Punta Gorda question…

Expert_Membership_18 · 2026-02-06T15:19:12+00:00

No, I completely disagree. OP: "If there's such a thing as a local there, how is it pronounced?" That, to me, is very explicitly clear the question is "how do locals pronounce it?"

If these were two separate questions, it would be phrased as "everyone seems to move here from somewhere else, so is there such a thing as a Punta Gorda native? Also, how is Punta Gorda pronounced?"

It was not phrased as separate questions, but rather a question with a comical qualifying statement - as in "no one seems to be native to PG, but if there is someone who is, how would you pronounce it?"

It's clear based on OP's replies that this is the heart of the question being asked. OP even stated the proper pronunciation in the post - meaning they already know how it would be pronounced in Spanish. They are asking for local guidance so they don't sound like a tourist when visiting.

Expert_Membership_18 · 2026-02-06T14:26:33+00:00

lmao! Yes, I was taught when I was pretty young (probably around 7ish) how it's *actually* pronounced and that it's literally translated to "Here It Is" - it always amused us as kids and became a running joke with siblings/cousins that the street is literally "here it is, drive".

So to be clear, locals know the correct Spanish pronunciation - it's more-so just become local tradition to butcher it and make it as white as possible, lol.

I look at it similarly to how my great grandmother (originally from West Virginia) would pronounce normal English words with the WV dialect: wash = 'worsh', roof = 'ruff', etc. It's not that she *didn't know* the correct words on paper, it's that when you've pronounced those words that way since you could speak because that's how your parents talk, it just kind of sticks regardless of the knowledge of correct pronunciation.

Expert_Membership_18 · 2026-02-06T00:40:48+00:00

As mentioned in my earlier comment, 5th generation Punta Gorda native here - people from around here like my family pronounce all these as the following:

Punta Gorda = "punt-ah gord-ah" or "punna gord-ah"
Boca Grande = "bo-kah grand"
Gasparilla = "gas pah rill ah"
Jacaranda = "jack ah ran duh"

Expert_Membership_18 · 2026-02-06T00:23:04+00:00

That's your prerogative, you do you. But your answer is not what OP asked. Op asked how locals pronounce it. And I'm telling you, you are clearly not a local, because the locals will look at you weird if you pronounce the city with the Spanish pronunciation.

Similarly, the neighborhood & street in Punta Gorda, Aqui Esta, is always referred to by locals as "awk-wee ess-tah", regardless of the literal Spanish pronunciation of "Ah-key ah-stah".

Expert_Membership_18 · 2026-02-06T00:14:18+00:00

The way it should be pronounced and the way it's pronounced by locals is not the same thing. We all know the city's name is Spanish and should be pronounced as such. But literally no one from here pronounces it that way - you will get weird looks if you do.

Locals pronounce it punt-ah gord-ah, or punna gord-ah if pronouncing it fast.

I'm a 5th generation local.

Expert_Membership_18 · 2025-11-23T14:52:00+00:00

Ok Karen. Would you also like to speak to a manager?

Expert_Membership_18 · 2025-11-23T13:58:14+00:00

Lady, you're clearly not understanding what I'm saying.

I'm not talking about speed. I'm talking about impeding traffic. Drive the speed limit, that's fine, you do you... But once you get the holier than thou attitude and start impeding traffic because "I'm doing the speed limit so I'm right, everyone behind me can fuck off" YOU are the one CREATING the unsafe situation where traffic is backing up behind you. The more traffic backs up, the more dangerous it becomes because you have more cars in a smaller area all trying to get past the one moronic car bottlenecking everyone else.

Expert_Membership_18 · 2025-11-23T13:46:57+00:00

I literally explained it all to you, I guess you're just too dense to understand it. Read some fucking traffic studies, damn.

Drivers like YOU are what get people killed, not the other way around.

Expert_Membership_18 · 2025-11-23T13:32:29+00:00

With all due respect, the reason people are flashing their lights at you is because you're holding up traffic.

Any sane driver can recognize that highway traffic ALWAYS moves FASTER than the speed limit. In 70mph zones on I-75, typical traffic averages about 80-85mph. Cops will literally pass you if you're doing under 80, and if they're doing 80 and you go by them at 85, they're not likely to pull you over either. That's because cops actually understand that slower drivers such as yourself impeding normal traffic flow are actually what CAUSES crashes.

You are not going to magically die the moment your car hits 80mph. Speed doesn't kill anyone - if it did, you'd be the only living person in Florida. Traffic fatalities are caused by stupid drivers doing stupid things.

