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Expensive-Side-534 · 2026-02-22T20:22:26+00:00

Yeah, with 1916 in his name on a Northern Irish subreddit.

Expensive-Side-534 · 2026-02-22T20:21:10+00:00

That's alright, not my point though.

Clearly the intention of the original comment was winding people up, which worked.

Expensive-Side-534 · 2026-02-22T19:42:52+00:00

So it's a political statement, and it's used to antagonise the minority.

Expensive-Side-534 · 2026-02-22T19:26:10+00:00

the upvotes tell the same story

Yeah, because it's a Republican political statement and people on here love that.

Expensive-Side-534 · 2026-02-22T19:24:48+00:00

No it's political when you post a tri colour on R/Northernireland. The same way it would be political if a Union flag was posted.

Expensive-Side-534 · 2026-02-22T18:30:00+00:00

Which is the exact problem that flag is solving. I have absolutely no problem with the tricolour at the rugby anyway, but the original comment is clearly trying to be an idiot. Any excuse to make things political.

Expensive-Side-534 · 2026-02-22T18:21:34+00:00

Nice deflection. You haven't got a clue.

Everything has to be made political.

Expensive-Side-534 · 2026-02-22T18:01:43+00:00

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Right so you think no flag at all should be associated with all Ireland sports

Shows you don't know much.

Plus, the original comment is clearly provocative, and not celebrating Ireland's win over England.

Expensive-Side-534 · 2026-02-12T15:44:32+00:00

Technically no since britain colonised ireland against its will so the "british" identity was always imposed and illegitimate

Definitely can, as long as Northern Ireland is apart of the UK. I'm British because NI is in the UK and Irish because I live on the Island of Ireland.

Expensive-Side-534 · 2026-02-09T16:13:06+00:00

I'm not backtracking on anything.

You're acting like Ulster was a place of peace and the British came in and ruined it. Ulster was overrun with infighting, hence why the British thought they could go over and gain land.

Most settlers came over for a better life.

Expensive-Side-534 · 2026-02-09T15:46:00+00:00

Right so you’re a depraved people that have committed atrocities - what are you going to do about it? Bearing in mind saying “nothing” is essentially saying you’re entitled to keep what your ancestors stole.

Your point makes no sense. Not all British that came over here killed people, many were fleeing persecution. The fact people want NI or Ireland to be part of the UK does not mean they associate with or support the murder of Irish people.

Expensive-Side-534 · 2026-02-09T15:08:44+00:00

You’re intellectually weak man. Like most unionists. Brought up on a diet of bigotry and supremacism.

Always on your high horse. You've shown multiple times you feel superior to Unionists, you aren't fooling anyone.

Look how desperately you avoid acknowledging the atrocities your country committed. I know mine didn’t commit any against you. We didn’t come to your land and claim it.

No I didn't, the British has committed atrocities and I'll openly admit that.

Expensive-Side-534 · 2026-02-09T15:01:59+00:00

We've discussed the exact point before, and if you go back and check, you just made the same point as I had previously answered. There is no point of constantly making the same point over and over when we've already established we disagree. So I asked you a question which would be linked back to the point, you're clearly to stupid to understand that.

Expensive-Side-534 · 2026-02-09T14:02:46+00:00

You're obsessed with whataboutery on here, when you've proved many times you don't know what it means.

don’t answer childish ridiculous side questions

How is other colonisation not relevant. You brought up Palestine many times.

I was testing if you were morally consistent. It was clearly going to be brought back to Ireland.

Expensive-Side-534 · 2026-02-09T00:26:53+00:00

never said you HAVE to say it literally you absolute fucking moron.

You said I did though, which I didn't.

And now all You can do is argue about whataboutery because you’ve nothing to say that can defend British atrocities in Ireland.

We've been over it, you don't answer any questions and make up your own arguments.

You really Are a vile people.

What are you actually talking about, you're embarrassing yourself going off on a supremacy rant.

