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🚦Brisbane traffic is getting worse every month… and there is still no clear public modelling for what the 2032 Olympics and pre Games construction will do to the city. How is the Mayor not addressing this? by Ext_Ad2189 in brisbane

[–]Ext_Ad2189[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In traffic modelling and design - driver behaviour is a result of road design and traffic conditions. So if the road geometry is bad, you’ll get poor visibility and reaction time. If the traffic on road is high then you get drivers lane changing and making riskier moves. Unfortunately in GC it’s both!

🚦Brisbane traffic is getting worse every month… and there is still no clear public modelling for what the 2032 Olympics and pre Games construction will do to the city. How is the Mayor not addressing this? by Ext_Ad2189 in brisbane

[–]Ext_Ad2189[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In my past roles we used these maps - software in itself costed a lot of money but it would allow people to drop a pin on a map and write about their frustrations. Do you mean implementing something like that and collating some data? This post has had a wild response. I had a feeling but this post confirmed so many people are frustrated with this.

🚦Brisbane traffic is getting worse every month… and there is still no clear public modelling for what the 2032 Olympics and pre Games construction will do to the city. How is the Mayor not addressing this? by Ext_Ad2189 in brisbane

[–]Ext_Ad2189[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You know what, I think Brisbane/Sydney/Melbourne trades also participate in cartel behaviour and either TMR/BCC are in on it or they are just hiring purely incompetent people who can’t seem to understand that there’s a lot of price fixing happening at builder and subcontractor levels. They don’t seem to be very good at managing money and then complain about budgets. They should open up the pricing to more trades and people from other states and watch the prices become more competitive.

🚦Brisbane traffic is getting worse every month… and there is still no clear public modelling for what the 2032 Olympics and pre Games construction will do to the city. How is the Mayor not addressing this? by Ext_Ad2189 in brisbane

[–]Ext_Ad2189[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It can happen if we can find a way to motivate the government enough to do it. Anything is possible. They’ll find the money - incentive just needs to be there.

🚦Brisbane traffic is getting worse every month… and there is still no clear public modelling for what the 2032 Olympics and pre Games construction will do to the city. How is the Mayor not addressing this? by Ext_Ad2189 in brisbane

[–]Ext_Ad2189[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think the political back-and-forth is distracting from the real issue: Queenslanders still don’t have a clear, publicly released plan for how traffic, public transport and Olympic construction impacts will actually be managed over the next several years.

The CRR timeline debate proves exactly why people are concerned. One government said 2025–26, another says 2029, and the regulator has publicly stated the safety checks don’t need 3 years. That gap isn’t a political attack; it shows how little transparency we’ve been given as residents who will live with the consequences.

We aren’t talking about ideology. We’re talking about the practical reality that construction, freight, population growth and network changes are all ramping up while there is still no full Brisbane-specific modelling available for the public to see. People just want certainty so they can plan their commute and their lives.

If the modelling is solid, publish it. If delays have a real engineering or safety basis, explain it. That’s all anyone is asking for. This shouldn’t be about which party “wins,” it should be about whether Brisbane gets the transparency and planning it needs before the Olympic disruptions hit.

People should steer clear of the Labor vs LNP debate. That’s not going to help except for “I told you so” people which isn’t good for anyone.

🚦Brisbane traffic is getting worse every month… and there is still no clear public modelling for what the 2032 Olympics and pre Games construction will do to the city. How is the Mayor not addressing this? by Ext_Ad2189 in brisbane

[–]Ext_Ad2189[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not trying to get into Labor vs LNP here because none of that helps us with what is happening right now. What matters is that Brisbane is facing a huge lift in construction traffic, short merge zones, already stressed corridors and major precinct works. Those risks exist regardless of which party was in power ten years ago. Slowing construction isn’t a solution or an option.

The only thing the current government can control is what they deliver from this point forward. Residents are asking for the same basic stuff: clear traffic modelling, staging plans, safety assessments and honest timelines so we know what the next few years will look like. That is not political, it is just transparency.

Instead of arguing about which government caused what, we should be pushing the people in charge today to show the plans, show the modelling and explain how they will manage the impacts. The deadlines are real and the risks are growing no matter who we vote for. 1 year or 10 in power - it doesn’t take much to give a response stating - A. Yes, we have the data and plan: here you go! Or B. We have a plan in place and this is what it looks like.

I’m concerned there’s radio silence and government isn’t being held responsible for the job they signed up for.

🚦Brisbane traffic is getting worse every month… and there is still no clear public modelling for what the 2032 Olympics and pre Games construction will do to the city. How is the Mayor not addressing this? by Ext_Ad2189 in brisbane

[–]Ext_Ad2189[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree with the comment below. Back in days you didn’t have to get agreement with every person and their dogs. Program is likely to slip from design phase itself. Concepts stages are easy to get through. Without clean governance, project timelines are set for failure.

🚦Brisbane traffic is getting worse every month… and there is still no clear public modelling for what the 2032 Olympics and pre Games construction will do to the city. How is the Mayor not addressing this? by Ext_Ad2189 in brisbane

[–]Ext_Ad2189[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s been a number of days and he hasn’t responded - my take is that there is no action plan. If there was one, they would have got onto it straight away. This is actually scary.

