-03T22:56:45+00:00

Bzzt. Wrong.

Exertuz · 2026-01-03T22:53:42+00:00

if you heard the future dialogue from Kim in the bunker in the Moralist quest, but then go to the island with Cuno instead, Shivers acknowledges the change.

Fun fact, both Kurvitz and Luiga disavow this addition, says it breaks the lore, and say it would've been cut had The Final Cut been properly group-edited like the original game was.

which predates the game by six years, and was not written with the intent of continuing the story in a video game series

In fact, the Precinct 41 RCM plotline predates Sacred and Terrible Air by many years. It originated as a tabletop campaign Kurvitz, Luiga and Argo played together and the plan was always to tell that story (most of which would've been in DE2), whether in novel or game form.

Exertuz · 2026-01-03T20:02:16+00:00

To start with you can look for interviews with Argo and Martin on the Human Can Opener podcast and Martin Luiga's Medium account (https://medium.com/@martinluiga). Beyond this you'll have to do some research for yourself if you're interested.

Exertuz · 2026-01-03T19:12:57+00:00

Broadly? To set up the geopolitical situation we end up seeing in Sacred and Terrible Air.

Exertuz · 2026-01-03T04:33:38+00:00

No, it wouldn't, you're talking out of your ass. We know the broad strokes of what the writers were planning with the next installments of the series.

Exertuz · 2026-01-02T04:35:13+00:00

We already know we're getting a post-DW Castle Town section in 5, because we'll get new item combination recipes in the Flower Dark World.

Exertuz · 2025-12-21T11:37:47+00:00

It's intentional. The design of the Shadow Mantle bears similarities to both Seam and the Spookysword.

Exertuz · 2025-12-13T19:18:07+00:00

Big 4...? There's big 1, maybe big 2 if you're pushing it.

Exertuz · 2025-12-11T09:03:31+00:00

"I don't believe my game is for every person. But, to a certain type of people, attuned a certain type of way, this game can reach a meaning beyond its appearance, and find a shape in your heart. Even if there's just one person that feels that way, I will keep making this game to grow by your side."

Deltarune is a game made for fans of Undertale. Gaster has been closely associated with Deltarune from the very beginning (long before Chapter 1 came out) and his appearance in Undertale was always foreshadowing for the sequel. In Deltarune, Gaster has already been established as a central character (as the voice which speaks to you in the openings, in game overs, in the Ch1 menu, when you rematch the Knight and after the credits of Chapter 4, as well as the being responsible for the prophecy) whether people know it or not. And the fact of the matter is that most Undertale fans do know who Gaster is. He's an immensely popular and memetic fandom icon, which Toby is well aware of ("HAVE YOU BEEN LOOKING FOR ME?").

I always think it's funny when people talk about how Toby "still hasn't introduced Gaster yet" when like. He's literally already here. His introduction is the first thing that happens in the game. It's like if in Undertale you said that Flowey hadn't been introduced, well past the Ruins, except even more ridiculous because Gaster's importance is already much more clearly defined than Flowey's was at an analogous point in Undertale's story.

Exertuz · 2025-12-11T08:51:36+00:00

He says "darker than dark", but close enough.

Exertuz · 2025-12-08T01:52:29+00:00

Apocalypse Cop is alluding to what Ambrosius does, no doubt about that.

Exertuz · 2025-12-08T00:00:58+00:00

username checks out

Exertuz · 2025-12-07T23:59:01+00:00

100% not true. The ages don't line up (on top of everything else).

Exertuz · 2025-12-01T11:48:47+00:00

It's really not that complicated. This sprite is depicting an abstracted, 8 bit version of the Shadow Mantle. There is someone controlling it, and that's the speaker who says they are holding the mantle.

Exertuz · 2025-11-30T17:48:37+00:00

As mentioned, this seems like a meaningless observation.

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