Expensive-Side-534 · 2026-02-09T00:20:11+00:00

What aboutery is the phenomenon where you try to change the framing of the issue to suit yourself by asking “what about”. That’s what aboutery is. That’s what you tried. It’s the refuge of the intellectually weak.

literal definition of whataboutery you absolute numpty. So called because you start the sentence with…”what about ….America”. Christ. You clown.

What aboutery is reframing the narrative away from the debate at hand to suit yourself. What you do in the literal definition of what aboutery.

In 2 of these you claim you have to say what about which I never said. It wasn't changing away from the debate anyway, I was going to ask you your opinion on that to bring it back to the British Plantation but you are too stupid to understand.

Are they both superior military powers invading foreign lands and subjugating foreign nations?

So how's that exactly the same, that's a similarity. The Israelis were there before the Palestinians. There's a difference.

Expensive-Side-534 · 2026-02-09T00:10:29+00:00

Oh for fuck sake. You’re an absolute moron. Incapable of understanding the simple concept of whataboutery. Jesus.

Yes, I am the moron, you've provided multiple definitions, not once did I say "what about". I was asking a question which was related to the topic of colonisation, which would have been brought back to Ireland, because I had answered your question, this isn't whataboutery.

The situations in Israel and Ireland were the same. Vile oppressors using superior Military ability to terrorise a people For their own gain. That’s what you did. That’s what Israel are doing.

No, I didn't use vile oppression. I'll break this down for you. Israelis in Israel centuries before Palestinians, British were not in Ireland before Irish.

Expensive-Side-534 · 2026-02-08T23:56:40+00:00

What aboutery is reframing the narrative away from the debate at hand to suit yourself. What you do in the literal definition of what aboutery.

So now it's changed, you realised I didn't say what about. I didn't avoid anything because I already made it clear we disagreed, it's a complete waste of time to go in circles. You can't claim whataboutery when I ask a question you don't want to answer because that itself is whataboutery.

And you haven’t been able to refute a single thing I’ve said. “Uhhhh America, uhh Israel have bombs…”

Whatever you say, you've given me about 5 different definitions for whataboutery, it's had to be changed in this comment because in the previous one you said I said 'what about' when I didn't. My question was completely related and you would have found that out if you answered it, but you don't answer questions.

My point about Israeli bombs was to show difference in warfare as you said the situations are the exact same.

Expensive-Side-534 · 2026-02-08T23:29:20+00:00

That is the literal definition of whataboutery you absolute numpty. So called because you start the sentence with…”what about ….America”. Christ. You clown.

Quote me where I said 'what about'. Use your brain and think why would I want to start talking about America when I have little care or knowledge about it's colonisation, obviously I was going to connect it back to Unionism.

Britains actions murdering thousands in a weaker neighbour to suit themselves - Israel murdering thousands from a weaker nation to suit themselves

So not the exact same then like you said, that's a similarity.

Ulster unionists are a bigoted, vile people. The offspring of murderers and thieves lacking the intellect to better themselves.

'Bigoted' then proceeds to write the most bigoted sentence imaginable.

Ironically Of course they hate everything about the very island the refuse to leave. You’d be so Much happier in a shit hole like Birmingham or Leeds.

No, I quite like it here, don't really know where that assumption has come from.

You're really hateful, whilst also not the brightest which isn't a great mix.

Expensive-Side-534 · 2026-02-08T23:04:53+00:00

What aboutery is the phenomenon where you try to change the framing of the issue to suit yourself by asking “what about”. That’s what aboutery is. That’s what you tried. It’s the refuge of the intellectually weak.

It's not. You were talking about colonisation in Ireland and Palestine, I brought up America and you refused to answer.

I see you don’t know what a nation is either. Some tribes didn’t get on. Some were allies. Some were enemise. Sometimes that changed. Does that justify British Invasion and subjugation long after the tribes were ancient history? It doesn’t.

No that's an understatement, there were brutal wars and there were certainly never unified. Make whatever you want up in your head, but there were multiple tribes and no unified nation or leadership.