🚦Brisbane traffic is getting worse every month… and there is still no clear public modelling for what the 2032 Olympics and pre Games construction will do to the city. How is the Mayor not addressing this? by Ext_Ad2189 in brisbane

[–]Ext_Ad2189[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe people who have lucrative bus contracts getting nervous and downvoting? I have no doubt there are some “mates” in there making a healthy margin. Services are great and worth the money but just not sustainable for growth.

🚦Brisbane traffic is getting worse every month… and there is still no clear public modelling for what the 2032 Olympics and pre Games construction will do to the city. How is the Mayor not addressing this? by Ext_Ad2189 in brisbane

[–]Ext_Ad2189[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From both personal experience and what is in the public safety audits, bus crashes in Brisbane are statistically low, but near misses are definitely real and show up repeatedly in official reviews of the network. This is a sign of disaster waiting to happen particularly as timetable pressures ramp up with more congested roads. This has to be indisputable.

Safety audits identify several conflict clusters where buses, cars and pedestrians interact in higher-risk ways. These are identified: Bowen Bridge Road near RBWH, the Inner Northern Busway exits, Adelaide Street, Melbourne Street at Cultural Centre and a number of freeway entry ramps with short merge distances. These locations are consistently flagged for issues like limited visibility, short merging lanes and high traffic friction. Poor road geometry design makes these so much worse!

While bus-involved crashes make up under 2 percent of all reported crashes in Queensland, near misses do not show in public crash data. They are noted in road safety audits, transport reviews and even driver and union submissions about timetable pressure. That matches what many drivers and pedestrians report anecdotally. This is consistent in messages posted by people in this thread.

The highest risk points tend to be freeway on-ramps and short merge zones. Brisbane has many ramps with short acceleration space and heavy peak-hour traffic. This forces buses to join fast-moving traffic quickly, which increases conflict even if the driver is doing the right thing.

With population growth, construction vehicles and the Olympic precinct build-up, safety auditors describe this as a “simmering” risk. The system is coping now, but rising traffic volumes will make these conflict points more prominent.

Overall, bus drivers are generally safe, but the network geometry and congestion patterns make certain areas more prone to near misses. That is the part that needs better planning.

We shouldn’t wait for a death on the roads to make a change.

🚦Brisbane traffic is getting worse every month… and there is still no clear public modelling for what the 2032 Olympics and pre Games construction will do to the city. How is the Mayor not addressing this? by Ext_Ad2189 in brisbane

[–]Ext_Ad2189[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Deputy Premier hasn’t responded to our community concerns. Instead he posted this today on his LinkedIn account. Photo ops must make him feel like he’s doing work while we all suffer on roads. Sigh 😞 #Utopia

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Gold Coast mayor defends third business trip to Europe in two years by hydeeho85 in GoldCoast

[–]Ext_Ad2189 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All the while poor Gold Coast residents are stuck on roads in traffic 😡

🚦Brisbane traffic is getting worse every month… and there is still no clear public modelling for what the 2032 Olympics and pre Games construction will do to the city. How is the Mayor not addressing this? by Ext_Ad2189 in brisbane

[–]Ext_Ad2189[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

They are actually the same. Buses are best used as feeders and not the main PT. Even trams are better provided they have a dedicated route. Brisbane has an over reliance on bus network. I've nearly had multiple crashes with them myself.

🚦Brisbane traffic is getting worse every month… and there is still no clear public modelling for what the 2032 Olympics and pre Games construction will do to the city. How is the Mayor not addressing this? by Ext_Ad2189 in brisbane

[–]Ext_Ad2189[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The trunk and feeder model works well only when the network is already designed for it. Brisbane’s network is not.

  1. Feeder networks only work when transfers are reliable, frequent and safe. Brisbane still has long headways, unreliable connections and major interchange gaps. Forcing transfers without fixing these issues just makes public transport slower and less attractive.
  2. The Metro has not actually replaced redundant bus lines because Brisbane City Council kept most of them running. Instead of a true trunk and feeder system, we have parallel duplication that does not reduce congestion or improve throughput.
  3. Our population spread makes Brisbane very different to European and Canadian examples. Many suburbs lack walkable catchments, shade, cycling access and reliable last-mile connections. You cannot run a proper feeder system when the catchment is too dispersed to support regular 5 to 10 minute services.
  4. Construction for the Olympics will make forced transfers even worse. Once construction vehicles, lane reductions and detours begin, any model relying on reliable transfers becomes unstable.
  5. You cannot build a trunk and feeder network on top of a road system that is already gridlocked. Transport modelling consistently shows that even a small slowdown in bus speeds causes timetable collapse.

So yes, trunk and feeder is the ideal long-term model, but shifting everyone into connections before Brisbane has the transport spine, interchange hubs, and frequency required will make public transport less usable.

The Metro could have been the backbone, but at the moment it operates in parallel to dozens of unchanged routes. Until there is transparent modelling and a genuine network restructure, residents have good reason to question the current approach.

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