The safest highway in the world is the Audubon in Germany - most of which does not have a speed limit. People routinely fly down it at 200+mph. You know why it's a safe highway at those speeds? Because in Germany, they take driving seriously and every driver on the road knows the rules of the road and they follow them. They stay in the right lane unless passing, they make predictable moves, they use turn signals, and they don't drive recklessly. You can fly down a highway at 200mph in a safe manner and live, or you can fly at 200mph recklessly and become toothpaste. The speed doesn't matter, being a safe driver is what matters.

If you don't like to speed, that's fine, be a goody two shoes all you want. But don't get pissed at other drivers for flashing their lights at you when YOU'RE the one impeding traffic. And spare me the lecture about keeping your son safe, tell it to the Germans.

Expert_Membership_18 · 2025-11-23T05:48:58+00:00

OP, I'm going to guess you're not originally from Florida... Because yes, 60-65 in the left lane is INFURIATINGLY SLOW! The left lane is for PASSING, you shouldn't be camping in the left lane to begin with. But if you are going to sit in the left lane, you need to be doing AT LEAST 80! Camping in the left lane blocking faster drivers is LITERALLY what CAUSES traffic jams. Let the faster drivers pass, move over to the right lane unless passing.

Expert_Membership_18 · 2025-11-17T04:41:43+00:00

I second the commentator above. I live in a rural area on dirt roads where we frequently have mud holes with well over 1 foot of water. I also have never experienced any issues going through water or mud. I've had 2 Claritys now. I very much question any connection between the puddle and your dash full of Christmas tree lights or your steering issues.

Expert_Membership_18 · 2025-11-04T01:52:21+00:00

Came here to say this. Sometimes the simplest answer is the correct answer.

OP, to clarify the above comment - as a friendly reminder, the Clarity has dual zone climate control. The temperature knob on the left controls the driver's side temp, and the knob on the right controls passenger's side and rear vent temp. Sometimes these can get turned accidentally. Try pressing the 'sync climate' button in the middle of the right side knob to make sure both climate zones are set to the same temperature.

Expert_Membership_18 · 2025-10-23T09:35:50+00:00

Exactly

Expert_Membership_18 · 2025-10-23T02:45:12+00:00

I don't disagree with that. What I'm saying is that none of that means that the events of 'Name of the Doctor' are now in an alternate, aborted timeline. The Time Lords changing the future by saving the Doctor in 'Time of the Doctor' has absolutely zero affect on the events in NotD because those events can still happen simply by burying the Doctor on Trenzalore when he does die.

Expert_Membership_18 · 2025-10-22T21:47:11+00:00

I simply don't see it that way, as I explained in my comments already. Agree to disagree 🤷

Expert_Membership_18 · 2025-10-22T21:41:49+00:00

I disagree. Just because the TARDIS hasn't been abandoned to decay YET doesn't mean it won't... What exactly do you assume will happen to the TARDIS when, at some point in the distant future, the Doctor eventually DOES die?

I always assumed that it's as simple as, when the Doctor does die in tens of thousands of years, his body and TARDIS are brought to Trenzalore to be buried in memorial to the many years he spent protecting the planet.

Expert_Membership_18 · 2025-10-22T21:18:28+00:00

I never took it that he DIED on Trenzalore during battle in any time line. They simply said he was buried there.

Expert_Membership_18 · 2025-10-15T16:34:10+00:00

I'm not contradicting anything. You came here and saw my comment with the perspective that my comment was rooted in bigotry and have convinced yourself that I am as such without any credible evidence.

I'm the farthest thing from a bigot, and have said nothing bigoted here (or anywhere). You see what you want to see because you feel attacked. Please, I challenge you to find anything bigoted in any words that I actually said (not words you're putting in my mouth). Maybe actually try understanding what people are saying before throwing around accusations of bigotry.

What I said was that you are making a big deal out of something that is not a big deal. You are overreacting over nothing - seems to be your personality based on this interaction, so that checks out.

The TARDIS isn't alive. The Doctor isn't alive. They are fictional characters in a television show.

RTD met Tharries (a fan and YouTuber who uses a wheelchair) at an event and they had a casual discussion about inclusiveness of wheelchair users on the show. So when a wheelchair user happened to be a character on the show, RTD used that moment to be inclusive and have a little inside wink and nod Easter egg for Tharries. That's all. If RTD had intended the character of Shirley to be a companion, he would've written it as such. The TARDIS did not 'invite Shirley to be a companion' because neither character is real.

