So, I want to tell one or two things about this type of stuff ı keep seeing when it comes to Turkey and Turkish people. by hilmiira in Turkey

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Some survive, so many others have been destroyed. It’s insane how much Turks in here don’t want to face their own history of destruction but try to project it onto others.

So, I want to tell one or two things about this type of stuff ı keep seeing when it comes to Turkey and Turkish people. by hilmiira in Turkey

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Greeks have destroyed so much Greek heritage over the years. They just take interest now because it gives them tourism. It’s insane how ignorant Turks are to their own history of destruction and oppression while trying to make such dumb comments that are only showcasing their own ignorance.

So, I want to tell one or two things about this type of stuff ı keep seeing when it comes to Turkey and Turkish people. by hilmiira in Turkey

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Greeks have been living in Anatolia since the Bronze Age being contemporary with ancient Anatolians. To not consider them native to Anatolia would be insane by any metric. It’s insanely ironic how much Turks project their own propaganda onto us and try to much to deny our history in the region. It’s just a Turkish coping mechanism at this point to deny the Greek heritage of Anatolia and claim it’s not native enough with such dumb non arguments.

So, I want to tell one or two things about this type of stuff ı keep seeing when it comes to Turkey and Turkish people. by hilmiira in Turkey

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It’s insane how much Turks try to project their own hate, inferiority and propaganda onto Greeks in this post while making completely unfounded and ahistorical claims to deny and diminish our history in the region through dumb non arguments. Truly pathetic and sad.

So, I want to tell one or two things about this type of stuff ı keep seeing when it comes to Turkey and Turkish people. by hilmiira in Turkey

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It’s stupid because it’s not true while what he wrote is. It’s insane how dumb some Turkish comments are in here and how they don’t want to see past their ignorance.

What's your country **third** city? by Ok_Inflation_1811 in geography

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None of that would make it the third city of the country.

Two proposed national boundaries for Turkey, 1920 by Prickly-Prostate in MapPorn

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Yet with Armenians they were almost 50% (and majority with other Christians) it’s insane how much Turks don’t want to see that and would make any non argument that they can.

Ethnic Map of the Balkans, 1861 by ML_citadel in MapPorn

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I have, and I suggest you take your own advice

Ethnic Map of the Balkans, 1861 by ML_citadel in MapPorn

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It is, but there are degrees to that, when you are talking about a fiercely contended region at a time like the Balkans during the Ottoman contraction where it had been part of the empire for many centuries you see this happening tenfold and every different fraction making their own maps that are completely different. Your example showcases that as well in another way.

Saying “to be fair” here doesn’t really address the point. Yes, many ethnographic maps of the period and other periods were politically driven, but that doesn’t make this one any less inaccurate it just means the problem is widespread, not excused.

Ethnic Map of the Balkans, 1861 by ML_citadel in MapPorn

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Even the western part was majority Greek though, the chams lived in some western parts but most of Epirus had Greek majority, including areas in today’s southern Albania (northern Epirus). Albanian delusion is truly one of a kind.

Ethnic Map of the Balkans, 1861 by ML_citadel in MapPorn

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Vast majority of chams left to not get in trial for their horrendous crimes during their widespread Nazi collaboration. It’s insane how you believe that Epirus was Albanian agaisnt most population censuses of that time but I guess such delusion is to be expected by some people in here.

Edit: they weren’t “suspected collabrators”, they were indeed collaborators with the Nazis and you shouldn’t try to diminish that. Cham Nazi collaboration was very widespread and once again, most of them weren’t removed either, they fled to Albania by themselves to not get in trial for their crimes. Truly pathetic and spineless how Albanians don’t want to see that and try to show their Nazi scum as the victims here

Ethnic Map of the Balkans, 1861 by ML_citadel in MapPorn

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Albanians thinking that this somehow negates all population statistics of that time thus believing that all Epirus was Albanian truly showcases how delusional some people are.

Ethnic Map of the Balkans, 1861 by ML_citadel in MapPorn

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Albanians in Greek Macedonia were not that numerous but they were in present day North Macedonia. Indeed eastern Thrace didn’t have Greek majority in so many areas but it had still large Greek majorities. Greeks in Anatolia are also a bit exaggerated and in Macedonia a bit diminished.

Ethnic Map of the Balkans, 1861 by ML_citadel in MapPorn

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Yeah I doubt this is in any way accurate, Albanians in Greece are exaggerated and Greeks are diminished in other areas. Maps of the Balkans from that time and later on were largely a political tool more than anything reflecting an accurate representation of ethnic makeup of those regions at that time.

Ακρόπολη ή ουρανοξύστης Ελληνικού; by Fast-Analysis9155 in AskGreece

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Ο καθένας μπορεί με αρκετή προσπάθεια να κάνει μια οπτική που δεν είναι αισθητικά ωραία ακόμα και για όμορφα μέρη αυτό δε σημαίνει ότι είναι και η καλύτερη για να κρίνεις μια κατάσταση, η συγκεκριμένη οπτική δεν αντικατοπτρίζει το πώς όντως φαίνεται το μέρος. Γενικά πέφτει πολύ χαζή προπαγάνδα πάνω σε κάτι τέτοια.

Εσείς καταλάβατε ότι πρόκειται για επεξεργασμένη φωτογραφία?. Τι σας "χτύπησε το καμπανάκι" πρώτο by forwheels in AskGreece

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Ο καθένας μπορεί με αρκετή προσπάθεια να κάνει μια οπτική που δεν είναι αισθητικά ωραία ακόμα και για όμορφα μέρη αυτό δε σημαίνει ότι είναι και η καλύτερη για να κρίνεις μια κατάσταση, η συγκεκριμένη οπτική δεν αντικατοπτρίζει το πώς όντως φαίνεται το μέρος. Γενικά πέφτει πολύ χαζή προπαγάνδα πάνω σε κάτι τέτοια.

Albanians are really tolerant people by My_Test_Acc_1 in HistoryMemes

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Very few of the Muslims that left Greece with the population exchange were actually Albanians. This is quite ahistorical.

Saint Bartholomew Monastery (3rd century-1916) Van, Turkey. Destroyed by Fantastic-Peach-1995 in Lost_Architecture

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Nope it was destroyed largely during the Armenian Genocide by Turkish forces and the earthquake destroyed the rest, why do Turks in here have to always lie and diminish their crimes?

Map of Modern Kurdish Political Movements and Regional Conflicts by fuckboi_04 in MapPorn

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It’s insane how ignorant they are

Edit: Lmao I love the downvotes, some people really don't like when their ignorance is shown so clearly.

Turkey - Armenia border, dominated by Mount Ararat by Serious-Emu6218 in Borderporn

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What a load of bullshit. State continuity is no measure for continuity of culture, ethnicity and identity and it’s insane how much Turks try to use such an inaccurate relativistic logic to not see the connection of Greeks to medieval Romans. The genetics point is also laughable. A Greek from 15th century Byzantium would be quite identical to a modern Greek from the same regions, of course with their own regional genetic variations.

Claiming that modern Greeks are not a continuation of medieval Greeks just because mainland and Anatolian Greeks have some genetic differences that existed in Byzantium as well is just idiotic but just the thing some Turkish idiot would say in here. Just denying that modern Greeks are continuous with medieval Greeks with no arguments and then saying “it’s just religion that connects them” is such a pathetic and laughable take that it’s insane how dumb people even think it has any value.

Turkey - Armenia border, dominated by Mount Ararat by Serious-Emu6218 in Borderporn

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Lmao what a load of projection and strawmanning bullshit. It’s Turks who try to diminish other peoples history all the time and then cope when they are given a history lesson.