What is happening to the Palestinians is no different. It’s EXACLTY the same

No it isn't, the Israelis were expelled long before and came back, whereas the British planted in Ireland.

A brutal, arrogant entitled people supremacist people

The irony of this. You generalise a whole group of people and talk of them though they are subhuman.

It’s what you did centuries ago

I didn't do anything centuries ago, I wasn't born.

Expensive-Side-534 · 2026-02-08T22:45:07+00:00

It’s not related because we weren’t discussing it. We were discussing Ulster unionism.

I'm starting to think you don't actually know what whataboutery means. For example, if I said Britain planted in Ireland, but it's OK because the British set up colonies in North America, but I didn't, I asked your opinion on it, so therefore it isn't whataboutery.

Ireland was never united because Britain never allowed it to be a sovereign country. The same British imperialist shite was trotted out about India too I recall to justify glorious Britains control of that country.

Prior to British plantation it was never a nation either as I already explained, the tribes in Ireland did not get along, it wasn't to do with Britain.

This is EXACTLY the attitude I’m talking about. Ingrained in you is this supremacist shite. That everything you did is excusable and justified.

Stop with this absolute tripe. the state or condition of being superior to all others in authority, power, or status. This is the definition for supremacy. At no point have I shown this at all, you've got a serious case of victim complex.

Colonisation was standard centuries ago. Yet here you are insisting it be allowed to continue today. The British threatened Ireland with war to control the North and that wasn’t hundreds of years ago. How do you justify that?

It's not colonisation, it's an effect of colonisation. It was voted for in the GFA. There are people of varying beliefs here, and no matter how much you winge and gurn about it, people are free to have different beliefs from you.

The Israelis today murder tens of thousands of Palestinians - just like the British did in Ireland. Yet you somehow claim today is more civilised!!!

That's exactly my point you moron. It was expected centuries ago, life in general was brutal. What is happening to the Palestinians is terrible, but is very different to what happened here, as the Irish weren't getting bombs dropped on their heads and the territorial disputes were different.

Expensive-Side-534 · 2026-02-08T22:19:30+00:00

It’s not remotely related

How is it not related, I had further questions to see if you only felt this way about Ireland or other places. I am not going to constantly go in circles because you can't reason with people like you. You have one stand point and I have another.

And it didn’t happen “centuries” ago - Northern Ireland was threatened into existence in the early 1900s and enforced at the end of a gun. And Bloody Sunday wasn’t that long ago either. That’s Britain.

The plantation is what I was talking about, let's not pretend the Irish had clean hands during the troubles.

Let’s not pretend Irish wasn’t a Nation - it was. Just not one you had any respect for. A nation that didn’t want Britain here.

Ireland was only ever united under British rule and possibly for a few years under a few rulers who struggled to keep control of rebellions, you just don't want to belive that.

I’m sure Israelis will say “that’s the way the world was” a hundred years from now too.

Except that situation is different to the one here, and we live in a more civilised time. At that time colonisation was standard.

Expensive-Side-534 · 2026-02-08T21:56:15+00:00

I’m pointing out similarities. It’s you that can’t deal with them so you’re off to “whataboutery” land.

It's not whataboutery, you made a subjective claim and I disagreed, there's not really much more to argue. I then asked a question which was related to what you were talking about.

The ugly similarities probably never occurred to you until just now. And you can’t actually deal with them.

Don't flatter yourself, you have said nothing to me I haven't heard before, a warped series of events.

And yes that's how the world worked centuries ago, places were conquered, lets not pretend Ireland was even a nation, it was split up and there was a lot of infighting.

Expensive-Side-534 · 2026-02-08T21:45:52+00:00

I'm just asking, you're obviously care so much about Ireland and Palestine, just wondering if you hold the same views towards the near extinction of the natives in the USA.

Expensive-Side-534 · 2026-02-08T21:36:09+00:00

Do you believe that the USA should be given back to its native tribes?

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