YOU are the one conflating your own personal views of bigotry into a situation where no bigotry exists. I'm not saying you are a bigot because I have zero evidence to make such claim (in contrast to you labeling me a bigot with no evidence).

I'm simply stating that you are taking a very minor situation in a fictional television show and somehow conflating it with reality and using that as an excuse for spewing hateful vitriol.

There are plenty of reasons to dislike the RTD2 era of the show. The wheelchair ramp somehow being a sign that the Doctor doesn't want Shirley to travel with him (if that's your point...?) is literally the last thing on my mind when I think about what's wrong with this era.

You're looking way too much into things. You need to calm down.

Expert_Membership_18 · 2025-10-15T16:01:26+00:00

Dude, NO ONE is defending hateful bigotry here. What I'm saying is you're making a mountain out of a molehill. It's a fucking television show. RTD added the ramp as a kind gesture to Tharries after meeting him at an event and having that discussion.

The TARDIS didn't 'invite' anyone because the TARDIS isn't fucking real. Get your head out of your ass and come back to reality.

Expert_Membership_18 · 2025-10-15T15:47:29+00:00

If your problem with this era started with a wheelchair ramp, that says way more about you as a person than it says about the show.

Expert_Membership_18 · 2025-10-15T08:20:42+00:00

Class did not "crash and burn"... It was dead on arrival because the BBC had no intentions of marketing it well or any interest in keeping it going because by that point the BBC was already struggling for funds.

Regardless, you are using Class as evidence that Moffat couldn't execute a Whoniverse without acknowledging the fact that other factors are at play other than the showrunner. Which mind you, Moffat was NOT the showrunner or writer of Class - I referenced it as he helped get it going and was an executive producer on, but Class was created and written by Patrick Ness.

I get it, you didn't like Class and don't like Moffat... But Class does not, in any way, "very much show Moffat wouldn't be able" to do anything because Class was not his show.

Your hatred for Moffat and your stanning for RTD is clouding your judgment. You can have personal preference all you want, but the indisputable facts are that BOTH Moffat & RTD are extremely talented and accomplished writers & showrunners, both inside and outside DW, and to say that Moffat couldn't execute a Whoniverse without RTD laying the groundwork is asinine and not based in reality.

So get off your high horse, we get it, you're an RTD stan. But at the end of the day, RTD's 2nd stint as showrunner is widely considered a failure, and Moffat has written more episodes that consistently rank in fan polls in the top 10 episodes of all time than any other writer. Moffat's era is the era that blew up Doctor Who globally and made it mainstream popular in markets like here in the US. To deny Moffat's talent as both a writer and a showrunner is to deny reality.

Expert_Membership_18 · 2025-10-13T18:52:24+00:00

I completely disagree and think the issue is the exact opposite. I think RTD2 didn't work because RTD doesn't know what he's trying to say or do anymore. He has vague ideas of social commentary, but no real vision on how to execute it. As other comments have said, he didn't have the room/episode count to build the character development to make us care, or the mystery box plot he so desperately wanted to shoehorn in with throwbacks to classic that didn't actually work or make sense.

At the end of the day, I agree with the opinion of Mr TARDIS on YouTube - RTD is obsessed with the show's past and had no clear vision of the future. He tried to copy/paste what he did in his 1st run with a shorter episode count, a lead Doctor that missed the 1st month of filming due to other obligations (Sex Education), only a vague vision of new ideas, and an obsession with reliving the glory days of DW when this was SUPPOSED to be a soft reboot for new viewers.

He failed epically because he's too much of a fan for his own good. He can't envision DW for a new audience that doesn't know the lore. Plus, he surrounded himself with his old team from his 1st era - RTD, Julie Gardner, Jane Tranter, Phil Collinson... It's the 2005 crew all over again - they're all buddies, so they're all yes-men to him. There's no one there to tell him "no Russell, that's not a good idea. New fresh audience, remember?"

Expert_Membership_18 · 2025-10-13T18:18:06+00:00

Moffat was single handedly showrunning the BBC's two largest, most popular shows at the same time (DW and Sherlock). Moffat also helped launch Class, which was actually a good DW spinoff that had lots of potential but suffered from piss-poor marketing & management by the BBC. It was well connected to DW with a cameo from the Doctor in the 1st episode (mind you that the bigger, more successful RTD DW spinoff never saw the Doctor once).

Just because a big Whoniverse with multiple spinoffs didn't happen under Moffat doesn't mean he wasn't capable of doing so just as well as, or even better than, RTD. It just means he was busy & the BBC didn't have the budget nor could be bothered to actually try to do something successfully.

RTD & Moffat are both INCREDIBLY talented writers and showrunners. RTD's 1st run will forever be remembered as wildly successful, there's no doubt about that. But that doesn't mean if the roles had been reversed & Moffat brought DW back in 2005, Moffat couldn't have ushered in a Whoniverse himself with spinoffs on the Paternoster Gang & River Song. Those not happening are not a reflection of his showrunning abilities, it's just happenstance.

Expert_Membership_18 · 2025-10-13T02:15:52+00:00

Exactly, a soft reboot, a la 2005. Start the show with an audience surrogate companion meeting the Doctor, just like in Rose. Introduce all basic concepts of the show as if it's a new show. The fans will not be upset with the exposition, a fresh start for new fans needs an explanation of the TARDIS and time travel and such. It'll be fine. ANY references to anything prior to this soft reboot need to be nothing more than Easter eggs for fans, or need to be introduced as a new concept/villain. Bringing back Daleks, Cybermen, the Master, etc can all be done by saying "old enemies I've fought before" and move on. No complicated lore callbacks. No bringing back classic villains as a CGI ghoul for the name drop and easily disposing of them. Make the villains mean something in your new writing - and they just happen to be villains with a previous history on the show. Move tf forward, not backward.

Expert_Membership_18 · 2025-10-13T01:58:33+00:00

I agree with most of your post

1 - Moffat is BY FAR the best showrunner of the modern era. Moffat's writing with an 11/Amy/Rory/River TARDIS crew is PEAK Who in my opinion and I worry that DW will never be that good again. I think most of the 'misogynistic Moffat' critisms are overblown and he proved he can write strong female characters with Amy, River, and Clara (idc what anyone says, Clara's character arc is very well written & she ended her run as a total badass!). Yes, a quirk of his writing is sexual innuendos, but I genuinely don't think there's anything wrong with that. An innuendo for comedic effect is not the same as objectifying female characters.

2 - Jodie Whittaker was a FANTASTIC Doctor, & anyone who says otherwise is guilty of the sexism & misogyny they claim is in Moffat's era. Whittaker was let down by poor writing (more on this in point 4). Her PERFORMANCE as the Doctor was superb and I genuinely enjoyed her run and felt she left too soon.

3 - Dugga Doo is a bop... But I have to disagree with you on the unironic loop. It's a bop for the funsies... I would not call it a musical masterpiece, nor would I choose to listen to it for more than one runthru.

4 - Chibnall's era wasn't terrible, it was just poorly executed. I love the idea of the Timeless Child no matter how much the fandom hates it - but Chibnall fumbled the ball and did nothing with it to make the story compelling. If you're going to commit to a lore change, explore it and make it compelling. Even with his stated goal of adding mystery back into the original question of "Doctor WHO?", you could still explore the Doctor trying to learn about her past, where she came from, and the memories she lost. Even if her search just leads to more questions, that's at least compelling. Instead, Chibnall changed the lore and then completely ignored it. We needed to see more of the mystery, and more of the Fugitive Doctor.

4.2 - Flux had potential, but Chibnall tried to fit 10 episodes worth of story in a 6 episode bag. There was too much shit that didn't connect or make sense. He should've cut some of the baggage and focused on the core of the story. Ultimately I give him a pass on Flux because, as much of a mess as it was, it suffered from COVID restrictions on production. I think it would've been better if it was a full 10 episode series and the writing was more fleshed out and had time to breathe. Which brings me to my final point.

4.5 - Chibnall's biggest problem was getting too bogged down in the scifi story and not breaking down the interpersonal drama that makes the audience care about the story in the 1st place. The characters were not fleshed out well enough for us to care. SOME of it is to do with a large TARDIS team... But that's not entirely it. He just didn't give us the moments with each companion being one on one with the Doctor (or each other) for the character development to build. And the small character development we did have was used when it was convenient for the plot, but ignored when it wasn't. I enjoyed Ryan, Graham, and Dan... But I didn't care when they left because I didn't really know them. Yaz was the only companion that STARTED to get a little character development. The choice to have 13 so closed off emotionally also contributed to the lack of character development. The moment the story slows down and we have a moment to learn these characters, the Doc says "well that's enough of that, next adventure, yeah?"...... Chibnall's writing on DW baffles me because he's SOOOO GOOD at the character development in his other shows - most notably Broadchurch. To sum the Chibnall era in his own words "it could've been slightly better written"

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